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Subject: Speaking of irrelevant, what's calculus got to do with it? Author: Wade A. Tisthammer [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 03/29/04 12:48pm In reply to: Damoclese 's message, "Your objection is noted but irrelevant" on 03/25/04 1:47pm >>That does not logically follow. The distance could be >>finite, thereby not requiring one to travel an >>infinite space. > >It could be, but it is not treated as such. Methinks that’s the problem, treating a finite region as if it were infinite in distance. >When >dealing with motion, one is necessarily dealing with >calculus, and calculus deals with infinite distances >that converge on finite points, like it or not. > >I suggest you take up your objection with calculus >itself, and if you have something better to offer to >offer it. You'll be remembered for many generations to >come. I suspect I know more calculus than you do. I still don't think it would be accurate to call a finite distance infinite. >>But if we don't travel that way (i.e. each step we >>halve our distance) we don't necessarily never cross >>it. If we travel an infinite number of such distance >>intervals with each step, then the above need not >>apply. > >Halving it is irrelevant. You could 1/4 it or 1/8 it >or whatever you liked. Yes, but in this scenario we were halving it. >The fact of the matter is >within the bounds of calculus infinities have finite >answers. I didn't make the rules up, so I suggest you >take up your objections with those who might be >responsible for "changing" the rules of calculus if >you have a better system. As of late in a few message boards I have been told to learn more of calculus, when it turns out they have misunderstood some concepts of calculus and I understand it a bit better (having passed 4 semesters of calculus in college). Calculus being true doesn't change my objections to the argument. We are still traversing a finite region, and potentially infinite subdivisions don't mean you can't travel it for reasons I've already explained. >Which direction do you go now? Are you >going to reject a premise calculus rests on? And what premise would that be? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date Calculus QUITTNER 04/ 5/04 1:50pm you oughtta -- Damoclese, 04/ 5/04 3:09pm ...explain yourself. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 04/ 6/04 10:50am terse answers -- Damoclese, 04/ 6/04 7:41pm Succinct replies. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 04/ 7/04 11:48pm That's what I'm talking about -- Damoclese, 04/ 8/04 7:44am Really? -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 04/ 8/04 10:07am Watch this -- Damoclese, 04/ 8/04 10:29am I'm watching. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 04/11/04 9:38pm and oh yeah -- damoclese, 04/ 8/04 10:51am Oh yeah! Kool Aid for everyone! -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 04/11/04 9:48pm Assuming -- Damoclese, 04/12/04 8:25am Infinity. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 04/12/04 10:25am heh -- Damoclese, 04/12/04 11:14am Tee hee. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 04/12/04 4:47pm "one" -- Damoclese, 04/12/04 6:56pm Two -- Wade A. Tishtammer, 04/14/04 1:06pm What's good for the goose -- Damoclese, 04/14/04 5:04pm What other alternatives are there? -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 04/15/04 11:37am Ganders -- Damoclese, 04/15/04 5:36pm Why abandon logic? -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 04/28/04 12:14pm Hiatus over -- Damoclese, 04/28/04 6:53pm Illogical to abandon logic. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 04/29/04 12:47pm what a bounty -- Damoclese, 04/29/04 2:25pm Of logic. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 05/ 2/04 3:11pm of intuition -- Damoclese, 05/ 4/04 10:51am Of more logic. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 05/ 7/04 2:25pm One mistake... -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 04/15/04 11:40am