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Subject: A man with a beard threw a fluffy bunny


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Biff
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Date Posted: 10/26/04 9:52pm
In reply to: Damoclese 's message, "Comparable" on 10/26/04 6:40pm

>Or maybe they had the complete understanding (being
>that they were there) and what you believe now is
>incorrect, and Gilgamesh is right.

Being that they were where? Are you suggesting that living in particular place or time gives one an advantage over others to understanding God? If so, you're assuming that God once would have interacted with history and no longer does. There are quite literally millions who would disagree with you based on personal experience.

I guess by that criteria every movie
>that follows a boy gets girl, boy loses girl, boy gets
>girl back formula supports the validity of ONE TRUE BE
>ALL END ALL movie among that genre.
>The reality is, someone came up with that formula, and
>a bunch of movies have been based on it since.

One person says to the police, "I saw a man with a beard cross the street and throw a brick through the window. He then jumped inside and ran back out carrying a television."

A second person, who lives a few doors down from the first, says to the police, "I saw a man with a beard cross the street and throw a brick through the window. He jumped inside then came out carrying the limp body of a woman and started to perform CPR."

What can we glean from this? To discover why the window was broken, we'd need more information. However, it seems quite likely that it was broken by a man with beard, does it not?

>
>The Christian God is intimately linked with a flood,
>and some people believe he is bound to what is
>logically possible. (i.e. bound by nature)

1) It's a mistake to equate logic with nature. Logic is a system of thought. It's not necessarily connected with nature in any way.

2) I've never heard it credibly argued that God is bound by logic. It may be that He CHOOSES to work within the paramaters of logic, but it's difficult to say that an omnipotent God is bound by logic.

3) Yes, God is intimately linked with a flood; and snowstorms and volcanoes, geysers, hurricanes, sunshine, boulders, tornadoes and clouds shaped like fluffy bunnies. But that's just it. He controls it--all of it. Because He created it. If there were no thunder, there would be no Thor (in the mind of the Norseman). The Christian God is completely independant of creation, He would exist even if nature did not.

>If by that you mean people worship God and Jesus, then
>I suppose you are right. Of course, the guts have been
>replaced several times over,

I'm afraid you'll have to elaborate on what you mean by "the guts." Doctrines such as the Trinity, the death and resurrection of Christ, the ascention of Christ, the Holy Spirit, salvation, forgiveness, etc., have not been replaced. Certainly, you can find sects throughout history who have challenged certain doctrines, but they have never succeeded in replacing anything central to the faith.

and that's what I'm
>talking about as speaking in generalities in this
>particular instance would lead us to conclude things
>like Islam somehow being a stronger religion because
>it's basically the same since it began.

Historically, Islam has really only thrived in a specific group of cultures. This is why it has remained basically the same. Christianity has succeeded in infiltrating (for lack of a better word) a variety of cultures to a greater degree. I would contend that this makes Christianity the "stronger" religion.

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