| Subject: Hi Biff-- some passing thoughts here. |
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Don
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Date Posted: 07/ 2/02 3:54pm
In reply to:
Biff
's message, "The very question is not bound by logic" on 07/ 1/02 5:23pm
He can, however, make an absolutely perfect circle (and he resolved the exact value of pi
long ago)
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Hi Biff-- some passing thoughts here. A perfect circle as compared to what? A circle with
a dent in it? Is a one dented circle more perfect than a 2 dented one, or what is perfect is
in your application? Perfection needs something to relate to and what are the limits of
relationship-- Perfection is a subjective idea based on application at the time. If your
perfection here is based on a unit of measurement and all measurements are not
precise...they are only accurate to the degree required for application. You run into a
realm of silliness. To resolve the exact value of pie exist only in imagination and not
shown to have ever happened. It could happen but as yet not shown to happen. So again
you deepen your imagination to accommodate a god belief. Commonly called as magic,
myth, and beliefs ok throw in opinions. None of witch will prove a god. A bigger myth
will not prove a god any more than a smaller one. Better yet and more simply put-- can
you show one rock to be more perfect than an other one?-- I would love to see you do that
with out an application.
Further more what are the consequences that pie should every be resolved? Same as
2+2=4. it is an answer to a math problem, interesting maybe even very interesting, but
hardly proves a god. The bigger the number does not make a bigger more powerful god.
Nor does the complexity of math prove a god, certainly as computers are god like in
number crunching and getting better all the time. So are computers gods? That is a mater
of opinion. You might try praying to one and see. I pray to mine all the time---Please
work, please work.
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or square, or make a rock so large it cannot be moved by anything else, things which may
seem inconceivable to us.
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Yes you are right it is inconceivable and as such god exist only as a belief in the realm
that is “inconceivable”. Much like the god of the gaps --god exist in the gaps of our
knowledge as a belief. Will we ever know it all? We will have to wait and see.
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But then, perhaps logic is a purely human concept, and our omnipotent God is not bound
by it at all. Perhaps he can make a rock so large that he cannot move it. Wrap your brain
around that one.
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Again this shows that god exist beyond any common sense or any logic. Logic is nothing
more than connecting of like ideas in the best possible way but in no way can predict the
future “UNLESS” sufficient knowledge is known. Logic can not tell you what is this box
that is 1 cubic foot in dimension. Logic is limited to the amount of Knowledge that is
available and understood. Because logic cannot resolve something, at the time, that does
not mean that god exist.
It is interesting to what limit theists will go to hang on to a god idea. What is even more
interesting is the thought (hope) that god is proven so the bible is the word for word
perfect word of god. Such masive leaps of faith are admerable and shows true grit.
Don
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