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Date Posted: 11:35:45 09/17/07 Mon
Author: Johnny Reb
Subject: Re: Zeitgeistmovie
In reply to: iteo 's message, "Re: Zeitgeistmovie" on 21:22:44 09/16/07 Sun

iteo, i have bookmarked your website. the amount of information is incredible and i want to research deeper on the links you mentioned (btw, some links are not depicted correctly, the end is missing as it is outside the column). thank you for so much infomation!

i am already thinking of starting my own website as there is not enough room on this forum to explain my view of the world - as if i would care if the world is interested in my views :-)

the mayan calendar fascinates me even more now. funny enough, years ago i bought a colorful handmade modern one while in méxico just for decoration purposes.

there is an ancient calendar about which not too much is known, the golden hat

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_hat">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_hat</a>

it could be of interest to you, even if you do not speak german, to view the same topic on the german version of wikipedia

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldhut">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldhut</a>

and see the large layout goldhut-kalenderskala (golden hat calendar scale) which is not included in the english version

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/0/06/Berliner_Goldhut-Kalenderfunktion1.JPG">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/0/06/Berliner_Goldhut-Kalenderfunktion1.JPG</a>

parts of the hat have been decoded as lunisolar scale by scientists in 2000. i'll give you a short translation of the terms used:

berliner golden hat calender scale: chronometry in
... solar sun-months at 30.4369 days each
... synodical moon-months at 29.5305 days each
zone = zone
summe = sum
solare monate = solar months
synod. monate = synodical months
sollwert = nominal value
fehler = deviation

even if the nebra sky disk

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebra_skydisk">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebra_skydisk</a>

which was dug out of the soil in 1997 or '98 is much younger than the hat, it shows that the stars were of strong importance to humans until astrology, magician's hats and other gods were condemned by the roman administrators of christianity.

the sun chariot

<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trundholm_sun_chariot">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trundholm_sun_chariot</a>

could have been sort of a calendar also as one side displays the night, the other the day.

well, you wanted to hear my story. after having been shit into this world at the end of the nineteenfifties i grew up in a "christian" postwar family where i made experiences which made me lose all trust in my parents and my faith in their god at an early age. later, back in 1980, i lived and worked in southeast asia where i experienced terrible scenes in the refugee camps. i was a hardcore atheist by then and especially the first-hand reality of atrocities committed by humans destroyed what was left over of my last belief in mankind.

one day, my landlord invited me to her husband's birthday party where i was the only foreigner amongst locals, a great honor to me. their estate was way out of town, almost one hour by car away from where i lived. after having spent an amusing afternoon and night of eating (way too much), drinking (little) and discussions (many) with those friendly people i decided to return home. it was dawning.

i entered the taxi which i had ordered in a relaxed mood. but the hours of pleasure i had just spent couldn't wipe out what i had seen within these last months. i and my hosts lived in a (comparedly) secure world compared to the hapless humans which had been vicimized by the wars and its aftermath. i understood that i was privileged and already had had very much luck in my troubled young life.

we were driving straight into the sun when it came up like a huge orange ball. the road was almost clear of traffic. then i spotted a lonely buddhist monk in his orange robe walking on the shoulder of the road, barefoot. we had just passed him when i felt the strong urge to thank somebody for all the luck i had had in life so far. i made the driver stop immediately and wait for me to return.

i walked back a few hundred yards and approached the monk from behind. i called "excuse me, sir!" in the local language as i had no idea how to adress such a man. i just knew that the locals respect these monks very much. although i did not exactly believe in buddhism i had the feeling that it would do no harm to him or myself to give him a donation as the locals do.

i just wanted to thank somebody, and this man seemed the right representative of a non-destructive and non-missionizing religion to me.

he turned around and looked me in the eye, a little surprised, with a very quiet, kind and deep look. i hardly dared to get closer. i bowed low to him because i felt a power, a positive authority which he exuded which i could neither explain nor elude. i felt my tears come and did not know why.

he put forth his hand with a little tray, much like a small tambourine. i grabbed in my pocket and pulled out all the bills i had. it was the equivalent of roughly one hundred dollars which i put on the tray without hesitation.

unlike many of the locals who want to "bribe" the monks, i.e. to pay them to pray for them that these and those things will go right, i just wanted to show my gratitude. it was not his obligation to accept the donation; i was expected to thank him if he would.

it is very difficult to describe what it was what i suddenly felt. i experienced a strange physical sensation when i got that close to the monk. as if he eradiated something, a strong current came over my whole body like a wave. it was as if he warmed my inner self with sunshine. i was overwhelmed, with emotions and this physical sensation.

he looked me straight in the eyes while he took my donation. upon that i felt a rush of joy so strong i could have embraced him and the whole world. i thanked him with another low bow in the traditional local manner. he smiled in a very calm way. i turned around because i felt my tears come up again and walked back to the taxi. i felt like my soul had slipped into a warm bathtub.

by the way, i have paid the taxi driver upon arrival after fetching money from home. :-)

i have never forgotten this experience and i have read quite some scriptures over the years but more out of general interest as i am curious. a few years ago i underwent a psychotherapy after i had tried to kill myself after having been abandoned in a vicious manner by my partner. my therapist had her own spiritual base in zen-buddhism which reflects in her style of therapy, and i learnt a lot about myself, so much that i am stabile now.

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