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Date Posted: 05:18:07 03/06/06 Mon
Author: Anonymous
Subject: BEWARE OF GLITZ AND GLAMOUR

This pageant system had a pageant in WV today and it was the worst pageant we have ever attended. The prelim cost around $170.00 and they gave cheap awards, and the pageant was a mess. The judges were clueless and lots of beautiful girls got cheated. Several parents here in WV do not want the system to ever come back to WV. If it does I know several of us will not attend. This system is a scam. I heard they have had problems in KY, OH, and now WV. Directors you should be ashamed of yourself. You were begging for contestants and not even 13 kids and look at the mess. I would tell anyone to beware and not get caught in this scam as we did here in WV.

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[> Who are the directors? -- Anonymous, 05:19:07 03/06/06 Mon [1]

>This pageant system had a pageant in WV today and it
>was the worst pageant we have ever attended. The
>prelim cost around $170.00 and they gave cheap awards,
>and the pageant was a mess. The judges were clueless
>and lots of beautiful girls got cheated. Several
>parents here in WV do not want the system to ever come
>back to WV. If it does I know several of us will not
>attend. This system is a scam. I heard they have had
>problems in KY, OH, and now WV. Directors you should
>be ashamed of yourself. You were begging for
>contestants and not even 13 kids and look at the mess.
>I would tell anyone to beware and not get caught in
>this scam as we did here in WV.


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[> Deanna Bowen Bessie Fields and Amy Smith ky pgt mom Congrats to all -- Anonymous, 05:20:34 03/06/06 Mon [1]


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[> [> Pageant was great! If you paid $170 then you wan't at Glitz n Glamour Ky PM CI -- Anonymous, 05:22:20 03/06/06 Mon [1]

Entry fee $60...if you did any extras you would have paid more. As with all pageants there were extras offered at the door...Key word is they are all OPTIONAL to enter. Meaning you may enter these if you choose and they are required to win supreme titles other than Ultimate Elite Grand.

Door Overalls $20
Ultimate Elite Grand $20
Age division optionals $5
Buddy and Me Supreme $10

awards were Crowns from 4 to 10 inches...trophies from 12" to 5 foot 2 post and more...

Im sure if some wv moms were unhappy then gng will still get enough contestants to have pageants there...in ohio and ky they always pull from 25 to 35 per pageant...now tell me..is that bad? just because you are an unhappy pageant mom...dont go bashing..you had ample time at the pageant today to speak with both judges and directors...pageants are better off without people like you
OOC $20

Total $135

Also there were 20 contestants there not 13....


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[> [> [> we did GNG in OH and it was awful. My child got a cheap doll for a 165 fee -- Anonymous, 05:23:27 03/06/06 Mon [1]

>Entry fee $60...if you did any extras you would have
>paid more. As with all pageants there were extras
>offered at the door...Key word is they are all
>OPTIONAL to enter. Meaning you may enter these if you
>choose and they are required to win supreme titles
>other than Ultimate Elite Grand.
>
>Door Overalls $20
>Ultimate Elite Grand $20
>Age division optionals $5
>Buddy and Me Supreme $10
>
>awards were Crowns from 4 to 10 inches...trophies from
>12" to 5 foot 2 post and more...
>
>Im sure if some wv moms were unhappy then gng will
>still get enough contestants to have pageants
>there...in ohio and ky they always pull from 25 to 35
>per pageant...now tell me..is that bad? just because
>you are an unhappy pageant mom...dont go bashing..you
>had ample time at the pageant today to speak with both
>judges and directors...pageants are better off without
>people like you
>OOC $20
>
>Total $135
>
>Also there were 20 contestants there not 13....


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[> The pageant was a joke and it was almost two hours late. I can see why people are upset. I have never been so upset in my life when I left a pageant. My child got nothing but a cheap doll and paid that amount of money to enter. It was just a prelim also. Then I found out that the judges knew all the kids in the pageant. I know lots of people in OH that will not go back to -- Anonymous, 05:24:35 03/06/06 Mon [1]


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[> I took my daughter to a pageant in KY they had and I will not return -- ky mom, -- Anonymous, 05:25:49 03/06/06 Mon [1]


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[> [> continued-The lady they had judging make clothes for the kid that won grand supreme. It was very unorganized and they combined smaller kids with children four years older. I can see why these Moms are upset about the pageant. I took my daughter to one they had last year in KY and I told them I would never be back. They seem to have problems at all their pageants. They have alot of COI and the pageant fees are higher then they should be for the awards given. I know they had a state pageant a few months back and several Moms were very upset. -- Anonymous, 05:26:58 03/06/06 Mon [1]


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[> [> [> i have never been to a gng pageant where a doll was given.got a doll...we have done 2 in ky and 1 in ohio and placed runner up and got a 18" trophy and a crown...seems like to me you got beat by competition and want to blame directors and judges...remember when you attend a pag. you ARE paying for a judges opinion -- Anonymous, 05:28:48 03/06/06 Mon [1]


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[> [> [> [> If pageant moms would sent in their deposits then you will get awards -- late deposits are not good -- Anonymous, 05:29:53 03/06/06 Mon [1]


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[> elite sydney s grand mikayla d 0-3 mini chloe c 4 up mini bailey p -- ky pm, -- Anonymous, 05:31:02 03/06/06 Mon [1]


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[> CLICK IN -- Anonymous, 05:32:38 03/06/06 Mon [1]


AMEN TO THIS!!!! I used to direct a pageant system about 3 years ago -- Former and never again pageant director,

and pageant moms would say I want to do your system and we would like to see such and such awards given at your system so I go and find the big large crown and 4-6' 2-3 post trophies, custom banners and the works to give yet I would spend out money everytime and might get 3 deposit by the deadline. Then maybe a day or so before the pageant 10 moms contacted me wanting to do the pageant and would say I will pay at the door I promise I will be there so I show up at the pageant and pay the room rental fee, judges fee and haul my awards there to have maybe 7 contestants. Moms don't understand that you have to have a deposit in order to know how many awards to get or what to expect the turnout for your pageant. Most systems I see (expect nationals) only require a $15-30 deposit and this is just to ensure them that you will be attending the pageant. This is why I gave up as a director. I love pageantry and being involved but for this reason it has turned me against being a director. I now enjoy just attending and watching my niece and friends doing the pageants.


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[> Overalll great pageant -- Anonymous, 05:34:10 03/06/06 Mon [1]


If you were so upset then why didn't you talk to the directors before you left? If I recall, the emcee did say that if you had any questions concerning the pageant to be sure to come and talk to them. And they were still there when I left which was plenty of time to speak with them. Also, there was about 20 kids there, not 13. The awards were not cheap. Crowns were from 4 1/2" to 10" and trophies at least 2ft. to 5ft.


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[> Pageant was well organized. we will go back.There was nothing wrong with the pageant today. These ladies have always had a great system and we have been doing their pageants for over 4 years. Never had a problem. I have even Judged for them several times. These Ladies are honest and are Wonderful to all the kids that are in the pageant and the ones there to watch. They allowed ample time for any one that had any questions or comments, for them to be addressed by the judges or directors. It is rediculous to bash a pageant and the directors just because you were not happy with the title your child walked away with today. People you take a risk everytime you enter a pageant. You are Paying for the JUDGES Opinion of your child. Everyone has different opinions! With or Without all you upset pageant moms, Glitz and Glamour Pageants will always pull enough kids to go on with their systems. -- Anonymous, 05:35:27 03/06/06 Mon [1]


There was nothing wrong with the pageant today. These ladies have always had a great system and we have been doing their pageants for over 4 years. Never had a problem. I have even Judged for them several times. These Ladies are honest and are Wonderful to all the kids that are in the pageant and the ones there to watch. They allowed ample time for any one that had any questions or comments, for them to be addressed by the judges or directors. It is rediculous to bash a pageant and the directors just because you were not happy with the title your child walked away with today. People you take a risk everytime you enter a pageant. You are Paying for the JUDGES Opinion of your child. Everyone has different opinions! With or Without all you upset pageant moms, Glitz and Glamour Pageants will always pull enough kids to go on with their systems.


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[> Who judged this pageant? -- Anonymous, 05:36:31 03/06/06 Mon [1]

>This pageant system had a pageant in WV today and it
>was the worst pageant we have ever attended. The
>prelim cost around $170.00 and they gave cheap awards,
>and the pageant was a mess. The judges were clueless
>and lots of beautiful girls got cheated. Several
>parents here in WV do not want the system to ever come
>back to WV. If it does I know several of us will not
>attend. This system is a scam. I heard they have had
>problems in KY, OH, and now WV. Directors you should
>be ashamed of yourself. You were begging for
>contestants and not even 13 kids and look at the mess.
>I would tell anyone to beware and not get caught in
>this scam as we did here in WV.


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[> [> There has been COI with this system from the beginning. They have been known to buy used crowns and trophies from pageant moms and regive to others. -- Anonymous, 05:40:15 03/06/06 Mon [1]

>>This pageant system had a pageant in WV today and it
>>was the worst pageant we have ever attended. The
>>prelim cost around $170.00 and they gave cheap awards,
>>and the pageant was a mess. The judges were clueless
>>and lots of beautiful girls got cheated. Several
>>parents here in WV do not want the system to ever come
>>back to WV. If it does I know several of us will not
>>attend. This system is a scam. I heard they have had
>>problems in KY, OH, and now WV. Directors you should
>>be ashamed of yourself. You were begging for
>>contestants and not even 13 kids and look at the mess.
>>I would tell anyone to beware and not get caught in
>>this scam as we did here in WV.


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[> This was in expensive prelim for crap! Click in -- Anonymous, 11:39:47 03/06/06 Mon [1]

Entry Fee - 60.00
Outfit of Choice- 20.00
Overalls- 20.00
Elite Supreme- 20.00
Age Division Optionals (Shouldnt this be included in the entry fee?) 5.00 Per Child
Extra Photos- 5.00 Each
Door Admission 7.00 Each

So For a Family of Four to Attend this pageant yesterday-would cost 158.00

I've been to state pageants that charge that and give you MORE!


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[> I would never pay that much to enter a prelim. That is crazy. I heard they use their friends to judge their pagenats and they know all the kids. -- Anonymous, 20:08:38 03/07/06 Tue [1]

>This pageant system had a pageant in WV today and it
>was the worst pageant we have ever attended. The
>prelim cost around $170.00 and they gave cheap awards,
>and the pageant was a mess. The judges were clueless
>and lots of beautiful girls got cheated. Several
>parents here in WV do not want the system to ever come
>back to WV. If it does I know several of us will not
>attend. This system is a scam. I heard they have had
>problems in KY, OH, and now WV. Directors you should
>be ashamed of yourself. You were begging for
>contestants and not even 13 kids and look at the mess.
>I would tell anyone to beware and not get caught in
>this scam as we did here in WV.


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[> If you were so upset then why didn't you talk to the directors before you left? If I recall, the emcee did say that if you had any questions concerning the pageant to be sure to come and talk to them. And they were still there when I left which was plenty of time to speak with them. Also, there was about 20 kids there, not 13. The awards were not cheap. Crowns were from 4 1/2" to 10" and trophies at least 2ft. to 5ft. -- Anonymous, 20:09:41 03/07/06 Tue [1]

>This pageant system had a pageant in WV today and it
>was the worst pageant we have ever attended. The
>prelim cost around $170.00 and they gave cheap awards,
>and the pageant was a mess. The judges were clueless
>and lots of beautiful girls got cheated. Several
>parents here in WV do not want the system to ever come
>back to WV. If it does I know several of us will not
>attend. This system is a scam. I heard they have had
>problems in KY, OH, and now WV. Directors you should
>be ashamed of yourself. You were begging for
>contestants and not even 13 kids and look at the mess.
>I would tell anyone to beware and not get caught in
>this scam as we did here in WV.


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[> the winners of this pageant was off alot of good kids got robbed -- Anonymous, 20:10:57 03/07/06 Tue [1]

>This pageant system had a pageant in WV today and it
>was the worst pageant we have ever attended. The
>prelim cost around $170.00 and they gave cheap awards,
>and the pageant was a mess. The judges were clueless
>and lots of beautiful girls got cheated. Several
>parents here in WV do not want the system to ever come
>back to WV. If it does I know several of us will not
>attend. This system is a scam. I heard they have had
>problems in KY, OH, and now WV. Directors you should
>be ashamed of yourself. You were begging for
>contestants and not even 13 kids and look at the mess.
>I would tell anyone to beware and not get caught in
>this scam as we did here in WV.


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[> [> They have been known to cheat for certain big name kids. This system is a joke so beware. I feel sorry for people that paid $130.00 to enter this system. -- Anonymous, 20:12:00 03/07/06 Tue [1]

>>This pageant system had a pageant in WV today and it
>>was the worst pageant we have ever attended. The
>>prelim cost around $170.00 and they gave cheap awards,
>>and the pageant was a mess. The judges were clueless
>>and lots of beautiful girls got cheated. Several
>>parents here in WV do not want the system to ever come
>>back to WV. If it does I know several of us will not
>>attend. This system is a scam. I heard they have had
>>problems in KY, OH, and now WV. Directors you should
>>be ashamed of yourself. You were begging for
>>contestants and not even 13 kids and look at the mess.
>>I would tell anyone to beware and not get caught in
>>this scam as we did here in WV.


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[> [> [> I thought the elite was beautiful and awesome on stage. I knew she would win big. -- Anonymous, 20:13:14 03/07/06 Tue [1]

>>>This pageant system had a pageant in WV today and it
>>>was the worst pageant we have ever attended. The
>>>prelim cost around $170.00 and they gave cheap
>awards,
>>>and the pageant was a mess. The judges were clueless
>>>and lots of beautiful girls got cheated. Several
>>>parents here in WV do not want the system to ever
>come
>>>back to WV. If it does I know several of us will not
>>>attend. This system is a scam. I heard they have had
>>>problems in KY, OH, and now WV. Directors you should
>>>be ashamed of yourself. You were begging for
>>>contestants and not even 13 kids and look at the
>mess.
>>>I would tell anyone to beware and not get caught in
>>>this scam as we did here in WV.


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[> [> [> [> I thought the winners were strange -- Anonymous, 20:14:20 03/07/06 Tue [1]

>>>>This pageant system had a pageant in WV today and it
>>>>was the worst pageant we have ever attended. The
>>>>prelim cost around $170.00 and they gave cheap
>>awards,
>>>>and the pageant was a mess. The judges were clueless
>>>>and lots of beautiful girls got cheated. Several
>>>>parents here in WV do not want the system to ever
>>come
>>>>back to WV. If it does I know several of us will not
>>>>attend. This system is a scam. I heard they have had
>>>>problems in KY, OH, and now WV. Directors you should
>>>>be ashamed of yourself. You were begging for
>>>>contestants and not even 13 kids and look at the
>>mess.
>>>>I would tell anyone to beware and not get caught in
>>>>this scam as we did here in WV.


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[> [> [> [> [> We were there and the elite supreme was way off !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- Anonymous, 20:15:22 03/07/06 Tue [1]

>>>>>This pageant system had a pageant in WV today and
>it
>>>>>was the worst pageant we have ever attended. The
>>>>>prelim cost around $170.00 and they gave cheap
>>>awards,
>>>>>and the pageant was a mess. The judges were
>clueless
>>>>>and lots of beautiful girls got cheated. Several
>>>>>parents here in WV do not want the system to ever
>>>come
>>>>>back to WV. If it does I know several of us will
>not
>>>>>attend. This system is a scam. I heard they have
>had
>>>>>problems in KY, OH, and now WV. Directors you
>should
>>>>>be ashamed of yourself. You were begging for
>>>>>contestants and not even 13 kids and look at the
>>>mess.
>>>>>I would tell anyone to beware and not get caught in
>>>>>this scam as we did here in WV.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> I thought the elite was beautiful and did great. I do disagree with one of the supremes though. -- Anonymous, 20:17:05 03/07/06 Tue [1]

>>>>>>This pageant system had a pageant in WV today and
>>it
>>>>>>was the worst pageant we have ever attended. The
>>>>>>prelim cost around $170.00 and they gave cheap
>>>>awards,
>>>>>>and the pageant was a mess. The judges were
>>clueless
>>>>>>and lots of beautiful girls got cheated. Several
>>>>>>parents here in WV do not want the system to ever
>>>>come
>>>>>>back to WV. If it does I know several of us will
>>not
>>>>>>attend. This system is a scam. I heard they have
>>had
>>>>>>problems in KY, OH, and now WV. Directors you
>>should
>>>>>>be ashamed of yourself. You were begging for
>>>>>>contestants and not even 13 kids and look at the
>>>>mess.
>>>>>>I would tell anyone to beware and not get caught
>in
>>>>>>this scam as we did here in WV.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Pitty party!!! CRY -- Anonymous, 20:49:47 03/07/06 Tue [1]

>>>>>>>This pageant system had a pageant in WV today and
>>>it
>>>>>>>was the worst pageant we have ever attended. The
>>>>>>>prelim cost around $170.00 and they gave cheap
>>>>>awards,
>>>>>>>and the pageant was a mess. The judges were
>>>clueless
>>>>>>>and lots of beautiful girls got cheated. Several
>>>>>>>parents here in WV do not want the system to ever
>>>>>come
>>>>>>>back to WV. If it does I know several of us will
>>>not
>>>>>>>attend. This system is a scam. I heard they have
>>>had
>>>>>>>problems in KY, OH, and now WV. Directors you
>>>should
>>>>>>>be ashamed of yourself. You were begging for
>>>>>>>contestants and not even 13 kids and look at the
>>>>>mess.
>>>>>>>I would tell anyone to beware and not get caught
>>in
>>>>>>>this scam as we did here in WV.


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[> You must not have been there then. This little girl has won a lot and she looked and did great Sunday. You sound like a sore loser. Have fun at your pitty party!! -- Anonymous, 04:24:10 03/08/06 Wed [1]

>This pageant system had a pageant in WV today and it
>was the worst pageant we have ever attended. The
>prelim cost around $170.00 and they gave cheap awards,
>and the pageant was a mess. The judges were clueless
>and lots of beautiful girls got cheated. Several
>parents here in WV do not want the system to ever come
>back to WV. If it does I know several of us will not
>attend. This system is a scam. I heard they have had
>problems in KY, OH, and now WV. Directors you should
>be ashamed of yourself. You were begging for
>contestants and not even 13 kids and look at the mess.
>I would tell anyone to beware and not get caught in
>this scam as we did here in WV.


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[> [> Her congrats banner is on 22198 -- Anonymous, 19:03:26 03/08/06 Wed [1]

>>This pageant system had a pageant in WV today and it
>>was the worst pageant we have ever attended. The
>>prelim cost around $170.00 and they gave cheap awards,
>>and the pageant was a mess. The judges were clueless
>>and lots of beautiful girls got cheated. Several
>>parents here in WV do not want the system to ever come
>>back to WV. If it does I know several of us will not
>>attend. This system is a scam. I heard they have had
>>problems in KY, OH, and now WV. Directors you should
>>be ashamed of yourself. You were begging for
>>contestants and not even 13 kids and look at the mess.
>>I would tell anyone to beware and not get caught in
>>this scam as we did here in WV.


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[> [> [> That was the grand, not the elite -- Anonymous, 19:38:52 03/08/06 Wed [1]


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[> where are photos of the winners? -- Anonymous, 04:25:12 03/08/06 Wed [1]

>This pageant system had a pageant in WV today and it
>was the worst pageant we have ever attended. The
>prelim cost around $170.00 and they gave cheap awards,
>and the pageant was a mess. The judges were clueless
>and lots of beautiful girls got cheated. Several
>parents here in WV do not want the system to ever come
>back to WV. If it does I know several of us will not
>attend. This system is a scam. I heard they have had
>problems in KY, OH, and now WV. Directors you should
>be ashamed of yourself. You were begging for
>contestants and not even 13 kids and look at the mess.
>I would tell anyone to beware and not get caught in
>this scam as we did here in WV.


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[> [> Probably on their website. -- Anonymous, 04:06:46 03/09/06 Thu [1]

>>This pageant system had a pageant in WV today and it
>>was the worst pageant we have ever attended. The
>>prelim cost around $170.00 and they gave cheap awards,
>>and the pageant was a mess. The judges were clueless
>>and lots of beautiful girls got cheated. Several
>>parents here in WV do not want the system to ever come
>>back to WV. If it does I know several of us will not
>>attend. This system is a scam. I heard they have had
>>problems in KY, OH, and now WV. Directors you should
>>be ashamed of yourself. You were begging for
>>contestants and not even 13 kids and look at the mess.
>>I would tell anyone to beware and not get caught in
>>this scam as we did here in WV.


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[> [> [> Re: Probably on their website. -- Anonymous, 19:41:12 03/09/06 Thu [1]

>>>This pageant system had a pageant in WV today and it
>>>was the worst pageant we have ever attended. The
>>>prelim cost around $170.00 and they gave cheap
>awards,
>>>and the pageant was a mess. The judges were clueless
>>>and lots of beautiful girls got cheated. Several
>>>parents here in WV do not want the system to ever
>come
>>>back to WV. If it does I know several of us will not
>>>attend. This system is a scam. I heard they have had
>>>problems in KY, OH, and now WV. Directors you should
>>>be ashamed of yourself. You were begging for
>>>contestants and not even 13 kids and look at the
>mess.
>>>I would tell anyone to beware and not get caught in
>>>this scam as we did here in WV.


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[> Re: BEWARE OF GLITZ AND GLAMOUR -- Anonymous, 17:25:14 03/12/06 Sun [1]

>This pageant system had a pageant in WV today and it
>was the worst pageant we have ever attended. The
>prelim cost around $170.00 and they gave cheap awards,
>and the pageant was a mess. The judges were clueless
>and lots of beautiful girls got cheated. Several
>parents here in WV do not want the system to ever come
>back to WV. If it does I know several of us will not
>attend. This system is a scam. I heard they have had
>problems in KY, OH, and now WV. Directors you should
>be ashamed of yourself. You were begging for
>contestants and not even 13 kids and look at the mess.
>I would tell anyone to beware and not get caught in
>this scam as we did here in WV.
I have to agree with you that this pageant system should be reported to the Better Business Bureau!!


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[> Re: BEWARE OF GLITZ AND GLAMOUR -- Anonymous, 17:30:20 03/12/06 Sun [1]

This system is the worst system out there!! They will rip you off and lie to you. They even let big name kids go up on stage when they are supposed to be adding up the scores which takes at least 90 min. or more. They have to make sure they get who they want to win. They need reported to the Better Business Bureau!!


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[> [> Re: BEWARE OF GLITZ AND GLAMOUR -- Anonymous, 17:31:51 03/12/06 Sun [1]

>This system is the worst system out there!! They will
>rip you off and lie to you. They even let big name
>kids go up on stage when they are supposed to be
>adding up the scores which takes at least 90 min. or
>more. They have to make sure they get who they want to
>win. They need reported to the Better Business
>Bureau!! We have had horrible expereinces each time 2 out of three times. They give cheapo awards. I know the scores have to be fixed.


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