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Date Posted: 21:09:04 02/08/07 Thu
Author: Bodicea
Subject: Katra & Artemis-pages 186 to 187!!!

That ENTIRE conversation between them,and that little term "matisera" Kat uses,Artie's reaction when she says,"No,that's like my mother" or whatever,I am FIRMLY convinced that Artemis is Katra's mother,her father is Acheron,which makes her Grandma Apollymi! I know this is another one that many of us have pulled hair out and gnashed teeth over for years,and even though it was not totally,absolutely confirmed like the "Apollymi is Mommy" thing,it is enough for me-I am a total believer now,so if it turns out different,OMG,I bow and scrape and salute Sherri for getting away with the ultimate Jedi mind-trick.
There has to be a reason she has favored Kat above all her other Koris,and WHY on earth would Kat KNOW she was safe from death by Artemis if she wasn't her mother? Kat says she's a tool for both Artie & Apollymi,and while that may be the case NOW,I think,based on her behavior in Seize the Night,and her thoughts about Ash in this one (pages 106-107 reaffirm her love and devotion for him)that she is just waiting,biding her time until she can step in and throw her support solidly behind Ash when he is finally ready to break free of Artie & he needs it most.I think she will quite possibly make the ultimate sacrifice for him and give her own life if it becomes necessary.Since Artemis doesn't look likely to win the Mother of the Year award,it would not surprise me in the least to see her take her selfishness to the highest level and threaten and/or attempt to kill Katra for her interference,or use her as a last-ditch effort at keeping Ash by her side.I say attempt because of that little part about Kat telling Artemis that if they went to war,who did she think would win-THAT remark is utterly confident and secure in both words and tone.It makes total sense if Ash is indeed her father-because it's been said many times that his powers make a mockery of Artie's at the end of the day.Then there is that bit about Zebulon calling Kat a 'god of mixed heritage' on page 117.Yes,Atlantean and Greek would be mixed,wouldn't it? *G*

Also,if Artemis did all that,it would almost certainly destroy any lingering feelings of sympathy and regret that SHE did not end up as Ash's heroine,something a rather small number of fans,myself included,had once felt.She was such an a$$ in Darkside that I lost a LOT of sympathy for her then,but this little theory I have would be the final straw for me-her willing to sacrifice/use their own child in hatred against the very man she created that child with,just for her own selfish gain.But then,she already has,really,if you think about it.Yeah,she's a bitch,LOL.

Then there is page 289,where Kat calls Apollymi "Mibreiara"-I am guessing that "Matisera" and "Mibreiara" mean Mother and Grandmother,respectively.
Atlantean or Ancient Greek maybe.I googled them both,just for kicks,and the only thing that showed was "matisera" and it was in a sentence with language that looked maybe German or Dutch to me,not sure since I don't speak either,but have seen a bit of German writing here and there.I tried an online translator thing,but alas,nothing.So,I imagine it is something Sherri created in a moment of supreme evilness. *G*

Out of the whole book,the Kat/Artie thing is what floored me-I was INCREDIBLY excited,just about through the roof to read those pages.I read them at least 3 or 4 times in a row,I was so excited! I am really,really looking forward to the ultimate showdown between Ash & Artie,and I think Kat is going to play a big part in it,possibly be the Coup de grace to Artie's sick hold over Ash.

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[> Check out Sherrilyn's website. Go to Devil May Cry. Read the sneak preview...it is looking more look Kat is Ash's daughter and Artie is gonna be in big trouble. -- Gabmar, 09:13:11 02/09/07 Fri [1]


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[> [> Wrong place go to Acheron, clink on most popular. It is in the Legacy of Acheron. -- Gabmar, 09:52:09 02/09/07 Fri [1]


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[> [> [> go where? -- norma, 09:25:38 02/10/07 Sat [1]


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[> [> [> [> Sorry for not being very clear. Go to Sherrilyn Kenyon website and go to Acheron's profile. SK has added something I had not read before. There is a reference to Ash being sterile and Artemis telling him, she could fix that for him. Very interesting...proof for Katra being his daughter. -- Gabmar, 07:39:38 02/11/07 Sun [1]


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[> sorry but I am sticking to my gut instinct. Kat is Ash's heroine. In 'sins fo the night', she drools privately for him knowing she can never have him. It would be too icky to make them related. Sherrilyn is an expert at detail, I think that paragraph in Sins of the Night is foreshadowing Kat and Ash. -- Lucy, 12:39:11 02/12/07 Mon [1]


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[> I think Apollmiy is Ash's mommy -- Lucy, 12:45:43 02/12/07 Mon [1]


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[> Taking the ideal of Artemis the "Mommy" and Ash the "Daddy" of Kat, could work. However, I went back over Seize the Night (per Lucy's observation and I really want Kat to be Ash's Heroine). The scene with Kat and the stone Ash, this is where I really feel that Kat is the heroine not daughter. In the Dream Hunter, Kat's devotion and protectiveness was more daughter-ish (sister if you want to go there). NOW on to Bo theory about matisera. According to the Latin/Greek dictionary I looked at in Borders, Mat at the beginning,( sorry ladies please bear with my explaination) means mother, in womb (maternity), but also forms matron as in prison matron. Knowing that Apollymi is the "prisoner" and Artemis is sort of "prison matron". Kat's loyality is divided. In service to both. What do you think? -- gabmar, 12:16:20 02/13/07 Tue [1]


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[> [> I have to say that I hope Kat is Ash's heroine. It's going to take a HUGH woman to take all of the grief/pain taht Ash has endured. Knowing that Kat is a handmaiden to Artemis will be a HUGH obstacle if she is his heroine, too -- one I would like to see SK unravel. And you know this will burn Artemis, so it needs to be someone more powerful than her, I think. Kat is. -- Ana, 15:39:27 02/13/07 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> Yeah, either that, or she's his daughter. LOL! -- Ana, 15:40:07 02/13/07 Tue [1]


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[> [> I remember the scene from Seize,but even then,it felt like a daughter to me-esp. if she has been kept away from him for whatever reason.I just think she's way too obvious,Sherri is just not one for doing obvious,LOL. I LOVE that info you found at Borders,very interesting.I think Kat is divided b/c she is running errands &spying for them both(and the whole relatives thing),but Kat made it quite clear to Apollymi that she would not help in freeing her,I think the Destroyer took that really matter-of-fact,you know? I have to wonder,that if Apollymi ever DID get free-which I think might very well happen in the last book(*sob,bawl*) ,if she would be so bent on destroying her whole family again,including Ash,since we are now 110% that he is her son,and if Kat is family or even his HEA.Does she report on Artie's activities,and Ash's? I think Apollymi uses some sort of crystal ball like thing to view Ash,etc.,so it makes me wonder exactly what Kat does for Apollymi. -- Boadicea, 15:40:59 02/13/07 Tue [1]


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[> Didn't Artie "barter" (for lack of a better word) Kat to Appollomi? (Maybe in Seize? when Artie calls out for App. to help the stoen Ash I think it was.) So, Like Startra (or whatever the heck her name is) Kat could be/would be handmaiden to both later on down the line, right? -- Ronlyn, 16:55:07 02/13/07 Tue [1]


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[> [> In the Dream Hunter Artie brings up the fact that Kat went to Appollymi and that's why she doesn't trust her so I dont' think Artie is sharing because she wants to. I am with Bo, I think Kat is Artie's daughter and Appolymi's grand daughter. As for her motivations, I think Kat is biding her time and when the time is right she will be there by Ash's side. -- Leiha, 07:33:51 02/17/07 Sat [1]


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