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Date Posted: 18:24:35 01/25/10 Mon
Author: Dave to Joel
Subject: Re: Joel Avoids Fight/Luke Later Paddled
In reply to: Joel to Dave 's message, "Re: Joel Avoids Fight/Luke Later Paddled" on 07:32:21 01/25/10 Mon

> I guess like you getting a flu shot and still getting
>the flu this season didn't help you, and I've found
>the same for me. I've had the flu since late Saturday
>afternoon, and haven't gotten any better. Like you,
>been in bed and close to the bathroom.

HEY THERE LITTLE BRO, SORRY TO HEAR THAT OLD BUG BIT YOU. MAYBE THAT'S A BIG PART OF YOUR OFF GAME FRIDAY NIGHT IF IT WAS STARTING TO WORK ON YOU. KEEP YOUR LITTLE ASS IN BED AND DO WHAT YOU ARE TOLD TO SHAKE IT DAMN FAST.

> Hasn't helped so I guess a visit to the doctors is
>next in line this morning for me, so no school for me
>today and if I get better I can attend the hoop game
>Tuesday but I won't be allowed to play missing
>practice today as a school rule, but could sit the
>bench to cheer the team on.

YOU GET OUT TO THAT TUESDAY NIGHT GAME ONLY IF YOU ARE 100% WELL. IT TOOK ME SEVERAL DAYS TO JUST GET OUT OF BED & THEN THAT WAS TO PUSH FLUIDS, TAKE MEDS & TROT TO THE JOHN. NO SENSE GETTING OUT TOO SOON & RELAPSE OR SHARE THE BUG WITH OTHERS.

> Then I have to get the flu and can't shake it. I
>guess that's my punishment for the way things have
>been going for me. A WAKE UP CALL TO JOEL, FROM GOD!

JOEL, THE WAKE UP CALL FROM GOD WASN'T THE FLU. IT WAS TO PROVE YOU AS THE FINE YOUNG MAN AND FRIEND I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW IN THIS 'MASTERPIECE' OF HEARTFELT WORDS.

> Let me explain more about the incident at McDonalds.
>That took place away from the area where our Coaches
>were at eating. They were in the main dining room,
>and most of the team was there, all except me, Luke
>and few others who took up dining (don't laugh) in the
>enclosed PLayland area as there was no more room for
>us to be with rest of the team because of other dining
>room patrons, so with that it made a perfect situation
>for that dude from the winning other team we played to
>confront me,try to make me say I was a less of a
>basketball player then I was and get Luke going to
>want to get me to fight him when he saw I wouldn't do
>it on my own.

NOT LAUGHING LITTLE BRO--PLAYLAND IS COOL. IT WAS ONE OF MY HOMES AWAY FROM HOME AND BET YOU GOT GOOD MEMORIES TOO.

> Once that dude tried to get me going, he tried to get
>Luke to get me going and that's what Luke did. I'm
>surprised Luke didn't try to take him on when I didn't
>and he commented later he wanted to seeing how I
>wouldn't even after I told him it wouldn't have
>accomplished anything. That would have been a mistake
>to fight that dude, me or Luke and I wouldn't have let
>that happened and didn't.

I'M PROUD YOU DIDN'T LET ANYTHING HAPPEN. LUKE SHOULD KNOW YOU BETTER AS A FRIEND THAN TO PUSH IT LIKE HE DID AND THE OTHER DUDE IS THE SHITHEAD FOR TRYING TO START SOMETHING.

> From your comments, are you saying we should have
>went to Coach and told him what happened right then
>and there, even if the dude was still in McDonalds?
> Maybe we should have, but wouldn't it have looked
>like two "little boys" going to tell on him to get him
>in trouble for something we couldn't handle, and
>tought we had?

YES, POSSIBLY WALK AWAY OR AT LEAST KEEP YOUR COOL AND IGNORE THE LITTLE JERK AND ONCE HE SAW HE COULDN'T RILE YOU, HE'D GO AWAY & WHAT HE THINKS IS WORTHLESS. LATER ON THE BUS OR BACK AT SCHOOL, THEN YOU & LUKE ASK TO TALK TO COACH. I THINK HE WOULD'VE ADMIRED YOU BOTH AND THEN LEAVE IT TO HIS JUDGEMENT AS TO HOW IT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED WITH THE OTHER TEAM'S COACH/SCHOOL.

> As for giving Luke the paddling later on, I thought I
>was doing the right thing, as "big brother" to teach
>him a lesson. At first Luke wasn't agreeing it was the
>right thing to do, but he said it was later on and
>glad I cared enough to do it to make him think twice
>not to put me or him in a sitaution like that again.

YOUR INTENTIONS WERE GOOD JOEL AND NO DOUBT LUKE DESERVED THE PADDLING AND AS A BIG BRO/FRIEND THING ITS OK BUT IT IS NEITHER YOUR PLACE NOR ABILITY TO DISCIPLINE LUKE & LUKE SHOULD BE MAN ENOUGH TO TELL COACH WHAT HIS REACTION WAS AT MCDONALD'S & LEAVE TO COACH TO DISCIPLINE IF HE THOUGHT IT NEEDED. MAYBE AN ASS CHEWING OR BENCHED FOR A GAME WOULD DO LUKE GOOD.

> Didn't Rick ever give you a paddling when you did
>something wrong that he knew you did, instead of
>telling your dad to give you a paddling instead, that
>Rick thought he could teach you a lesson and give you
>a less severe one as a brother to help teach you?

RICK & I DID BROTHERLY BUTT WHUPPINS OVER THINGS THAT WERE DARES, PAYBACKS, BIRTHDAYS ETC AS WE DID WITH BUDDIES. IT WAS NOT RICK'S PLACE OR DESIRE TO REPLACE MOM OR DAD IF I NEEDED MY ASS KICKED FOR SCREWING UP. HAVING NO BROTHER, YOU MAY NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND THE AWESOME MOMENT WHEN YOU SEE OR OVERHEAR THE OTHER GETTING HIS ASS WHIPPED. I DON'T THINK I WOULD HAVE EVER TAKEN A PADDLING FROM RICK AS A SERIOUS CORRECTIVE PUNISHMENT. WHEN RICK OR A BUDDY SWATTED MY BUTT IT WAS A GAME OR FUN.

> I thought I was helping Luke, like a brother, to
>give him the paddling and hope he would see what he
>did wrong in egging on that player to want to fight me
>and egg me on to fight the player. I guess I
>shouldn't have then?

INTENTIONS GOOD JOEL. RESULTS NOT WHAT WAS NEEDED. THINK OF IT THIS WAY--YOU GOT THE SCHOOL PADDLE LAST SPRING; THE PADDLE FROM BUDS OVER LOST GAMES/SCORES/BETS; HAD TO TEST OUT THE STRAP AT THE FARM--NONE MET YOUR BASIC NEED OF A REAL BUTT PADDLING FROM YOUR DAD UNTIL IT HAPPENED. YOU KNEW INSIDE WHERE IT COUNTS WHAT WAS 'REAL' AND WHAT WAS FUN AND GAMES. THE SCREWING UP ALL 4 HAVE DONE NEEDS REAL CORRECTION THAT MEANS SOMETHING AND AT 17/18, IT'S NOT A FRIEND SQUEALING BUT MAN ENOUGH TO STAND UP & TAKE THE CONSEQUENCE YOU EARNED. THAT MAKES A BOY INTO A MAN.

> Dave, I don't think your a hard ass at all to care
>about me.

I DO CARE JOEL. IF I HAD A LITTLE BROTHER, I'D WISH HIM TO BE ABOUT AS COOL AS YOU ARE. I CARE ABOUT LUKE, SEAN AND KYLE TOO.

>I wouldn't blame you one bit to write me off as a
>person. I don't deserve to be called a friend, buddy
>or "Little Brother" of yours now.

IF YOU'LL KEEP ME AS A BIG BRO, I'LL TAKE MY CHANCES WITH YOU AS MY LITTLE BRO--DEAL DUDE??

> I really appreciate you helping me over the last few
>months in life, helping me find myself and pushing me
>to have more courage then I've ever had in life to
>accomplish a few things that WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED
>I believe, and for one getting myself to get my dad to
>give me my first paddling in life! You helped me get
>that, when nobody else did before now. That was
>something Kyle could never motivate me to do. Thanks,
>Dave.

NO, THANK YOU JOEL FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO FEEL LIKE A BIG BROTHER AND SHARE LESSONS I LEARNED GROWING UP HAVING A BIG BRO TO TALK TO. NOW AS FOR THE PADDLING FROM YOUR DAD, THERE IS NO RULE THAT SAYS IT HAS TO STOP WITH THE FIRST. NOT THAT I'M SAYING YOU NEED ONE BUT FOR 17 YEARS YOU'VE SAID YOU & DAD COULD TALK EVEN IF IT DIDN'T RESULT IN A PADDLING GROWING UP. IF YOU'VE SEEN ANY TRUTH IN ANY OF WHAT I'VE SAID, WHY NOT TALK IT OVER WITH YOUR DAD--CLEAR YOU CONSCIENCE IF NEEDED & ASK FOR ADVICE HOW TO GET BACK ON TRACK. YOU'RE NOT FAR OFF TRACK JOEL SO JUST A NUDGE MAYBE NEEDED. IF YOU & DAD THEN COME TO THE CONCLUSION THE PADDLE IS A SOLUTION, SO BE IT, BUT HE MIGHT CONCLUDE JOEL IS AN ADMIRABLE YOUNG MAN WHO'S BENEFITTED JUST FROM A TALK. NOW DON'T TELL ME DUDE, IT WOULD UPSET YOU GREATLY IF KYLE, SEAN OR LUKE GOT A REAL ASS PADDLING RATHER THAN A BUDDY SWAT IF NEEDED--BETTER THAT DUDE THAN SOMETHING WORSE HAPPENING FOR GOING TOO FAR.

> Other things have happened since then, and some of
>them you've listed in your message that have ballooned
>out of control, and wondered why and what the answer
>is to why they've happened?

YOU SAYING MORE STUFF SINCE MCDONALD'S?

> There is no excuse for my actions.
> In other words, I haven't been FOCUSED like I should
>be as a person, and trained as an athlete, but been
>blind in my eyes to not see what was happening with me
>and my friends. I guess with what's been going on I
>don't even have the right to call them buddies.

GET OUT OF THE DEPRESSED & PUT DOWN MODE JOEL. YOUR BUDDIES ARE GOOD DUDES & SO ARE YOU. EVERY GUY NEEDS AN ASS KICKING FROM TIME TO TIME. WHAT YOU WROTE HERE IN THIS REPLY TELLS ME WHEN THE CHIPS ARE DOWN, JOEL CAN RISE TO THE OCCASION. LET'S START OVER--PUT PAST IN PAST & JOEL MOVE FORWARD BEING THE HONOR ROLL/TOP JOCK DUDE WE BOTH KNOW HIM CAPABLE TO BE. BET KYLE, LUKE & SEAN WILL KICK IN TOO IF YOU LEAD BY EXAMPLE.

> I have no right to ask you to forgive me for what
>kind of person I have been lately, Dave.

NO APOLOGY NEEDED BUT IT'S ACCEPTED. YOU JUST PICK UP THAT FLU-RIDDEN LITTLE ASS OF YOURS HERE IN A FEW DAYS AND MAKE YOURSELF AND YOUR FOLKS PROUD OF YOU AND KNOW YOUR BIG BRO IS PROUD OF YOU TOO.

> I guess there's no way I can make things up to you,
>try to make you proud of me again, because I'm not
>worth it NOW!

SUCK UP THAT SHIT LITTLE BROTHER AND DUMP IT IN THE TRASH. YOU'RE A SMART YOUNG GUY WITH POTENTIAL WHO'S WORTH ANYTHING HE PUTS HIS MIND TOO. STOP FEELING SORRY FOR YOURSELF AND START DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT--PAST CAN BE PAST.

WHO KNOWS, MIGHT MAKE A GOOD DAD SOMEDAY FROM THIS LEARNING EXPERIENCE OF KICKING A LITTLE BRO'S ASS WHEN HE NEEDS IT. HEAVEN KNOWS MY ASS NEEDED IT BACK WHEN AND MY DAD DIDN'T SPARE WORDS OR LEATHER WHEN NEEDED. I'M NOT DISAPPOINTED OR ASHAMED OF YOU RIGHT NOW JOEL. IT TOOK THOUGHT AND MATURITY TO WRITE WHAT YOU DID. ENOUGH WORDS--LETS SEE SOME ACTIONS FOR THE BETTER--OK LIL BRO??

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Re: Joel Avoids Fight/Luke Later Paddled -- Joel to Dave, 07:11:03 01/31/10 Sun