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Date Posted: 17:49:56 11/10/07 Sat

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Subject: introduction to Kabbalah

Author:
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Date Posted: 11:57:13 04/02/05 Sat

Introduction to Kabbalah

Mankind is constantly searching for a logical substantiation of their existence. To this end, man has been studying the laws of nature for many thousands of years.

Despite this, modern scientists are finding that the more they advance in their scientific investigations, the more confusing and unclear the picture of the world becomes. Answers to the question about the purpose of this world and mankind’s existence have not yet been found.

Kabbalah as a science offers a specific method of investigating the world. This method allows a person to develop the ability to perceive the part of the universe concealed from us. The world “Kabbalah” means “receiving”; it is a method that allows one to receive the highest knowledge, and to perceive the true “objective” picture of the world. Kabbalists explain this technique to us based upon their experiences. They have written books that teach the methodology of investigating the universe and receiving the answer to the question about the meaning of life.

From the beginning of time man has searched for answers to the main questions of life: Who am I? What is the goal of my existence? Why does the world exist? Do we continue to exist after death? etc. These unanswered questions about the goal and meaning of life add to our everyday human suffering – Why do we need to suffer at all? It does not allow us to feel fulfillment, even when some of our everyday desires are temporarily satisfied.

A person, having reached the desired goal, quite quickly begins to feel a lack of fulfillment again. Looking back he is able to see how much time he spent in agonizing attempts to reach the desired goal, but in comparison did not feel a substantial pleasure from the accomplishment.

As there are no answers to the questions of life, the search continues in many different directions. Ancient beliefs and currently popular eastern teachings are a part of these searches. Meditation as well as physical and intellectual exercises allow a person to feel more comfortable in this world, but this is just an attempt to distract oneself from the questions, since one’s desires are left unfulfilled and the meaning of life is not found. All these methods relax a person as they lower a person’s desires, not because they have reached the answer to the goal of life and meaning of suffering.

However, soon man discovers that it is impossible to ignore the truth. We begin to perceive that a huge volume of knowledge necessary for further existence is hidden from us, and feel a strong necessity and urge to discover this truth.www.kabbalah.info

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Subject: Site about Yoga, Krishna, meditation, relaxation, the Maha Mantra, Enlightenment and Bhakti

Author:
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Date Posted: 10:22:27 10/15/04 Fri

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Subject: For your recommendation

Author:
Wai Ching
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Date Posted: 18:46:05 08/16/02 Fri

Mail to your "new" address was bounced back two times. Hope you are doing well. Two things I am soliciting your help:
1) your recommendation of names from Taiwan, HK or China for participation in a small conference on Religion and Gender. We are looking for scholars who would like to address the issue of Gender and Politics in the context of Buddhism.

2) your availability for translation of one article in Asian feminist theology before October.

If you could provide me with a Email address that could reach you, I would explain the details to you.

Take care,
Wai Ching

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Subject: §Ń°O¤FŖń�NŖŗ¤�\|
Author: szeto [Edit]	Date Posted: 16:07:43 07/07/02 Sun �Ģ�Ģ»P±į±į�A ±į±į»�³ĢŖń¦^�h¬Ż�m¦Ń´Ż¹C°O�n�A´N�O§Ś·QØģ�H©¹´X¦~¶]�hÅŖŖń/²{�N¤¤°ź«ä¼é�vŖŗøgÅē�I«ÜĆų·Q¹³½}�A§Ś³oÓÅŖµf®Ń�B°µ·ķ�N¬ćØsŖŗ�h°µ³oØĒ�C¦ż¬O³Ģ¤j¦¬Ć¬�B¤]¬OÅXØĻ§ŚÅŖ¤U�hŖŗ�A¬O²{¦b¦hµ¹æņ§Ń¤FŖŗ¤@ØĒ·ķ®ÉŖŗ�u¤å¤Ę¬ćØs�v�CÅŖ¤F¤@°ļ·ķ®É¤wøg«Ü�J²ÓŖŗ¤å¤Ę¦^ÅU»P¤Ļ«ä»P¤Ī«Ü²`ØčŖŗŖF¦č¤å¤Ę¬ćØs�I¤]µo²{�A¦b¬v°Č¹B°ŹĮŁØS¦Ø®šŌŖŗ·ķ®É�A¤wøg¦³¤H¤Ļ«ä²{¦b�s¤�\|ŖŗØŗŗŲ¤å¤Ę¬FŖvµų³��A¦Ó¤�\|¬O´X¤QØģ¤Q´X¦~«įŖŗØĘ�I«ÜÅå³Y�CĮŁ¦³«įØÓ�A³s¾\|Ø³øņ¤@ØĒ¤�\|®É�N·ķ®ÉŖŗ¤HŖ«�A¤]¤wøg¬ŻØģ²{¦b�s�u¤�\|�v«ä¼éŖŗØŗŗŲ·NĆŃ§ĪŗA·\|Ø«Øģ�uŖk¦č´µ�vŖŗÅŽæč¦M¾÷øĢ±�AĮöµMØŗ®ÉĮŁØS¦³fascism³oÓ·§©Ą�C¤£¹L�LĢŖŗ²Ó±K»P½ĘĀųµ¹¤j¼é¬y»~ÅŖ»P²¤¹L¤F�C«Ü�i±¤�IØŗÓ¤j¼é¬y�Aµ¹�LĢ¤°»ņ¦nŖF¦č¤]¬O·\|ĮVĮĻ¤FŖŗ�C©Ņ�H¤�\|¤å¤ĘÅŽæč²×©ó³y´N¤F¤@Ó¤ņæAŖF�C§Ś°µŖŗ¬ćØsĄYØā³¹´N¬O¬Ż�u¦nØk¤H�vøņ�u¦nŗ~�vŖŗÄźÅu¤l¬O«ē»ņ±qŖń�N·dØģ·ķ�N�hŖŗ�C³s¾ś�v®a³Æ±G«ń�A¾Ē³e�j¤µ�B¤FøŃ¤¤ģ©MĆä½t¤å¤Ę�Bøg¾ś¤F¤�\|Øģ¤å²Ŗŗ¤H�A¤]øõ¤£�X¤�\|æņ¶ĒŖŗ¤@ØĒŖ¼ĀI�C»´ä�B�xĘW»P¤¤°ź¹B°Ź»P¤å¤Ę¬ÉøĢ±Ŗŗ�u¦nŗ~�v»P�u·s¦nØk¤H�v�A´N§ó¤£¦bøÜ¤U¤F�C§Śn¬°�LĢ¤@Æß¬Ū©ÓŖŗ¤ņÆf§@¤@²M¤G·�ŖŗÆf¾ś�A¤]n§āØŗÆfŗA·ķ¤µŖŗ¤£¦PÅÜŗŲ¤@»y¹DÆ}�C³oÓŖń�NØģ·ķ�NŖŗ°ź®a´É±ē¤@¶ņ½k¶īŖŗÆßµø¤@©wn¼g�XØÓ�CĮŁ¦³«Ü¦hn·QnĮæ�C¦^ØÓ¦A¦n¦n½Ķ½}�C [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Subject: How European Fascism Studies can be useful for our contexts

Author:
szeto
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Date Posted: 14:05:39 07/07/02 Sun

Dear gumgum and friends,
My dissertation actually uses a lot of Jewish and Central European scholarship on fascism and the Holocaust in the analysis of ethnic and sexual violence, as well as national and mainstream cultural imaginations/myths of our own contemporary Chinese contexts. We will certainly discuss more extensively when we see each other. For the past several years, scholars like Alenka Zupancic, Renata Salecl, Slavoj Zizek, Giorgio Agamben, Jacques Derrida, Judith Butler, Arjun Appadurai and others, all focus on the issue of cultural fantasies and violence, cultural fantasies and hatred, etc., whether obvious or subtle, sexual and/or racial.
My work is to analyse how these thoughts can be refined, modified and borrowed usefully to dicuss our own situations, especially when the problem is not yet as obvious.However, we can see the logic of the problem developing. Although it does not appear as horrible on the surface, our societies are already operating on those terrifying logics. The point is, how can we effectively convince people that things are so, and be able to show how and illustrate why.
Too long a story. Let's get together and chat more soon.

szeto

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Subject: one more thing

Author:
sunsun
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Date Posted: 11:45:05 07/07/02 Sun

gumgum,

one more thing�K similar to the ways you numbered the bad deeds of the govt, i think of this as the bad thing about hk is that the ways used by tung is now spreading everywhere... top-down, parental rule, fascist, lack of visions�K in my school, we are struggling to get more "good" staffs in (there are already too many bad people), especially animation people. but regarding the recent staffing committee meeting which decided to hire an animator, a co-worker wrote:

1) there is no single animator
2) there is no woman
3) there is no people who know the art scene in hk
4) there is no one who has connections to pertinent industry in hk, or in the world
5) it consists of several people that are actually unrelated to the whole issue.

I�¦d add, there is no junior faculty and no one younger than 35... as a joke and a wishful thinking...

sigh!. is it like the govt we have now?
do you know, the school of creative media, a media school, is now headed by a person from law school (of course an white american), who basically knows nothing about the media, arts, technology, and cultural studies of course, who only talks about visions of the school and its relations with china, and always asks, " are we producing the right students?"

i was just asked about these on last fri!?!?!?!
what could i say?

take good care of yourself while fighting the evils!
sun

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Subject: repsonse to gumgum

Author:
sunsun
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Date Posted: 11:19:05 07/07/02 Sun

hey gumgum,

thanks gumgum, it is so nice to read your stuffs. i mean not "nice" to be conscious like that, but "nice" to share. i did have so much similar feelings. remember i sent you a chinese article in late june regarding personal histories, the HONG KONG HISTORY, and the feelings i have living in hk? There are similar sentiments built-in. hang it here gumgum! Don�¦t be too frustrated. Let your soul be in a beautiful zen bath in the high mountains. Love yourself more!

i have a personal realization that we share some similar ways of thinking, no wonder we came from the same group before :-)

sigh! for my ways of "surviving", i don't just mean surviving on living, but supporting myself to live my ideas, i've turned to education. of course, i am lucky enough to be inside institutions. to be able to stay "inside", of course, we have to bear the bureaucracy and the painful experience to see it as merely the mirror of the real world. when you mentioned fascists, i remember lung yin tai's article on fascist artists, a fascist can play pretty good violin sometimes. so we have to be more careful, like in the dept that i am working, like ho chi peng (he was the head of arts development council before and a fucking mess!), the person who knows nothing except eye diseases and violin (maybe ballet and opera, if that says all about art) but is now in charge of home affairs...

see you when you are back. we can go to swimming together. health is important la... i will be extremly busy this month anyways. teaching a summer course. it is culture and identity (a good chance to talk more about fascists... we will talk about "under the lion rock hill�Ø, politically bed time stories, and the story of cat massacre in 1730's. let you know more later).

hey, i might as well also share the chinese article i sent you before here, so more people can read it and raise discussions, although it is not directly about the handover.

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Subject: reply to lulu
Author: gumgum [Edit]	Date Posted: 19:41:45 05/27/02 Mon 1. yes, "system" mean the way we're thinking, but it should be more meaningful when we say it means WE. WE are the system, for without WE, we have no system. as one stand-up comedian said, the best way to fight against hegemonic power is to stop having kids. to a larger or less extend, we all contribute to the system, we maintain it, we bound by it, mode it, change it; we trust it, depend on it, fight against it, overthrow it. every single person is the system. 2. it's a paradox, ppl who strive for a change of THE system, especially those in the field of sexual liberation and sexual rights, are so true and passionate and yet at the same hypocratic and cold. we cry slogans, we live by theories, but we despite/forgot about human feelings and emotion, which we think is old fashion and not stylish and should be denounced. I was just asking for a more humane movement and was thrown to the ming kwong sher camp. so you see, this is our limitation. we (including me) always think and act in a dualism manner: either you are we or you are them. so i dont see there is any different between u and me. 3. dont get me wrong. theory is not at all evil, living by the theory and forcing other to live out theory is. i like theory as i like map and dictionary, i have been a theory person in all my life, but there is also a time when i was even blind by theory (the time when i shine like a shooting star). i am learning more and more theory now so (i think) i am more mature with it now. i am just very pissed off by those ppl (eg, those old "comrades") who know a lot of theories and using those theories in a immature way to attack ppl/justify themselves. i perceive myself a honest person so my weakness and limitation is i expect others to be honest (to themselves) too. 4. communicate........actually, i dont really believe in dialogue, coz most ppl do not prepare to change their mind and just wanna change others during dialogue, maybe to u i am also like that. real communicate is very hard for human beings that i am fairly pessimistic to it, tho yes, i really do hope at least we can communicate better as i believe we have been long time ago. however, that does not mean that communicate can solve the loneliness issue. i have been walking into the no-man land and it is not just on ideology, also physical and spiritual. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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regarding communication -- ele, 01:39:03 05/29/02 Wed

Subject: hello my dear friends
Author: ele [Edit]	Date Posted: 06:39:35 05/24/02 Fri hello everybody, it's a very long time since i last wrote to you guys, and it seems like a long time since we last met.... even though it's merely two months... yes, i can testify that it has been a very intensive year for the two of you, and i have learnt a lot from it even though i was merely an 'observer' of the whole 'drama'.... human beings, or should i say all sentient beings, are 'queer' entities... so much driven by our hormones and neuro-chemistry, but what's the most frightening is that a lot of our decisions are made based on those passional/irrational moments.... today, i have been feeling rather moody and depressed. i know very well why it is the case - my period is going to come soon - yet the realisation of it doesn't stop my emotions from being unstable.... today, i have been thinking a lot about the meaning/mission of my life... sigh... those questions have haunted me for decades, but i haven't asked those questions for over two years already, and now they are coming back to me, and i know that it's more than some simple philosophical investigation, it's a sign of my old friend - melancholy - coming back to me.... i then think about why i feel this way again. and the answer seems silly, superficial, yet true - i think i start feeling homesick again for being in this kind of indefinitely long self-imposed exile...... anyway, i don't want to burden you on my stupid emotions, but i feel better bursting them out. anyway, got to go back to do some work. i miss you all. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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dear ele, sooooo glad to hear from you finally. it seems just like yesterday when we chat intestively thru msg board, but life is so very different from then to now. i dont feel good these weeks either, tonight i happen to bump into some old "friends", ta (NT) -- gumgum, 22:52:19 05/24/02 Fri dear ele, i think your "mission" in life is clearer and clearer, your attentive ears and caring heart can "save" so many lost souls. you've already built up the "prestige" of a caring and constructive friend-counsellor. if you like to take this role, do go for it. we're already in your "client" list. (NT) -- lulu, 15:46:55 05/27/02 Mon dear lulu, thank you so much for your kind encouragement. yes, i do feel clearer and clearer about my mission in life, and it is always my greatest pleasure to listen to friends as well as others who need a listener.... i don't have any complaint really, and i am indeed very grateful to be given the chance to go back to school again, and to be able to develop a nurturing relationship with someone i love. i must confess i do get those 'mood swings' from time to time though, partly due to homesickness, and partly due to my proponsity to melancholy. in any case, it's nothing unusual - it used to be a lot worse few years ago, when it actually affected my functioning..... last night i stayed up all nite working on a statistics report, i still feel a bit dream-like now, so please excuse me if i'm not writing much sense.... (NT) -- ele, 01:07:51 05/29/02 Wed

Subject: dear ele@kim.home
Author: gumgum [Edit]	Date Posted: 14:09:16 05/25/02 Sat well, sin sang said that i am such a serious person, indeed i am, too heavy. but i don't mind that, coz i will parallel myself to important ppl and not the day-dreaming ones. my "problem" is that i cannot see things as simple and straight forwards as b4. i think it happen after the may 1999 rally outside legco, and to its height in the past one year. my own suffering leads me to see things beyond theory, system and ultimate ideal, not i am a rebel no more, not really i become ming kwong sher, but i rather take very intimate, delicate human feelings, emotions and relations into account when we talk abt liberation and other ideoloty, not just crying we must liberate and change the system - WHO is the system afterall? i think the more important now is to learn and recognize our weaknesses and limitaions, without that, it is just hypocrisy and fake, big, empty to claim to breakthrough and go beyond. i think i am in this learning stage, and i believe i will be able to produce a more credible "theory" after this. ppl think that i have "betray" them coz i am a shut fun fu yan (a new label) and my words are credible no more, but i am so sure i will go beyond these in a forseeable future. and on the other hand, i am so sure that i will be very very lonely in the coming future too, and i may become "mad", so you will be so much needed after you become a psychiatrist and you should become my personal doctor by that time. ;) take care my friend, you are such a treasure in my life, keep well coz you r needed by so many. see? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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can "system" mean the way we're thinking? to change or to improve the "system" of thinking is to change the way we're thinking and seeing things. it's a way to look at our limitation and weaknesses. "system" is not an inhuman or "external" kind of stuff, it's created by human and it's the product of human brains. to change the system is to change the way we're thinking and living. it finally comes down to human hearts as well. (NT) -- lulu, 15:38:43 05/27/02 Mon a reply -- lulu, 16:16:55 05/27/02 Mon

Subject: dear ele
Author: gumgum [Edit]	Date Posted: 22:56:59 05/24/02 Fri oh, the board really sucks, my reply to ur msg was broken. anyway, i bumped into some old "friends" tonight and i feel so far away from them. i think i have changed so much, that even when i am studying all the de-construction and liberation theory, i cannot live by them at all, as i have, or other ppl imagine me have perform it. and i think there is no way to good back or even look back. and feel really pissed off to talk to them again, that we dont have common language anymore. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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i'm very glad to hear from you too:-) life has indeed changed a lot for the last two years... golly, we have known each other for nearly two years already! i see what you mean by meeting 'old friends' who now think and behave so differently from you.... having moved on so much, how would you describe your life now? if it is not too big a qu to ask. (NT) -- ele (@ kim's place), 07:22:03 05/25/02 Sat

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Date Posted: 17:45:35 05/19/02 Sun

yes, both of us in fact have been undergoing an emotionally intensive year from 2001-2002, for me, it was a long period of mourning over my lost love and all the "good old days". however, when looking back, although still with some hanging over emotions, i think this most devastating event is also the best gift i ever have in my life. by losing the most loving woman in my life, i found myself, after a lifetime of searching.

through my suffering, i truly understand what is suffering and pain of life, i understand what is life and i understand what is love, and the importance of appreciation and treasuring. if i have to name one thing that make life so miserable, i would say: the impermanency of life. as you will remember, things just happened, without warning, and your whole world was torn into piece. it seems that good thing just last a second but bad things last for a life, but i now can tell you, impermanence of life is not what make us suffer, coz someone told me in the midst of my sorrow, those who suffers should be grateful that life is impermanent, or suffering will last forever, now as least you have hope! the truth is, it was that wish of "hoping everything will be back in place when i wake up next morning" which tortures us. we "hope" we will get the "best" things all the time, but we forget best is constructed and maintained and things will change, and even if we really do have the best thing everyday, we get tired of it. then we move on to look for it, and the samsara goes on.

still, don't worry about rubbish and rotting tomato, i have the best protected cortex clothing and a 150 pounds foundation, so neither can you dirt me or overthrow me. just wish that you can be a bit more humble to learn from your life, and that's all i ask of you. and mind you, fireworks and energy-saving bulbs are just two sides of a coin, and heaven and hell are both in your heart.

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Date Posted: 17:48:18 05/18/02 Sat

hi everybody, i'm liz from b-zine, the cyber neighbour of gum gum.

it seems that we're so much preoccupied this year... my message board is in coma, and now seems that this board is no longer as active as before.

i have been undergoing an emotionally intensive year. tumbled from here and there in relationships. i have undergone the most terrible moments in my life. it's the dark age of my emotional life. my mechanism is i try to forget about everything that tortures me. but still i can remember the suffocating nights sitting before the computer and weeping quietly in dark. i never know it can be that torturing in relationship. i think i can no longer love as lightly as before. it's like there's already to much dust in my heart. i was so longing to leave everything, be an escapist, living in another part of the world and totally forget about everything. i've made people suffer because of me and i'm suffering from the consequence.

i have tasted finally of the feeling of hating myself. i just let my emotion drifting around. now, i'm just walking out from one pool of mud. i hope i can get the "peace of mind" which i am so longing for and stop tumbling around in mud.

i dont know if this board is still active or not, but if not too ¦×³Ā, i really want to show my thankfulness to gum gum, altho i always throw rubbish and rotting tomato at u, and always intends to overthrow u, i really appreciate your extraordinary generosity to me and always keep a caring eye on me no matter i'm a monster or a normal person. i'm starting to picking up myself. and i'm really glad that after so many horrible times, we can still keep that bonding and you're still on my side :)

ok i know you always think i'm a ungrateful bitch, now i just post here to let you know altho sometimes i'm a bitch, but also i have some heart and am really grateful for what you have done in the past when i was in hell :)

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gum gum, your message is kind as well as powerful. it's doubtful, or rather too early to say, whether it can help people out of a helpless situation, but it does have an impact on those who actually get the message, like me. only that instead of praying, were me in that situation, i would ask: 'where's the god after all?' for where's the god when ossama is more capable of keeping his promise than (the) god!!! (NT) -- cherry, 01:13:22 09/30/01 Sun Sorry, there is no god... (NT) -- BS, 10:57:51 10/03/01 Wed there's nothing to be sorry about :-) (NT) -- cherry, 18:43:45 10/03/01 Wed but who knows after all? (NT) -- cherry, 18:45:21 10/03/01 Wed

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Author: liz [Edit]	Date Posted: 22:13:01 05/13/01 Sun is hating and condeming rich ppl the only way out for the acute global economic inequality? besides anger, anything else we can do to lessen the hardship of human beings? maybe i'm born out of the "black 5 categories" as to use the revolutionary term of the PRC dynasty, i'm puzzled of the conscious effort to hate the rich and to throw anger at them will bring any actual improvement to the situation. anger maybe a revolutionary force, but it can never allow your mind to be clear and balanced. the security measures and the attitude of the SAR gov't indeed deserve criticism and it contradicts the image of hk as a so-called "democratic" city. but just to hate the rich will ever bring hope to the under-priviledged ppl? what's the ultimate reasons which lead to the situation that makes so many ppl suffer? it's a self-defeating effort if we only incite ppl's anger against the rich at the time when everyone dreams of getting rich themselves. just like the poor ppl after the formation of new china celebrated mao's policy to nationalise all the enterprises and private property, but later once the former poor ppl become rich, they are the same as their former rich enermies, privatisation and capitalism are never dead in ppl's mind even after the formation of the new china. dear mao mao, i know you're very clear-minded despite u tend to express only 1/3 of your entire thinking :P. but there're ppl in hk who only have anger and slogans and i dont know who's their "target audience" or they are just having an anger demonstration show to make noise. i dont know what can we do besides anger and street shows? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Subject: meditation
Author: tortured mind [Edit]	Date Posted: 17:01:24 06/04/01 Mon dear �Ģ�Ģ«×�Ą, any new interesting things learnt recently ah? long time no hear wor. i have been a tortured mind for some time and lately i was tortured physically too. i want to try meditation for long time, anyone here has such experience and can share a bit? i want to tidy up and clear my mind to the rite direction and regain my peace. and gum, can we have group meditation? sounds like a not bad idea, it can be one of our programs if we go hiking... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Subject: miss the point
Author: gumgum [Edit]	Date Posted: 17:39:40 05/20/01 Sun dear liz, i'm afraid you have just missed my point. i am sorry that i was too tired that day and posted a not very responsible message, but there is nothing to do in my message about hating the rich. we are fighting the injustice system that allows a handful of people to split the world's wealth, whoever they are, that has absoluting nothing to do with chairman mao and his so-called struggling against the so-called rich in the cultural revolution. i feel sorry for what your family has experienced in that period of time, but you got the wrong target, those people who were demonstrating in the street are not the red guard although the SAR govt tried to label them as. i agree with you they may not have a good stragegy, but they have at least a good heart, and power struggle is the least thing they intend. i hope you can know them better before you ever judge them again [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Subject: b-zine massage board is back
Author: liz [Edit]	Date Posted: 23:54:16 05/13/01 Sun dear all, b-zine is now relaunching it's message board. it's re-named as b-zine hot gal's cafe. please visit http://www.voy.com/29855/ [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Re: µ¹ØC¤@¦ģÆk±¤§ŚŖŗŖB¤Ķ -- bamb, 05:57:06 05/01/01 Tue §Ś¤]¬°§A·P®¦©M³ß®®�C -- almond, 14:04:22 05/01/01 Tue Re: µ¹ØC¤@¦ģÆk±¤§ŚŖŗŖB¤Ķ -- cherry, 21:17:39 05/02/01 Wed Re: µ¹ØC¤@¦ģÆk±¤§ŚŖŗŖB¤Ķ -- big head, 16:37:38 05/03/01 Thu Re: µ¹ØC¤@¦ģÆk±¤§ŚŖŗŖB¤Ķ -- guanyin, 17:58:23 05/05/01 Sat

Subject:

Hey all

Author:
storm
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Date Posted: 19:09:02 04/30/01 Mon

Dont know if anyone can read this as everyone is writing in a strange other language! Erm, all i came here to say is that ive got a new board going called the "crystal lake enchanted forest" at www.voy.com/26800

its got many different creatures from vampires and witched to chaos angels and winged panthers. I hope you can visit sometime, as the topics are just general discussion - whatever takes our fancy! Please take a visit as im sure you will be suprised.

thanx a lot
Storm

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Subject: ¬°¤°»ņ
Author: almond [Edit]	Date Posted: 15:39:16 04/29/01 Sun ¾Ē¦ņ¬O¬°¦Ū¤vŖŗøŃ²ę�A³Ģ«įģØÓ¬O¬°²³�ĶŖŗ�C [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: testing
Author: drolma [Edit]	Date Posted: 10:31:22 03/31/01 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Åå³ß
Author: cherry [Edit]	Date Posted: 00:34:57 03/09/01 Fri §AĢhomepageŖŗ¤¤^¤å¹ļ·Ó¦n±o·N�A¦n¦³¤ß«ä°Ś�T³oÓmessage boardŖŗ³]p¤S´X¦noµf�T§AĢ·Q�²Ŗį¤F«Ü¦h¤ß¦å§a�H�[Ŗo°Ś�T [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Re: Åå³ß -- �Ģ, 01:55:18 03/09/01 Fri

Subject: RE: To Author
Author: Endlessknot [Edit]	Date Posted: 19:30:34 03/08/01 Thu Nice to see your new message board! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Re: RE: To Author -- �Ģ, 01:28:48 03/09/01 Fri

Subject: nice board
Author: liz [Edit]	Date Posted: 18:01:07 03/08/01 Thu this board is better... hope we can keep this longer. i think i will use this site to build up a new board ofr b-zine too! wish customers come here like cloud! «Č¦ü¶³ØÓ! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Re: nice board -- cherry, 01:24:17 03/09/01 Fri

Subject: welcome once again

Author:
drolma
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Date Posted: 15:31:38 03/08/01 Thu

dear all,

welcome to more-bodhi.
new meeting place again. since the last message board could not should message content and not even replies' headings, it is far from satisfaction.
so i hope this message board, like the old one, will suits you better.
i will transport all the messages from the last board andrepost them here.

enjoy.

all auspicious!

drolma

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