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Date Posted: 07:30:39 02/11/10 Thu
Author: Joel to Steve
Subject: Re: Joel and Luke--- KYLE and SEAN help!
In reply to: Steve 's message, "Joel and Luke--- KYLE and SEAN help!" on 20:41:38 02/08/10 Mon

Hey buddy, how you doing Big Brother?
I'll answer some of your questions and then Kyle and Sean will respond as we're riding to school together and I told them you left us message.

Steve, I guess I didn't make it clear about the McDonalds incident. After the game our entire team stopped by bus with out coaches to eat. It was a reward for us for a change to have a chance to eat at McDonalds. We didn't do it other times this season, but Coach wanted us to have chance to eat out after the game, and it won't be the last probably this season, so sorry I didn't make it clear. I've stopped with other teams & Coaches doing this other times.
Luke, me and a few guys ate in the Playland as we ran out of room for everyone in the dining room with other patrons there too, and yes someone should probably have went to get coach undected, but thought if a fight started they'd miss it! That's why that dude did what he did to try to fight/provoke me because we were away from the rest of other team members and coaches.
Luke thinks I can be a fighter when I need to be, but the truth is fighting would NOT have settled anything, and would be stupid and I was NOT scared of that dude, but knew it was wrong if I did fight him, could be benched on the team, kicked off or worse. Luke was not thinking, and couldn't stand to see that dude do what he did and me back down to want "kick his ass!"
This whole thing is a nightmare, or seems to be now. Luke doesn't want to talk to me, I've tried and KYle and Sean have to, so we're giving Luke a few days to think things through before we get serious to try to settle this mess.
I don't want to lose Luke as a friend or "little brother!"
I want to know who these "guys are" that told Luke to do what he is doing to me, giving him advice, etc., but he won't say who these guys are, if there are any.
Steve, I guess the idea to talk with my dad and have a father/son talk backfired! I didn't expect it to, and I guess I wanted to reassure myself that I did the right think while provoked at McDonalds from that dude and handling things with Luke later on.
I have no idea what my dad and Luke's dad talked about when I was left in my room and I didn't even know my dad was making a phone call to Luke's dad. I guess my dad just wanted to see Luke and his dad's side of the incident. NOT that I was lying, and I wasn't. but Luke could have handled things better and I sure could have. I was totally surprised what unfolded!
My dad and I gave a great relationship, tells me "let's talk with you (Joel) have a problem!" I guess my dad went off half-cocked and didn't handle things good or he thought he was and Luke's dad did too.
Yes, I guess the matter should have been CLOSED after I chewed out Luke and paddled him Jan. 22, but then I was thinking was it my responsiblity to to punish Luke for what he did, etc? and then I questioned my actions.
I found out that my dad sure can paddle for real, and it wasn't nothing like that paddling I asked for Dec. 6, so my dad really showed his dad authority and I expected him to. It was confusing when both dad's wanted Luke and me to paddle each other for punishment, and Luke and I couldn't question them, and for sure they would say, "who's the fathers here!"
So I guess both dad's misjudged and over reacted?
I think you will agree, am I right?
You are Right, Steve, the situation is NOT any different then when us guys do the sports bets, motivation swats, and birthday swats, etc. I did WRONG talking to my dad, I should NOT have questioned myself and went to my dad for paddling Luke!
I guess I misunderstood you, Rick and Dave, thinking you meant our dad's should help resolve matters among us guys and not for us to resolve them because we couldn't handle them. From now on all us guys will resolve matters concerning us ourselves and make sure it is the right way so nobody gets hurt or cause trouble that parents have to step in to settle or resolve a mess and we will take responsibility!
I know I will, Steve!
I will try my darnest to win over Luke as a friend/buddy and a Little Brother, IF he will have me! I never wanted it to stop. He started the crap, saying he got a "bad deal" and yes he got pissed off about it, which I can't understand why he didn't talk it over with me and we could have talked with Kyle and Sean as a group and even make a pact!
So Steve, I'll see how this plays out. Here's Kyle and Sean.

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Re: Joel and Luke--- KYLE and SEAN help! -- Kyle & Sean to Steve, 08:08:00 02/11/10 Thu