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Date Posted: 15:58:55 11/04/04 Thu
Author: Flavia Azeredo
Subject: Re: Target language use on target.
In reply to: Marilene da Silva 's message, "Re: Target language use on target." on 19:24:14 11/03/04 Wed


Marilene,

A primeira vista as questoes sobre target lgg use dos nossos textos da semana parecem nao se aplicar a seu caso, mas penso que se for aos poucos como j'a falado pelos colegas vc vai conseguir algum resultado, e concordo totalmente com a profa Vera com relacao ao significado da L2 para o aluno. Apesar de todos os problemas penso que se talvez vc comecasse com a questao da responsabilidade do aprendizado, aplicando a proposta da Sinclair (p163) "record cards". Fazendo um levantamento com eles do que eles querem aprender e como acham que ppodem atingir esse objetivo, talvez comece a chamar a atencao dos alunos para a lingua.

Veja o que a professora Leni Dam fez (claro, penso eu que a realidade nas escolas Holandesas sejam outras, mas...)

How did she come to believe that the purpose of teaching is to help students to learn for themselves? On her first day of teaching, her well-prepared lessons had been met by yawning from the bored and inattentive teenagers in the classroom. On the second day, she tried to improve her teaching in order to ‘activate’ the students, but met with the same response. So far, so far familiar, to many secondary teachers. After two days of this, though, rather than reverting to teacher-directed mode, she finally banged the desk, got their attention, and said, “OK! So what do YOU want to do?”
Com relacao as possiveis dificuldades ela afirma que "Naturally, anyone trying to implement such an approach is likely to face problems ... difficulties for the learners in taking hold and being responsible; administration difficulties; the potential for chaos (her reply: "It's not a chaotic event. It’s a very structured event in which the learners know what they can do." - that is, choice must be there, but it is restricted); and the demands of the curriculum and tests. " ...increased insights into the learners' individual needs and ways of learning; and the satisfaction gained from becoming a co-learner (or even "a human being" as one of her teachers commented)."

Um abra'co, Flavia

Desculpem pela mensagem longa.

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