| Subject: Interesting thoughts, Don |
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Biff
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Date Posted: 07/ 2/02 9:35pm
In reply to:
Don
's message, "Hi Biff-- some passing thoughts here." on 07/ 2/02 3:54pm
>He can, however, make an absolutely perfect circle
>(and he resolved the exact value of pi
>long ago)
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>Hi Biff-- some passing thoughts here. A perfect circle
>as compared to what? A circle with
>a dent in it? Is a one dented circle more perfect
>than a 2 dented one, or what is perfect is
>in your application?
By a perfect circle I mean one with an absolutely equal radius at each (potentially infinite) degree of measurement.
Perfection needs something to
>relate to and what are the limits of
>relationship-- Perfection is a subjective idea based
>on application at the time. If your
>perfection here is based on a unit of measurement and
>all measurements are not
>precise...they are only accurate to the degree
>required for application. You run into a
>realm of silliness.
I don't think there's anything silly about it. It's extremely unlikely that any human has drawn an absolutely perfect circle. It's a mathmatical concept that between every two points on a line exists another point. Likewise, between every two points on the radius of a circle exists another point. We can't even take an absolutely precise measurement of the radius, let alone draw a perfect circle. To be able to do so is in the realm of omnipotence. That's what I was getting at.
To resolve the exact value of pie
>exist only in imagination and not
>shown to have ever happened. It could happen but as
>yet not shown to happen. So again
>you deepen your imagination to accommodate a god
>belief.
No, it's not that at all. If I already believe in an omniscient God, it's not a deepening of the imagination, but merely a natural extension that he should know the exact value of pi (assuming that the value of pi is logically resolvable, if God is bound by logic).
>Further more what are the consequences that pie should
>every be resolved? Same as
>2+2=4. it is an answer to a math problem, interesting
>maybe even very interesting, but
>hardly proves a god. The bigger the number does not
>make a bigger more powerful god.
>Nor does the complexity of math prove a god, certainly
>as computers are god like in
>number crunching and getting better all the time. So
>are computers gods? That is a mater
>of opinion.
No, you miss my point. I was simply using the value of pi as an example of something that an omniscient, omnipotent God would know. I was not saying that only such a deity could ever resolve it.
>Yes you are right it is inconceivable and as such god
>exist only as a belief in the realm
>that is “inconceivable”. Much like the god of the gaps
>--god exist in the gaps of our
>knowledge as a belief. Will we ever know it all? We
>will have to wait and see.
Yes, let's wait and see. (I Corinthians 13:12)
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