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] Date Posted: 05:51:21 02/12/16 Fri Author Host/IP: c-71-236-182-111.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/71.236.182.111 Has anyone looked at who the judges are for the Miss Clark County Pageant? It appears that one of the judges have previously judged the young women running. For example, Gayle Beacock previously judged Ms. Cooper just a few years ago. Also, Nicola has a young daughter that is at the age she could run, isn’t that also against the MWSO rules? Maybe someone should look into this in order to avoid issues later down the road. Darrin, what do you think?? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Heather [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 06:28:24 02/13/16 Sat Author Host/IP: c-71-236-182-111.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/71.236.182.111 I know for a fact that MWSO reviews all of the judges for eligibility and there is no way they would let them judge if they either had a daughter that is still within the age limit to compete and certainly not allow someone to judge a contestant twice. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Julee [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 11:19:31 02/13/16 Sat Author Host/IP: c-71-236-182-111.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/71.236.182.111 That's correct, they do review the judges to ensure that no issues can be brought up post pageant. So I'm sure that MWSO reviewed who folks have judged previously and whether or not a judge has a daughter that is age eligible. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: No a fan [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 06:10:21 02/17/16 Wed Author Host/IP: NoHost/104.129.192.51 So the real question is what is MWSO doing about this?? [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Former MAO titleholder [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 23:31:07 02/18/16 Thu Author Host/IP: host7216800151144.direcway.com/72.168.144.151 >So the real question is what is MWSO doing about this?? I personally have had the same judge more than once over the years. Not someone I knew too well outside of the competition. We only have so many people that can and are willing to judge. Unless there is for some reason a judge would have bias on one girl over the other, such as a former voice coach or such it should not be a very big problem especially sense you said the judge had judged her serval years ago [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Dave [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 09:19:09 02/19/16 Fri Author Host/IP: c-71-236-182-111.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/71.236.182.111 Agree, and it's my understanding that one of the judges was a voice coach for contestants as well as judged her previously, when she won the title? [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: not a fan [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 08:22:27 02/23/16 Tue Author Host/IP: NoHost/104.129.192.100 So the question remains as far as what is MWSO going to do or will they even address this? Typically they don't, but we need to wait and see. The concerns are indeed real! [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: C'mon people .... [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:35:56 02/23/16 Tue Author Host/IP: 50-251-208-49-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/50.251.208.49 It's not like the girl in question isn't going to win, no matter who's judging. She has a real chance at taking state, let alone the local. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Joelle [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:38:52 02/23/16 Tue Author Host/IP: D-108-179-133-238.dhcp4.washington.edu/108.179.133.238 >I know for a fact that MWSO reviews all of the judges >for eligibility and there is no way they would let >them judge if they either had a daughter that is still >within the age limit to compete and certainly not >allow someone to judge a contestant twice. Sheri backous (is she the director now?) had also judged one of the girls before. But I think you're right it doesn't matter for this specific pageant because we all know who's going to win [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: It's just true. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:33:09 02/23/16 Tue Author Host/IP: 66-87-138-219.pools.spcsdns.net/66.87.138.219 The girl in question has a real shot at ANY local and will most likely be in the Top 5 or win the whole pageant in July. No matter what, she could move to a different local and blow most of those girls out of the water. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Seriously?? [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15:21:45 02/23/16 Tue Author Host/IP: NoHost/104.129.192.100 Your right, it's exactly why Sheri Backous changed her local rules to allow her to run again - so she has a chance at state. But honestly is that what we are all trying to promote? [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Joelle [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 09:33:26 02/25/16 Thu Author Host/IP: atg-respool.nat.uw.edu/205.175.98.211 >Your right, it's exactly why Sheri Backous changed her >local rules to allow her to run again - so she has a >chance at state. But honestly is that what we are all >trying to promote? All I gotta say is: I applaud the girls competing with her [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: anon [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 19:03:44 02/23/16 Tue Author Host/IP: 50-251-208-49-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/50.251.208.49 Trying to promote a fantastic young women, who has talent, has worked very hard to stay in shape, has proven to be very professional, and has run for several years for Miss WA, proving that she is dedicated to this goal ... not to mention she is freaking gorgeous ... I don't see the problem with promoting this young woman?? [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Bobbie [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:19:38 02/26/16 Fri Author Host/IP: NoHost/104.129.192.100 >Trying to promote a fantastic young women, who has >talent, has worked very hard to stay in shape, has >proven to be very professional, and has run for >several years for Miss WA, proving that she is >dedicated to this goal ... not to mention she is >freaking gorgeous ... I don't see the problem with >promoting this young woman?? The question is whether or not that's what this program is all about? Or, is it about educational opportunities and helping young women better themselves? Your approach sure sounds a bit narrow minded. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: anon [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 20:34:16 02/26/16 Fri Author Host/IP: c-98-203-170-109.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/98.203.170.109 Why can't it be all of the above? The contestant in question is a worthy candidate, and is solid representative of EVERYTHING MWSO and Miss America are. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: MWO Follower [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:59:50 02/23/16 Tue Author Host/IP: NoHost/107.85.104.22 >Has anyone looked at who the judges are for the Miss >Clark County Pageant? It appears that one of the >judges have previously judged the young women running. >For example, Gayle Beacock previously judged Ms. >Cooper just a few years ago. Also, Nicola has a young >daughter that is at the age she could run, isn’t that >also against the MWSO rules? Maybe someone should look >into this in order to avoid issues later down the >road. Darrin, what do you think?? i know that it doesn't matter if you have a daughter within competition age until they have signed up for a local or something. Until they do something of that nature there is no problem having a daughter within competition age [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Shirle [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 09:31:53 02/26/16 Fri Author Host/IP: NoHost/104.129.192.100 It also appears that the male judge is a business associate of Alicia's father, Bob Cooper. So who reviews the judges at MWSO and should they find this out prior to the pageant? [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Not a fan of Miss Clark County [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 20:15:55 02/27/16 Sat Author Host/IP: c-71-236-182-111.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/71.236.182.111 So all Alicia won, no surprise since the judges are all either personal friends of her parents (it appears that one of the judges is a business associate of her father), past judges and/or voice coaches. This is just insulting to the program. It should be fair and unbiased, not rigged by the board as this one clearly was. Shame on Sheri Backous and the Miss Clark Count Board. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Stop this [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 20:55:35 02/27/16 Sat Author Host/IP: NoHost/107.77.97.50 Alicia won because of skill and talent. She was by far the most prepared and experienced of the contestants. Stop trying to belittle her successes by pretending that other reasons led to her winning. She is successful and smart and that should not threaten you, but inspire you. Don't be a child and stomp on her to make yourself bigger. >So all Alicia won, no surprise since the judges are >all either personal friends of her parents (it appears >that one of the judges is a business associate of her >father), past judges and/or voice coaches. This is >just insulting to the program. It should be fair and >unbiased, not rigged by the board as this one clearly >was. Shame on Sheri Backous and the Miss Clark Count >Board. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: She's a great girl [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 21:39:42 02/27/16 Sat Author Host/IP: 66-87-139-55.pools.spcsdns.net/66.87.139.55 >So all Alicia won, no surprise since the judges are >all either personal friends of her parents (it appears >that one of the judges is a business associate of her >father), past judges and/or voice coaches. This is >just insulting to the program. It should be fair and >unbiased, not rigged by the board as this one clearly >was. Shame on Sheri Backous and the Miss Clark Count >Board. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Fan (shame on you jealous people) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 22:44:15 02/27/16 Sat Author Host/IP: 101-113-87-66.pools.cgn.spcsdns.net/66.87.113.101 First off whomever is posting inaccurate information should be ashamed of themselves. Get your facts correct before you try to stain something very special. Anyone that was at the Miss Clark County Competition knows that Alicia won hands down. Alicia is a beautiful girl inside and out. She is smart well spoken, talented, has a fantastic platform and embodies everything the Miss America program stands for. Please take a break from being negative out of jealousy. The MCC Board is fantastic and we wish them the very best! Alicia enjoy every minute of your journey. You deserve it! Food for thought; Aren't women suppose to build each other up not tear them down! [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Joelle [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 00:54:53 02/28/16 Sun Author Host/IP: atg-respool.nat.uw.edu/205.175.98.211 >First off whomever is posting inaccurate information >should be ashamed of themselves. Get your facts >correct before you try to stain something very >special. Anyone that was at the Miss Clark County >Competition knows that Alicia won hands down. Alicia >is a beautiful girl inside and out. She is smart well >spoken, talented, has a fantastic platform and >embodies everything the Miss America program stands >for. Please take a break from being negative out of >jealousy. The MCC Board is fantastic and we wish them >the very best! Alicia enjoy every minute of your >journey. >You deserve it! Food for thought; Aren't women suppose >to build each other up not tear them down! I agree she deserved it. However, I think people here are trying to citicize the politics involved unrighteously here. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Fan [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 07:14:33 02/28/16 Sun Author Host/IP: 66-87-113-101.pools.spcsdns.net/66.87.113.101 >>First off whomever is posting inaccurate information >>should be ashamed of themselves. Get your facts >>correct before you try to stain something very >>special. Anyone that was at the Miss Clark County >>Competition knows that Alicia won hands down. Alicia >>is a beautiful girl inside and out. She is smart well >>spoken, talented, has a fantastic platform and >>embodies everything the Miss America program stands >>for. Please take a break from being negative out of >>jealousy. The MCC Board is fantastic and we wish them >>the very best! Alicia enjoy every minute of your >>journey. >>You deserve it! Food for thought; Aren't women suppose >>to build each other up not tear them down! > >I agree she deserved it. However, I think people here >are trying to citicize the politics involved >unrighteously here. Joelle there are no "unrighteous politics" going on. What is going on are people trying to make issues and accusations unjustly. Why doesn't everyone just stop all the negativity and focus on the good. I for one hope all of the women running for Miss Washington have a wonderful experience. The MCC Board have hearts of Gold I wish them the very best and their two new title holders. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Joelle [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:21:06 02/28/16 Sun Author Host/IP: c-71-236-182-111.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/71.236.182.111 >>>First off whomever is posting inaccurate information >>>should be ashamed of themselves. Get your facts >>>correct before you try to stain something very >>>special. Anyone that was at the Miss Clark County >>>Competition knows that Alicia won hands down. Alicia >>>is a beautiful girl inside and out. She is smart >well >>>spoken, talented, has a fantastic platform and >>>embodies everything the Miss America program stands >>>for. Please take a break from being negative out of >>>jealousy. The MCC Board is fantastic and we wish >them >>>the very best! Alicia enjoy every minute of your >>>journey. >>>You deserve it! Food for thought; Aren't women >suppose >>>to build each other up not tear them down! >> >>I agree she deserved it. However, I think people here >>are trying to citicize the politics involved >>unrighteously here. >Joelle there are no "unrighteous politics" going on. >What is going on are people trying to make issues and >accusations unjustly. Why doesn't everyone just stop >all the negativity and focus on the good. I for one >hope all of the women running for Miss Washington have >a wonderful experience. The MCC Board have hearts of >Gold I wish them the very best and their two new title >holders. Hearts of gold, I don't think so. The politics do indeed matter when it comes down to running a fair process for all of the young women and sponsors. Obviously that's not something you care about. It's all about the crown and winning, not the process for getting - the end does not justify the means! [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Fan [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 08:20:57 02/29/16 Mon Author Host/IP: 66-87-113-101.pools.spcsdns.net/66.87.113.101 >>>>First off whomever is posting inaccurate information >>>>should be ashamed of themselves. Get your facts >>>>correct before you try to stain something very >>>>special. Anyone that was at the Miss Clark County >>>>Competition knows that Alicia won hands down. >Alicia >>>>is a beautiful girl inside and out. She is smart >>well >>>>spoken, talented, has a fantastic platform and >>>>embodies everything the Miss America program stands >>>>for. Please take a break from being negative out of >>>>jealousy. The MCC Board is fantastic and we wish >>them >>>>the very best! Alicia enjoy every minute of your >>>>journey. >>>>You deserve it! Food for thought; Aren't women >>suppose >>>>to build each other up not tear them down! >>> >>>I agree she deserved it. However, I think people here >>>are trying to citicize the politics involved >>>unrighteously here. >>Joelle there are no "unrighteous politics" going on. >>What is going on are people trying to make issues and >>accusations unjustly. Why doesn't everyone just stop >>all the negativity and focus on the good. I for one >>hope all of the women running for Miss Washington have >>a wonderful experience. The MCC Board have hearts of >>Gold I wish them the very best and their two new title >>holders. > >Hearts of gold, I don't think so. The politics do >indeed matter when it comes down to running a fair >process for all of the young women and sponsors. >Obviously that's not something you care about. It's >all about the crown and winning, not the process for >getting - the end does not justify the means! Joelle everyone went through the same process. Every woman that runs for a title is trying to win scholarships, promote their platform, support their community, etc and hopefully win a crown in the process. It is unfortunate that you need to promote negativity. I wish all the women andbyoung girls the best. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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