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Date Posted: 00:59:31 05/20/11 Fri
Author: Margaret
Subject: Re: If you are here still
In reply to: Ben 's message, "Re: If you are here still" on 02:59:54 05/18/11 Wed

Hello, Ben,
well, we continue our conversation. In beginning some my commentaries about previous topics and, of course, my questions, OK?



"1). Is it right that Jack, really big boy, can't
>>close door in bathroom and has to poop in front me?
>
>You did absolutely right, Margaret. If he shows
>behaviour of a "dirty" little kid, you should treat
>him so.
>Perhaps you should also stay directly in bathroom from
>time to time, while he is pooping." - Ben, I did it almost each day. I stood in open door and Jack had to pooped under my observation. I understand, it was embarrassed for him, but according to his behavior, he lost modesty privilege and had to accept my authority even in this situation. A couple times he didn't want to poop and got enema. After pooping, I myself wiped him and, then, he had to repeat wiping himself. I think it's good method for teaching. I did it already, when Jack was 5, but I never though that I will teach him again to wipe his big hairy behind in his 16!


"2). Was right invitation of Mike, who wasn't punished
>>and was observator only?
>Yes, it was right. In the opposite case, Jack would
>also have the right of watching Mike's punishment,
>right?" - Yes, of course, Jack many times saw Mike's punishments.



Ben, now about your additional questions:

1) Did you insist that Jack had to show into yours and
Nancy's eyes while lecturing and apologizing? -
And if he didn't, did you raised his face by hand? -
- Ben, Nancy and me were sitting, Mike stood near his mother, but Jack was standing in front us. Yes, he had to look my eyes and he did it after my reminding.


>2) Was he very ashamed and did he has a red face or so? -
- Of course, he had red face, at least since moment, when I helped him take off his briefs and he was standing in front us naked with hands on head.


3) When you bathed Jack, did he have an erection all
>the time and also ejaculation? How did you clean his
>penis then? -
- Ben, he had erection a few times, when I bathed him, but I directed cold water on his erected penis and very fast it was soft again. Yes, then I washed his penis the same as his crack and all parts of his body. I think, for last years, when I decided he is big already for mom's bathing, he never was such clean, although he felt embarrassment, I understand. No big deal. I'm mother.


4) While getting enema, did Jack also have an erection
>or did he have ejaculation? How much water did you
>use? Was it only water or soapy water, for example?
>While holding the water within for 10 minutes, did he
>get cramps and if yes, how was your reaction? Which
>position Jack had to stay in while holding the water? -
- Yes, both times while getting enemas Jack had erections. He stood on knee and elbows with maximally spread legs and I could see everything clearly enough. The second time, when I already almost gave all water, I have seen his balls were pulled tight to his body, and his penis was pointing straight towards the floor, twitching and throbbing, and he shotted little stream on floor. Jack was mortified, I saw it. I told him Jacky it's OK you are big boy enough and it's usually for men during enema. Then he expelled, I wiped his behind and gave him bath.
I used old bulb 1/2 pt with plain warm water. It was enough for stimulation Jack's stool. For best effect of enema, he was standing 10 minutes in the same knee-elbow position and I pressed his cheeks by my hand for holding water without leakage. He had no any cramps.


>5) Please describe Jack's words as he thanked Nancy
>and Mike. Did he also thank you for his disciplination? -
- Yes, I reminded him what he ought to do, and he told Nancy and Mike something I was bad and you spent time and saw it... Then he told me thank mom I'l be good. I hugged and kissed him, Nancy kissed his forehead and Mike "gave five". Then, I permited him to take clothes and go in his room.


>6) How did he show his anus to you three, bend over
>and cheeks spread by hand? -
- Yes, he had to stand back with each from us, spread legs, bent and spread cheeks by hands. In this position crack and anus were seeing enough for visual evaluation their cleanliness.


Ben, now, a few my questions about your friends:

"One of my friends had to wear diapers after having a "dirty" crack during the exams.
>>>The other one got ginger plugs as punishment for
>that.
>>>My mom used this only three times for me, that was
>>>evil."
How were names of your friends ( "A" - examined till
>>17, "B" - examined by mother till 18) for more detail
>>questions. The first questions, how often did you see
>>their exams? Other questions will be in next letter.
>
>Say Adam for A and Bert for B.
>I saw it 3 - 5 times." -

1) Ben, who were "Adam" and "Bert", your neighbors, classmates or...?
2). Did you see it 3-5 times for each or it was for both?
3). Which circumstances were when you was witness of these procedures - sleepover, special invitation or...?
4). Who was witness except you?
5) Was it cleanliness checking only or they got spanking then too? If yes, how parents spanked them?
6). How long time "Adam" had to wear diapers? Who changed it? Did he have to poop in diapers too?
7). Please, more detail about "ginger plug"?

I' wait your answers.



Ben, I'm rereading our previous conversatios, and I have many enough additional questions about your rearing (I'm admiring your mother, who could (I'm sorry!) "dirty disobedience teen" transform in such honour man as you! Your experience with your "trio" is very important for me, and, as you can see, works with some problems in rearing of Jack.
Ben, because we have frank conversations, I, as usually, will be able to ask you some sensitive questions, OK?

Ben, best wishes to you and your family,
my kiss to Vanessa (let Mark will be very carefull with her now).

PS. Ben, Jack thank you for concern about him and asks about Mark - did he preffer get spanking from you or mom?
(Jack was spanked by me only and doesn't father's punishments)

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