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Date Posted: 12:13:53 09/01/05 Thu
Author: kashi - 27 Jul 2005
Subject: Re: Khechari Mudra
In reply to: Sundarar - 23 Jul 2005 's message, "Re: Khechari Mudra" on 12:11:26 09/01/05 Thu


Dear Sundar,
Well, to be honest, to me your posting was actually alittle mean and the things you said were implying things which are not true. It was a "mean spirit".
:-)

Why be this way? Think about it a bit.
One time you wrote me a letter and acted friendly and now see what you post?
I dont wish to be mean to you and so I will not!
I would rather talk.

I would like to explain to you some things about this matter because of all the confusion about this topic.
First, as for paramhansa Yogananda and the system taught by him and through his lofty representatives, the spiritual attainment of that Great being himself is the proof of the system he choose to teach.

Yoga Niketan is NOT a website dedicated to Paramahansa's teaching. Yoganandaji set up his own organization for that purpose. Our purpose is to preserve the traditional things and make them available for free reading by everyone. Because of overwhelming demand alot of it has been put in print now and is at Amazon.com and such. But not a single soul makes even one penny from any of it. It is done as sheer service.
Sir, mY own Master knew Yogananda personally and was very well loved by him.
See what Swami Satyananda says--

"In particular, the Yogoda students' residence so dear to Yoganandaji -
directed and run by Sri Sailesh Mohan Majumdar (now Swami
Shuddhananda)* and Sri Sailendra Bejoy Dasgupta, both of whom
were former students of the Ranchi school as well as Kriyavans -
eventually closed down as well. During the time that Yoganandaji was
in India [after returning from America], Sailendra Bejoy was with him
practically all day every day and attended to him in many different
ways. Swamiji had a great wish that he would take Sailendra Bejoy to
America. Even after [Yoganandaji] went back to America, he wrote to
me about this many times. But at that time, Sailendra Bejoy did not
particularly have much interest in that direction"

...........Swami Satyananda from YOgananda Sanga

But see, mY Dadu liked a very quiet life and He did not wish to leave his Guru Sriyukteshvar or (after Swami's passing) he did not like to leave his Kriyavans friends at that time such as Satyananda Maharaj and Shudhananda Maharaj and Ananda Mohan Lahiri and the others whom he was very close to. If you knew him you would understand his quite way.To know him was the greatest honor of my life. The fact that he loved me in return and even used to tell everyone I was "his son" is and honor beyond beleief. It is staggering


As for kriya, What Paramahansa taught on a large public scale, as you know, was not intended to be the original (which doesnt mean his system is not wonderfully effective. As we have said DOZENS OF TIMES in the past, his state of attainment says more than any words ever could. He taught for the modern world and it's needs!). My Master always refered to Yogananda as "god-man".
We have always said this same thing over and over concering the system of Paramahansa Yogananda.

I wonder if you are confusing us with others. I have seen a website (or two) which references the Yoga Niketan books and other books such as Sri Sanyal Mahasay's Gita and the author of the website has a huge discouse on kechari (much of it being startling and untrue material which are his own conclusions) along with pages of his writing about how Kriya cannot work without kechari and so one teacher or another is not good.
Yoga Niketan is a library. So people reference it even for their own conclusions. Poeple may reference books at the library here in Portland Maine, maybe medical books, but that does not mean the Portland Public Library holds their view.
Yoga Niketan is a LIbrary. We are constantly being mistaken for a teaching group (We are not) or something else. Yoga Niketan is run by a group--a legal corporation of several people.

But as for your other comment concerning the Kriya line of Panchanon Bhattacharya, I would like to tell you that I happen to have very close friends of the Panchanon line, one who even helps us with the work on the Yoga Niketan website. In fact, one of them is one of my CLOSEST most loved friends in the whole world who I am in frequent contact with because we are workign on a project together right now as I write this! He is a renunciate Swami and a Sanskrit scholar and he even used to have a Kriya website which I think many people read from but awhile back he had to take the website down because he was being tormented by a stalker. In fact that stalker is a supposed "Archarya" fROm Calcutta. We nicknamed him "The Tormentor". Yes. So Swami took down the website. He and I are dear friends and we are working on "the 1000 names of Mother Lalita", and so, because of him and a few others I have known in that line of Panchanon Baba (through the line of Sri Tiwari and also one other branch from West Bengal) I know for a fact that khechari mudra is required for stepping into the higher kriyas in that line. I know it for a fact.

Someone else has even spoken of that fact in a old post which is here--
http://www.voy.com/27671/3079.html
The man whom wrote that post in the link above says--

"Line of Bhattacharya requires it to this day."

See?
So there is some misunderstanding somewhere.


Please do not misunderstand me or my intentions but I humbly suggest you get a "second opinion" and go back and ask your teacher one more time to see if you have misunderstood and then I suggest you ask another representative of that line. Maybe you have not understood the teacher,or, it is even possible he is not who he claims to be (meaning, make sure he is really an authorized representative of the line) and I mean no disrespect in that. Look at the state of things these days. Please do not misunderstand me. I am not trying to critize or be disrespectful. It pays to be cautious these days. I think you know that.
You know, once a man came here on this green board who claimed to be a "Guru" and wanted to "make Gurus in every city".
Did you see that? MY friend Jason told me about it because he saw it here.
Yes! there was one man who came here who claimed to represnet a kriya line who came here some time ago to "make Gurus in every city" and he had a website where he loudly proclaimed that "Lahiri Mahasaya never taught the way to breathe that Yogananda had taught for Kriya". I saw that website and my friend Jason told me that person had come here to this very board as well. That is what the man said--"Lahiri mahasaya never taught tO breathE in Kriya the way Yogananda taught!" He proclaimed that,

Do you know the words of Lahiri Mahasaya on the matter? Look here and read--

"Via the lotus-stem-thread of the mouth, relinquish breath - meaning: make it Still; in this way - via the sushumna path, it becomes Still like this spontaneously. This is the indication of "kumbhak" - meaning: vayu moves in Stillness via the sushumna; that is the state of kumbhak..Lahiri Baba from Amritabindu Upanishad 13

See?

There are many other quotes I could show you on this very subject. So you see, look, maybe he is very great and our respects to him. But that statement was a mistake which he proclaimed.

Dear friend, did you know there is a reason for various breathings? Did you know that? It is not some random thing. It is between Guru and disciple.


So see?
Look--there are little variations. Some (variations)were taught by Lahiri Baba. THis is fact. So there are valid variation---yes indeed. Please read the Introduction to garland of Letters on the Yoganiketan site where an example is given. You know, we have actually talked about this in great detail other places but the truth is that these days some variations are due to people distorting the technique. These days many people have changed many small things.There are self proclaimed teachers and such. This is the sad truth in every line, be it that of Sriyukteshvar, or Panchanon Baba, or maybe any other. So you just have to double check sometimes and make sure.
You yourself have written in a post on this board recently and said--

"However there is no guarantee that if you get an acharya from one of those lines that they have not altered it."

There is another young man teaching in Calcutta ---an "Acharya" of one of the two lines you mention in a post on this board. Oh brother! He claims to have conversations with Babaji and Lahiri mahasaya and even conversations with my own Master Dasgupta Mahasay! (he wrote that to me and told me this along with some demands he had to make links to him and such! Yes--he wrote to me that he is in communication with my Master. When we wouldnt place links to his place he was angry and said Babaji told him he didnt want us to have it.The reaosn we wouldnt place links to him was because of the harasment he gave to my Swami friend.).
Real teachers are there as well if you look hard.
But people just accept blindly. They go by a name. Or a title. Or a fancy name for an organization.

My good friend,
Let us talk. What I tell youknow is not my opinion. So I dotn care if you argue because I wont be here to read it! :-). What I am going to tell you now is the tradition. These are not my views. They are not my theories. This is the tradition of Kriya.Listen--
The practice of Kechari is understood clearly by those who have been taught and practice it. If one has not receieved it from mouth of the Guru then there is no way to understand.
So let us look at the garland of letters. Here is a letter ofteh quoted here-
Garland of Letters--

"My tongue does not go up most of the time that I try. After I finish the
First Kriya suddenly it goes up and as per your instruction, I completed 200
Second Kriya. I only sit in the asana; You are the Lord who does
everything."

Lord, Those who practice kechari understand this quite well. There is no mystery at all. In the beginning when first attained it [kechari] is often difficult. It is attained and can be done but maybe is difficult to repeat each time "on demand" (at first). After once attaining it then it (tongue) may not go up much of the time "on demand" or "at will" even in spite of ones great effort to do so! Those who know smile when they read this letter from the garland of letters!
:-)
In the way shown by Guru (using the secret way shown and in the automatic stillness) it (kechari) can be made to repeat and go up again and then again gradully. So when tongue can be made to first go up then once up one has the ability to perform the second Kriya and make the "seal" necssary to make the pressure to break the heart knot duirng a special technique of Khumbak which is used in that kriya. So he is taught 2nd Kriya if tongue can go up. But when first taught (2nd kriya)he may not yet be to too skilled at the kechari so that when he sits to practice it (tongue) may not go up "on demand" as he would like! But as always, the stillness is a great tool and helps. He follows instruction and when the tongue finally ascends (as instructed) then proceeds.

See?

"My tongue does not go up most of the time that I try. After I finish the
First Kriya suddenly it goes up and as per your instruction, I completed 200
Second Kriya. I only sit in the asana; You are the Lord who does
everything."

This is how it is in the beginning. We smile when we read it and even chuckle warmly!

Someone right here once tried to reverse the meaning of this letter and say that it shows that Khechari wasnt required because they said the letter says the disciple couldn't do Kechari and they said "but yet the disciple has the 2nd Kriya so he must have qualified for it without kechari". But this is not true. On the contrary---the letter clearly states he CAN do kechari.
Read it carefully---The letter does NOT say -"My tongue does not go up ALL THE TIME that I try."
It doesnt say that at all does it?
It says "My tongue does not go up MOST of the time that I try."
The words "MOST" clearly means that sometimes it does go up. Otherwise he wouldnt have said "MOST OF THE TIME"!
In tradition of Lahiri Baba once tongue goes up he qualifies for 2nd Kriya (if the other things have been fulfilled. And that is between teacher and student).
But after qualifying for 2nd Kriya he may not be able to always do it [kechari] quickly "on demand" as he would like (at first). Even with great effort.
See?
This is in fact the normal experience.
Later, after awhile one beocmes a "pro". It becomes "a cinch!". But not always at first.
Understand? :-)

Look--this letter from the garland is very easy to understand for those who do the technique. They smile when they read it! It is familiar expereince to many!
So then with the kechari mudra one has the ability now to make the secret "seal"which is needed in the TRADITIONAL 2nd Kriya and break the heart knot. (I say for the traditional 2nd. Not the Paramhansa Yogananda 2nd kriya which is a different technique completely).
Let us talk about this.

Here is from Lahiri Mahasaya from His Gita 4:25:

" Omkar Kriya -- the oblation of yajna by yajna itself (Thokar with sealed breath).*
[*Translator's note: The parentheses and the text within them are in the original.]


See? "THokar with sealed breath".


This secret "seal" of the breath which is used in performing the 2nd Kriya on up
is why Lahiri mahasaya and His disciples refered to 2nd Kriya, 3rd kriya on upwards as "the Kriyas of Tanquil breath". Because breath is "sealed" and held "still".


Look and you will see--

Letter 21

"In the Kriya of the Tranquil Breath x x I hear a certain Sound. Sound is constant in the back of the head and many times I experience Tranquillity at the junction of the skull and the neck - the location of the medulla oblongata. From time to time I fall into bed from the intoxication."


to be continued.......

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