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Date Posted: 07:29:13 11/30/09 Mon
Author: Joel to David
Subject: Re: Joel's "Say No to Drugs!" Whipping From Grandpa
In reply to: David to Joel 's message, "Re: Joel's "Say No to Drugs!" Whipping From Grandpa" on 18:20:39 11/29/09 Sun

Hey big brother, David it was so good to hear from you, and see and get advise from your message.

First, hey that's cool that you & Mollie and Rick and Jeanne are getting some dating time in! Keep it up and ENJOY, man!

Second, I screwed up and should have gotten my butt out of the barn when grandpa was threatening me with the razor strap. I couldn't believe what was happening, I got scared (I'll admit it) and didn't know what to do.

I tried to talk my way out, I guess I haven't had enough experience, thought it wouldn't really happen for the whipping to take place, and I thought I failed as a grandson somehow and athlete, etc., my mind was not clear!

The man I saw in that man, I've come to realize, was not my grandpa and I think he needs help now. I realize I should tell my parents and grandma, but I can't for the moment.

If you look at the Post Message I left with Steve today, but I'll try to re-hash some of it, you'll see my reason and a game plan I have some up with, after thinking things through (while rubbing a sore butt), I did some praying to God (and He answered with some ideas), and of course Kyle, Luke and Sean spend a couple nights over with me and we talked things through.

First off, the mission to get my dad to paddle me is coming first, before I tell on grandpa, which I believe is the right thing to do. It took you, Rick, Steve, Sean, Luke and Kyle to get me to admit it and say it to myself!

I can't tell until I get the paddling. If my dad was abused as a kid, wrongly punished for things he shouldn't have been and hears that his dad ABUSED me, then if I ask, beg and plead for him to give me my first father/son paddling then he will NOT want to do it. He would think he would be abusing me.

So I have to get a plan and watch for open doors to have the paddling first. After that, of course NOT the same day, I will tell on grandpa.

I don't have the answer why grandpa did what he did. He has the answer. Maybe he was just getting wrapped up in the stupid "Say No to Drugs" and "Don't Abuse and Use Illegally Drugs" or something else. I don't think he's a mental case, but my sore butt (still some) might agree he is, but will get him some help or something.

I have to keep in mind about grandma, too, and the long, long marriage she and grandpa have. I pray this incident will not cause a marriage problem. God, then I would have that to think about!

I do have my mind clear on things, have my head on tight and have sorted things out.

Got a game plan...

Going to return to the scene of the whipping (I hate to say it was a crime) and I won't be alone. I will never be alone with grandpa again I have my mind made up. Kyle, Luke and Sean are going with me this weekend, my folks won't be, but us four dudes have some dates to take to the community Holiday Festival where my grandparents live that is to be held on Saturday.

Kyle and glf Julie are going, and the girl Kyle dated that I fixed up for Sean to take out he will have again, and Luke has same girl he dates. I, of course, will be taking Holly. None of the girls know I got the whipping and us guys will not talk about it around them to let it slip.
Kyle has commented, "Joel, this gives Holly a perfect chance again to admire your cute little ass she likes to look at in jeans."

Geez! He won't he stop. Or maybe Holly has said this. I'd be to embarrassed to ask her if she said that, and she'd think I was nuts to ask if she said that. I will admit, and your the first person in the forum I'm telling you, Holly has a sweet looking little butt to look at in jeans. I wonder how she looks in her cheerleading dress?

Oh, going to make Christmas Cookies with grandma, us four dudes. Grandma likes to talk, talk, talk in the kitchen and she'll talk about her past, growing up, meeting and marrying grandma, and my dad's childhood. I'm going to try, and if I have trouble (I probably will) to try to get grandma to talk more about my dad as a kid and growing up as a teen, and work it in about dad's spankings/paddlings and whippings he might have gotten. Kyle, Sean and Luke said they would help me in talking.

I figure we can find out if my dad might have been abused my grandpa. He's never acted like he was, or my folks never have admitted it, and I'm smart enough of a guy (I'm trying to me) to know so far there is no indication grandpa did abuse in punishment or anything else to my dad. If he did, then maybe it will come out.

Also David, to rest your mind, I didn't see where grandpa would have tried or wanted to do anything to me in the barn, other then give me the whipping to harm me.
Thanks dude, saying you wouldn't want harm to come to me. Your a good buddy, big brother to tell me that. I know God was watching over me, but I won't judge Him and ask why did this have to happen to me.

I didn't do anything, and I would have admitted to it if I did and take the whipping, and grandpa didn't talk me in to it, but my mind got messed up somehow, I got scared, and I wanted to please grandpa so, but didn't realize I should have gotten my butt out of there!

Yeah, this would be embarrassing if something BIG comes out of this, I'd hate to see grandpa have charges or a felony put on him, but he had a sick moment and could use some mental help, so maybe that can be done and nothing else involving the law. That would really hurt my grandma, my folks and ME, especially.

So that's it for now. Please leave more messages IF you want to. I usually stay over Monday and Tuesday's at Kyles to ride to school with him, we take turns to save on gas, and Kyle doesn't have a computer, so Wednesday or Thursday at the latest for me to get an answer back from seeing yours.

Dude, thanks for saying the CHALLENGE IS STILL ON, and not wanting to back out. Your motivating me, big brother, and things will work out. I need to get that first paddling from my dad, to feel like you did in your first dad/son paddling relationship, and it's only going to happen if you continue to keep me motived like you have to fullfill a dream for me-that you helped spark.

Yeah, it needs to be a little while. My butt is still SORE, most of the redness is starting to go away, and how would I explain to dad if I got him talked in to hauling me over his leg, bare my butt to get paddled and he see's my butt in the condition its in?

So what do you think of my game plan I came up with? Did I do a good job figuring things out or what?

Could you have Rick see this message, too? Can't have my other big brother be left out on this.

Geez, you two are something else!

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  • Re: Joel's "Say No to Drugs!" Whipping From Grandpa -- Steve----to David, 12:28:15 11/30/09 Mon
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