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Date Posted: 05:19:44 02/18/08 Mon
Author: Joan
Author Host/IP: ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net / 68.0.253.131
Subject: I don't believe that these fires are literal fires,
In reply to: catie 's message, "Re: The meaning of eternal/unquenchable" on 20:45:25 02/17/08 Sun

and I think that's where we are parting. The unquenchable fire is eternal--by definition and because it says that the punishment is eternal. Now obviously, to me anyway :), this isn't a literal fire. This is just one of the many literary techniques the writers used.

Joan

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[> [> [> Joan -- Catie, 06:51:41 02/18/08 Mon [1] (h78.8.28.71.ip.alltel.net/71.28.8.78)

Remember, here on earth God will set up his new Jerusalem, heaven. He can not stand in the presence of sin. Fire purifies, cleanses. The holiness of God, the very sight of him will cause a pure fire to burn away sin. John in Revelations saw as it were "a lake of fire". If all sin is being destroyed and you were trying to describe what you saw, you might use that term, "a lake of fire." for all sin is being consumed at once. We know that death, hell, and Satan, all sin, are cast into the lake of fire.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Joan -- Joan, 15:00:37 02/18/08 Mon [1] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)

What is eternal punishment?

It sounds as if you're saying that those "in Hell" will have their sins "burned away". I don't believe that. I think that the eternal punishment is eternal seperation from God. Again, I'm not talking about literal fire. I still think that's where our views start to diverge. It seems that you think of this fire as a literal thing.

Joan

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