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Date Posted: 03:37:19pm 12/31/05 Sat,
Author: Stagophile
Subject: Re: Hoops Success & SAT Scores - Correlation or Causation?!?!
In reply to: JoeStag 's message, "Re: Hoops Success & SAT Scores - Correlation or Causation?!?!" on 12:27:50pm 12/30/05 Fri,

JoeStag,

To address your request for comparison data from the 1980s, I found the following post on the Villanova website in a thread discussing their growing national recognition....

http://villanova.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=759&tid=52580880&sid=&style=2

Villanova's changes are these...

* In the 1980s, the prime crossover application schools were B.C., Georgetown, Holy Cross as are included today, but also Seton Hall, St. Joseph's, Temple, Rutgers, Fairfield, Providence, Catholic University, Penn State, Saint Bonaventure, Niagara, Duquesne.

* Today they still include B.C., Georgetown and The Cross, but Notre Dame is firmly in there and, although there are 3-4 others more prominent on N.D.'s list, we are a major crossover for them, although considered a safety school, because only 27% of the co-acceptees opt for Villanova, not a great #, but a whole lot better than the old 10% figure between the two of us. Also, among the newbies: Lafayette College, Bucknell, Lehigh, a stronger Penn State presence, Marquette, U.C.L.A., Stanford, Cornell, University of Pennsylvania, Carnegie Mellon, to name some others.

Quite a change.

* A "highly competitive" admissions process that was considered "competitive" a generation ago. Average incoming S.A.T. range this fall, I hear (25th percentile to 75th)...1,220-1,380...A.C.T. range: 26-31. Nearly 50% of the enrollees will come from the top 10% of their high school classes.

* Where we had 84% of our incoming frosh in 1980 from just six states, and nearly 90 from the northeast, today, that six-state percentage is 69.5% and overall, the eastern percentage is 74.5. Eight percent each come from the midwest and west (back then, the TOTAL percentage from these two was 5%), 5% come from the southeast, 1.5% the southwest and about 3% foreign and territorial. Most of this change has come within the last 13 years.

It's one helluva change, and something of a casualty is some of the old identity. But I think we'll all adjust and really enjoy the new Villanova
imagery.

b70

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