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Date Posted: 08:07:05 08/28/03 Thu
In reply to:
A7sogno
's message, "Pychopath is too one dimensional" on 01:57:41 08/27/03 Wed
When someone is always over the top, when you KNOW that no matter what the character is going to do something stupid and lose it all, when you know that the character can never have anything of what he wants, and will always have tons of what he doesn't... why watch? Really, WGAD? The few that call it sweet suffering, delicious torture? Pffft, it's unviable as hell, moreso it's just boring as hell.
KDP has never needed anyone to prop her, in fact, they've thrown her into the most unviable storylines possible. I think she deserves a storyline that's romantic and fun and interesting. Something her fans could actually enjoy, as she has a LOT of them. Todd deserves a storyline where he's not a moron, where he's smart enough to actually follow through. Wacked that this plan is, it seems to be working to a certain extent and it's interesting, at least to a lot of people. Yesterday kind of said it all to me. The boards were mostly dead, the post that we did see were mostly folks bitching about how boring it all was. The day before was a Talker/Starr/Blair day, even MD was a rocking, the other boards were too, not just the Knoll.
TSJ is a good recast, and he's not Blair's "buttmole", he's Todd and before that he was Walker and even then he had the board abuzz because he's a very interesting actor. Kassie's had buttmoles before, the last one was Laurence Lau, and he wanted to be her buttmole, because he and TPTB felt that if he was Blair's buttmole, someone might enjoy him and like him for a change, or at least watch him. They didn't, thus...
Anyway, Todd needed to evolve, because psycho's generally go the way of Mitch Lawrence. As good as Roscoe Born was, as much as I loved him, Mitch was an over the top bore. That's pretty much what Todd had turned into until his last days, when Griffith stepped and attempted to repair the character. The change was great and it was welcome. The problem is that Roger left, so Griffith will do it with a recast, and I'm not going to complain. Watching crazy impotent Todd with his head up his ass during TnT while TeUGH screeched and attempted to save his soul, was about as exciting as watching paint dry, the only upside of it was that he didn't act like Jerry Lewis, the last time was the same story with Jerry Lewis thrown in for yucks...
Neither were viable, nor could the average viewer find a way to relate. Writing for the fringe is a loser proposition and it seems to me that TPTB have finally bought a clue. BTW, the fringe would BE those folks who think he should never grow, got off on fantasizing about Lestat, even though Lestat had been deader than a doornail for 8 or 9 YEARS. It sucks to try and root for a character destined to kick his own ass, at a certain point the viewer feels like a sucker, and that's not good business.
Time for Todd to step up like a man, if Howarth wasn't going to do it, then Malone and Griffith loved the character enough to chance a recast in a very unfriendly environment. I love them for it. As for TSJ, I think the man has brass balls, to go for it, anything less than brass balls to the wall and he'd fail. He's not failing, outside of those "I only watch for Todd, I don't GAFF about his women" circles, he's a success, and that's fine with me. WTF would TPTB give a damn about a bunch who only watch ONE character in ONE storyline and spend their days, screeching and bitching about his costars the evil writers always having him get his ass kicked, when it's obvious that's the only thing that they'll accept... see Todd kicking his own ass as keeping him "angsty". There's no logic to it, IMHO, and there never has been.
Here's to Todd Lord, they should have went there a long time ago.
>>>And I'm not here to convince you or anyone that I'm
>>>right, because, really, what I want is a do-over of
>>>the first Todd return (and everything that
>followed).
>>>I can't have that, but I will take something that's
>>>close, if I can get it.
>>>
>>>I'm just that much of a pushover.
>>
>>Grind...grind...grind...
>>
>>And that's what bothers me about this - and after
>>reading some posts on some message boards, your
>>description is what's happening: This is a do-over.
>>They've deleted years (the past seven along with
>>everything that happened in the two years prior to the
>>1995-Todd-and-Blair-three-month time period) to bring
>>this Wodd and Blair story. They're using some 'trauma'
>>to explain this sudden time warp - and that bothers
>>me. It's NOT Todd to me. I see it in so many posts -
>>looooong winding explanations of how this can happen,
>>how he can suddenly become this great guy, how Todd's
>>suddenly remembered the Todd of three months in 1995
>>and has forgotten everything ELSE.
>>
>>Eh...it's just not a Todd that makes sense to me. In
>>my opinion, Todd IS a psychopath (or something very
>>close to it). I like the psychopath - it makes sense
>>to me, it's ALWAYS made sense to me - he started out
>>one, and never got therapized to fix it.
>>1995Blair'sTodd was NOT a psychopath - he was a
>>romancing, rich guy-who's-got-con-artist-tendencies
>>who matches with and lives for Blair, a con-artist.
>>Wodd is not a psychopath. He's a romancing, rich
>>guy-who's-got-con-artist-tendencies who matches with
>>and lives for Blair, a con-artist. Aggravating to me.
>>
>>Side note: I like Paul on ATWT. I'm thrilled to watch
>>him without KdP just like I wanted. But I will always
>>love Todd the most - and I can't help but keep an eye
>>out for what's happening with him. And it bothers me
>>that he's being 'messed with'.
>>
>>The past weeks have really confirmed in my head that
>>TWO Todds were created by OLTL back in the years
>>1994-1995. And those two Todds are completely and
>>forever opposed. There is NO compromising of the two
>>characterizations. It created a whole NEW Todd
>>fanbase back then that only wanted 1995
>>Blair-romancing Todd. So the writers will NEVER be
>>able to satisfy the Todd-the-psychopath fans with the
>>Todd-the-Blair-Romancing-Guy fans. It's an impossible
>>task.
>>
>>The first Todd is a tough road to walk - ABC doesn't
>>want that guy. They constantly tried to meld that guy
>>with the latter (putting Tea in latter 1998 in the
>>Blair position) and it failed and then it failed with
>>Blair again for the past three years. Now it doesn't
>>fail so much because TSt.John is willing to go back in
>>time to the three months and pretend nothing
>>surrounding it happened.
>
>
>Let's just use this post to confirm and cheer the
>differences of what Cabbie and I like in our Todd
>preferences.....so much is clearer.
>
>Todd as a pychopath.....How friggin boring could you
>get.
>Where would you take this character? There will always
>be an edge, but not s stupid idiot who never grew up
>or into his life.....
>
>The romantic, unapologetic man, who loves his woman
>and wants a family altho the guy has no tools for any
>of it is compelling.....To see him constantly pycho,
>the way you like
>him would have brought him to Mitch....Being pycho is
>a difficult thing to top, you keep going and going
>until there
>can be no more TOP. Howarth was never one
>dimensional. The Hell you would cage him in he was too
>smart to get in...and now the writers who created him
>after all won't let him in that cage either.....no
>safe pretty edges for him not to please you or anyone
>else.
>
>They brought Todd on to show that the face of evil can
>have many levels.....layers.....in the original rape
>story...and that everyone has a hope for love and to
>belong.Especially when he becomes a fan favorite....
>He is written to find that hope and love in Blair and
>in the family he is to make with her.
>
>Until a certain thug attorney tried and miserably
>failed to manipulate their worst sides against each
>other,they had the ups and downs of two fascinating
>people deeply troubled but endlessly intriguing...and
>the ratings soared...of course until the
>aforementioned thug came....same fool who in the end
>decided FROZEN food offered by Todd wasn't enough
>to survive on and the only heat Todd had was for
>Blair, It decided to finally quit and see he would
>never be her's//// Thank god. The Todd that could be
>her's would never have made any sense. The Todd of HER
>period was the false Todd.
>The man so unhappy he was an open nerve and life was
>sandpaper......ah yes.....
>
>So you see, the clarity of the difference in our
>preferences in Todd speaks volumes. Todd is playing
>Paul on the other show, another face for an old
>character.....and Todd is playing Walker on the
>OLTL....stay with Howarth....he has become
>predictable, you'll be safe in the monotone.....I
>check in occasionally on commercialbreaks from OLTL
>and see goof Todd in full regalia....but freeze frame
>later the few snippets of him for his beautiful face
>and body....he is a looker still. Just a bit of a
>Toddy One Note even as Paul.
>
>I prefer to grow along with St. John
>and Todd.....and his original creators and see how
>Todd claims what is his.....Blair, played by the
>fabulous KDP,
>Starr played by the extraordinary Kristen, and take
>his rightful place as the very fucked up but trying
>Lord Heir.
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