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Date Posted: 15:06:57 08/26/09 Wed
Author: muppetmel
Subject: Oh and ...
In reply to: muppetmel 's message, "I haven't met one single conservative poster ..." on 15:05:42 08/26/09 Wed

... are we still shoveling Mary Jo Kopechne off on the dustbin of history, or does she rate a mention, given that it was just the 40th anniversary of her death by drowning.

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[> [> [> [> [> Tru dat, Muppy!! r.e. Mary Jo Kopechne -- Katt, 19:06:54 08/26/09 Wed [1]

Just celebrated hubby's 40th and we had "Stuff that happened in 1969" all over the walls and that whole Chappaquidick thingy was right up there.

I'm not saying that Ted Kennedy or any of the Kennedys did not do great things for our country. But were they the American Royalty that the media portrayed them to be? Hells no! He was throw out of Harvard for cheating and none of them could keep their dick in their pants but that doesn't bother Dems. See: Clinton, William J.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> I hope the entire Kopechne family finally has peace -- Jeannine, 21:03:21 08/26/09 Wed [1]

they deserve it.

I have a lot of thoughts about Ted, but I will keep them to myself for now.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> by the time we got to Woodstock we were half a million strong -- jayjay, 23:55:44 08/28/09 Fri [1]

happy belated birthday Katt's super extraordinary hero husband !!!

xoxox

wow.... time flies


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[> [> [> [> [> I'm not shoveling anything -- DizzyDeb, 06:15:05 08/27/09 Thu [1]

And, yeah, I know that leaves me wide open for ridicule.

However, I said my prayers for Mary Jo's peace 40 years ago. Unless I'm mistaken, nobody else was in that car or a witness to the accident. I don't know exactly what happened or what state of mind Teddy was in. Was I disappointed in his actions? You bet!

But the work for the public good the Kennedy family has, and continues to do for the American people is extreme. Teddy's service in the US Senate is nearly unmatched and he will be missed. His dedication to trying to get basic health for all Americans is amazing and I hope that some kind of reform will be voted through in his memory.

As for "the Dems" being bothered by President Clinton's sins, I was. Just as I am by the Reps' sins. See: Foley, Mark; Sanford, Mark; Craig, Larry.

And, yes, I know that there are just as many Democrats with shady backgrounds. Please DO NOT take this as a challenge to see which party has the most idiots in it.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Ted Kennedy was very polarizing -- Jeannine, 07:46:59 08/27/09 Thu [1]

and had just as many failings as successes. He was also the baby brother of Bobby and Jack - not an easy legacy to live with.

Personally, I do not think that health care should be pushed through because he is dead. We are very much in need of health care reform, but how do people think we will gain control over our health care by surrendering control to the government?

I am attaching what I consider to be a very good article by Susan Estridge, a Kennedy staffer about the late Senator.

http://www.creators.com/opinion/susan-estrich.html?columnsName=ses


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Ted Kennedy was very polarizing -- DizzyDeb, 08:05:12 08/27/09 Thu [1]

Thank you, Jeannine. That was a very good article. I certainly never meant to imply that health care reform should be rushed through simply because he is dead. Just that when it happens, it's in his honor. I attach a Newsweek article from July that was incredible. This man was as flawed - and possibly more so - than any person. But he also worked with his family and especially his brothers to bring civil rights legislation to the forefront and worked tirelessly to try to get some kind of health care reform enacted that would insure that everyone could get quality health care. I'm sad he did not accomplish that in his lifetime.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/207406


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