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Date Posted: 05:54:36 10/24/08 Fri
Author: scooter
Subject: The financial situation

Today, another bad day on Wall Street. I feel very angry and frustrated about this situation. I want someone to be held accountable. Has anyone been fired, resigned, apologized, anything? How can we find ourselves in this mess, then bail out these banks, insurance companies, and other institutions who completely messed everything up? All of the executives who made all these bad decisions should no longer have jobs. I'm not an expert by any means, but from everything I've read, this could have been avoided. I'm pissed off and the feeling isn't going away anytime soon.

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[> I hear you... -- doni, 20:35:42 10/24/08 Fri [1]

always makes me think of the band, 'Rage Against The Machine'...

I wonder if Obama will make it to the White House...

Peeps who have Obama signs on their cars, or in their yards are getting vandalized. The news showed a UT student's car, after she came home from a party in Wimberley (Republican bedroom community about 30 minutes away). Someone threw a brick through her (formerly very nice) car window, and spray painted "Obama" in red letters on the side of the car because she had Obama stickers on her bumper, and street signs in the car to give out.

I'm afraid there are just too many hateful rednecks still alive and well in America. One of them is going to take Obama out.

It's been barely a decade since a black man was dragged to death near the Louisiana border (Jasper, Tx http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Byrd,_Jr. ). The rest of the 'civilized' world probably can't comprehend that kind of mindless hate, and it sickens me...but there are still peeps around (even in my extended family, I am ashamed to admit)who hate like that.


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[> [> oops tangent... -- doni, 21:32:08 10/24/08 Fri [1]

I meant to preface this with what I'm afraid will happen to the U.S. if McCain is elected...He would carry through with 95% of Bush's fiscal policy which was decidedly unsound.


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[> [> Now I've seen everything... -- doni, 21:45:11 10/24/08 Fri [1]

Obama Pictures and McCain Pictures
see Sarah Palin pictures


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[> Here it is the opposite -- Steph, 09:12:06 10/25/08 Sat [1]

Mcain signs,what few there are the ones that get vandalized or stolen....
So much for freedom of speech huh? I guess it means "as long as you think like the rest of us"
I see very few cars with signs, people are fearful someone will vandalize their cars, it's so sad.
I am so looking forward to this election being over, I want our country to move forward. I want us to learn how to behave respectfully to each other. I want us to be able to put aside all this hatred and start coming up with solutions to fix this mess we are in. Americans are capable of great things when we set our minds to it.
We need to be open to change,what we are doing now just isn't working.


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[> [> Me too, Steph... -- doni, 16:12:26 10/25/08 Sat [1]

. I want us to learn how to behave respectfully to each other. I want us to be able to put aside all this hatred and start coming up with solutions to fix this mess we are in.

The radically off-balance state of the country seems to be putting everyone in a foul mood.


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[> [> It is very sad -- Terry, 04:54:41 10/26/08 Sun [1]

I'd like to put an Obama sticker on my car but I'm afraid someone would key it. I did have a sign in my yard but someone stole it. Ah well, it's almost over and for once I do think the good guys are going to win.


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[> [> [> Terry, respectfully, your post illustrates the problem -- Jeannine, 09:11:23 10/26/08 Sun [1]

You end it by saying the "good guys" are going to win. As you are an Obama supporter, one must assume that the Dems are the "good guys" - thus, McCain supporters are the "bad guys".

Assuming that people who disagree with you are bad is the problem. No matter who wins, how are we ever going to come together with that attitude?


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[> [> [> [> Re: Terry, respectfully, your post illustrates the problem -- Terry, 14:02:05 10/27/08 Mon [1]

I see your point and I will concede it was an "off the cuff" type of remark.

But I do believe Bush and Cheney really are "the bad guys" and by that, I think these two men in particular are evil. Not just bad at their jobs but evil on a personal level. Run over kittens with a lawn mower evil, IMO.

I am not convinced McCain is "evil" in the same sense. While I don't agree with his current politics, I did agree with a good bit of what he was saying when he campaigned for the nomination in 2000 or 2004 (can't recall right now). Back when he still supported a woman's right to choose and was not spouting off about changing the US Constitution to ban abortion.

I do believe with all of my heart that if Obama wins; very few McCain supporters will be willing to come together. Would that be the case if McCain won? I don't know. People are pretty pissed off and unfortunately for McCain the GOP has had almost all of the power the last 8 years. I think it is easy for most people to blame him by association. Which is obviously not fair but I think it is almost impossible for McCain to overcome that and he had an uphill climb from day 1 because of it.

Should I apologize? I have such a bad headache again today I can't tell if I've offended you. I hope not, it's never my intention when I respond to your posts.


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[> [> [> [> [> No apology is necessary -- Jeannine, 15:09:10 10/27/08 Mon [1]

I am just so tired of all of this. I need it to be over.


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[> [> To Steph .... -- muppetmel, 11:43:39 10/26/08 Sun [1]

Bravo! Bravo! Well said. The most sensible, balanced thing I've read throughout this election just about at any time.


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[> [> Speaking of signs... -- JennyJenkins: Canadian election is done already, 19:50:52 10/27/08 Mon [1]

In our riding the Conservative cadidate's helpers took down the other two parties' posters down every night, and threw them down a ditch, but we didn't give up, once this started happening, we found those signs and every time we walked our dog, we took our stapler with us and put up those signs again.

Just in case you are wondering how I know that it was the Conservative: some of their volunteers were charged with vandalism.

Our election lasted just over 30 days, and even that seemed too long for some... because at the begining the Conservatives had a prospective majority in their view, and that's why they called the election, but they blew that majority with some ill advised strategy, and ended up with another minority, ha, ha...


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