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Subject: what do you all consider the leading title for anyone 40 and up? Reasons? Are they worth the return or are prices getting out of control? Author: would like a quality title [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 02:48:59 05/20/12 Sun [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: what do you all consider the leading title for anyone 40 and up? Reasons? Are they worth the return or are prices getting out of control? Author: Honest Answer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:23:33 05/20/12 Sun My opinion? I'm not sure there is one leading title for the 40-and-up age group. I always hear people talking about titles having more/less "value," but frankly, I have yet to see an actual "grading system" that went any farther than one person's personal opinion. Mostly, I think what matters is your overall pageant experience and what works for you, your budget, your platform, and your pageant goals. That is one of the beauties of being over 40 - You get more freedom of choice! Do I think the prices are getting out of control? It does seem like directors are placing more and more of the production costs on the shoulders of the contestants these days. But part of that goes along with your overall pageant experience. Do you want to be in a pageant that is held in a professional theater, or do you want to be on a community church stage? I don't have a good answer for that one. The cost of everything is going up these days.

[> [> Subject: good answer. I dont' think the 40 somethings are considered viable any more. There are a strong handful of older women who are dynamite, but it's too small for directors to give attention to. So, you have to compete with the 20's and 30's, and it's a rarity to win. Maybe one day we will honor those ladies with a strong system. Author: I hope so, cause I"m about there [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 02:36:56 05/21/12 Mon >My opinion? I'm not sure there is one leading title >for the 40-and-up age group. >I always hear people talking about titles having >more/less "value," but frankly, I have yet to see an >actual "grading system" that went any farther than one >person's personal opinion. >Mostly, I think what matters is your overall pageant >experience and what works for you, your budget, your >platform, and your pageant goals. That is one of the >beauties of being over 40 - You get more freedom of >choice! >Do I think the prices are getting out of control? It >does seem like directors are placing more and more of >the production costs on the shoulders of the >contestants these days. But part of that goes along >with your overall pageant experience. Do you want to >be in a pageant that is held in a professional >theater, or do you want to be on a community church >stage? I don't have a good answer for that one. The >cost of everything is going up these days.

[> [> [> Subject: The only way to make it happen... Author: Is to make it happen! [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:44:16 05/22/12 Tue I think that this is going to change. So many women over 40 are using pageants now in a positive way to bring out their platforms and to motivate themselves to get in shape, improve themselves, etc. I think that as more of this gets out to the public, the more "Lady" candidates will be attracted to the pageant world.

[> [> [> [> Subject: no, the only way to make it happen is to have judges that aren't 20 somethings and understand the difficulty in competing at that age. Or drop the whole swimsuit thing and give them a shot. Author: when the hot shots start turning 40 it will change [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 02:33:16 05/23/12 Wed >I think that this is going to change. So many women >over 40 are using pageants now in a positive way to >bring out their platforms and to motivate themselves >to get in shape, improve themselves, etc. I think >that as more of this gets out to the public, the more >"Lady" candidates will be attracted to the pageant >world.

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Be nice. This is getting very close to the name calling that I will not tolerate, Author: MODQUEEN [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:30:36 05/23/12 Wed >>I think that this is going to change. So many women >>over 40 are using pageants now in a positive way to >>bring out their platforms and to motivate themselves >>to get in shape, improve themselves, etc. I think >>that as more of this gets out to the public, the more >>"Lady" candidates will be attracted to the pageant >>world.

[> Subject: What I find so sad is that there are definitely some ladies in their 50's that are unbelievable and yet the director and/or judges just don't seem to understand how hard these women have to work to maintain. Sometimes, I feel that these women do not get what's due to them and it's all because of their age. Sorry, folks, but I look up to these women and have total respect and admiration, just wish that they would be recognized once in a while. They will always be an inspiration to me. Author: Love the seasoned women in pageantry [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:58:58 05/23/12 Wed >My opinion? I'm not sure there is one leading title >for the 40-and-up age group. >I always hear people talking about titles having >more/less "value," but frankly, I have yet to see an >actual "grading system" that went any farther than one >person's personal opinion. >Mostly, I think what matters is your overall pageant >experience and what works for you, your budget, your >platform, and your pageant goals. That is one of the >beauties of being over 40 - You get more freedom of >choice! >Do I think the prices are getting out of control? It >does seem like directors are placing more and more of >the production costs on the shoulders of the >contestants these days. But part of that goes along >with your overall pageant experience. Do you want to >be in a pageant that is held in a professional >theater, or do you want to be on a community church >stage? I don't have a good answer for that one. The >cost of everything is going up these days.

[> [> Subject: as one of the 50 somethings I thank you for that sweet note! I adore pageantry, but I also know I'm not 30 any more, and I couldn't possibly compete with the likes or legs of those beauties, but darn it, I sure do try to keep myself up! Author: so kind, thank you [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 06:12:35 05/25/12 Fri >>My opinion? I'm not sure there is one leading title >>for the 40-and-up age group. >>I always hear people talking about titles having >>more/less "value," but frankly, I have yet to see an >>actual "grading system" that went any farther than one >>person's personal opinion. >>Mostly, I think what matters is your overall pageant >>experience and what works for you, your budget, your >>platform, and your pageant goals. That is one of the >>beauties of being over 40 - You get more freedom of >>choice! >>Do I think the prices are getting out of control? It >>does seem like directors are placing more and more of >>the production costs on the shoulders of the >>contestants these days. But part of that goes along >>with your overall pageant experience. Do you want to >>be in a pageant that is held in a professional >>theater, or do you want to be on a community church >>stage? I don't have a good answer for that one. The >>cost of everything is going up these days.

[> Subject: so, are there any titles that are noteworthy for a 40 something, or is it all silly? Do we have to win a big 3 to be considered a true queen? Author: I guess so, tough to face reality [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 02:29:02 05/31/12 Thu >My opinion? I'm not sure there is one leading title >for the 40-and-up age group. >I always hear people talking about titles having >more/less "value," but frankly, I have yet to see an >actual "grading system" that went any farther than one >person's personal opinion. >Mostly, I think what matters is your overall pageant >experience and what works for you, your budget, your >platform, and your pageant goals. That is one of the >beauties of being over 40 - You get more freedom of >choice! >Do I think the prices are getting out of control? It >does seem like directors are placing more and more of >the production costs on the shoulders of the >contestants these days. But part of that goes along >with your overall pageant experience. Do you want to >be in a pageant that is held in a professional >theater, or do you want to be on a community church >stage? I don't have a good answer for that one. The >cost of everything is going up these days.

[> [> Subject: This is why I love Beauties of America! At least I can feel comfortable competing with women in my own age group. Author: Happy [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:49:53 05/31/12 Thu >>My opinion? I'm not sure there is one leading title >>for the 40-and-up age group. >>I always hear people talking about titles having >>more/less "value," but frankly, I have yet to see an >>actual "grading system" that went any farther than one >>person's personal opinion. >>Mostly, I think what matters is your overall pageant >>experience and what works for you, your budget, your >>platform, and your pageant goals. That is one of the >>beauties of being over 40 - You get more freedom of >>choice! >>Do I think the prices are getting out of control? It >>does seem like directors are placing more and more of >>the production costs on the shoulders of the >>contestants these days. But part of that goes along >>with your overall pageant experience. Do you want to >>be in a pageant that is held in a professional >>theater, or do you want to be on a community church >>stage? I don't have a good answer for that one. The >>cost of everything is going up these days.

[> [> [> Subject: Me too! Author: BOA appreciates us! [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:49:08 05/31/12 Thu >>>My opinion? I'm not sure there is one leading title >>>for the 40-and-up age group. >>>I always hear people talking about titles having >>>more/less "value," but frankly, I have yet to see an >>>actual "grading system" that went any farther than >one >>>person's personal opinion. >>>Mostly, I think what matters is your overall pageant >>>experience and what works for you, your budget, your >>>platform, and your pageant goals. That is one of the >>>beauties of being over 40 - You get more freedom of >>>choice! >>>Do I think the prices are getting out of control? It >>>does seem like directors are placing more and more of >>>the production costs on the shoulders of the >>>contestants these days. But part of that goes along >>>with your overall pageant experience. Do you want to >>>be in a pageant that is held in a professional >>>theater, or do you want to be on a community church >>>stage? I don't have a good answer for that one. The >>>cost of everything is going up these days.

[> [> [> [> Subject: wish it was back on the east coast. It's just too far and expensive. Author: oh well [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 03:25:01 06/01/12 Fri >>>>My opinion? I'm not sure there is one leading title >>>>for the 40-and-up age group. >>>>I always hear people talking about titles having >>>>more/less "value," but frankly, I have yet to see an >>>>actual "grading system" that went any farther than >>one >>>>person's personal opinion. >>>>Mostly, I think what matters is your overall pageant >>>>experience and what works for you, your budget, your >>>>platform, and your pageant goals. That is one of >the >>>>beauties of being over 40 - You get more freedom of >>>>choice! >>>>Do I think the prices are getting out of control? It >>>>does seem like directors are placing more and more >of >>>>the production costs on the shoulders of the >>>>contestants these days. But part of that goes along >>>>with your overall pageant experience. Do you want to >>>>be in a pageant that is held in a professional >>>>theater, or do you want to be on a community church >>>>stage? I don't have a good answer for that one. The >>>>cost of everything is going up these days.

[> Subject: "Do we have to win a big 3 to be considered a true queen?" No, just respect the title that you DO win. If the big 3 worried that MAO and MUO don't see them as "true queens" they wouldn't have become the big 3. Win in a system that fits you, then promote it and grow it to "up" its prestige. Want a one-title-only, super glam/elite pageant exclusively for 40s and up? If there is a demand for it, someone will create one. This"true queen, worthy title, bought title" garbage won't get us there. Author: We can make it happen [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:54:31 05/31/12 Thu >My opinion? I'm not sure there is one leading title >for the 40-and-up age group. >I always hear people talking about titles having >more/less "value," but frankly, I have yet to see an >actual "grading system" that went any farther than one >person's personal opinion. >Mostly, I think what matters is your overall pageant >experience and what works for you, your budget, your >platform, and your pageant goals. That is one of the >beauties of being over 40 - You get more freedom of >choice! >Do I think the prices are getting out of control? It >does seem like directors are placing more and more of >the production costs on the shoulders of the >contestants these days. But part of that goes along >with your overall pageant experience. Do you want to >be in a pageant that is held in a professional >theater, or do you want to be on a community church >stage? I don't have a good answer for that one. The >cost of everything is going up these days.

[> [> Subject: are there any new ones for 40+ that will ever blossom and draw that kind of respect? Not talking about BOA. Author: I guess I keep hoping [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 02:17:12 06/07/12 Thu >>My opinion? I'm not sure there is one leading title >>for the 40-and-up age group. >>I always hear people talking about titles having >>more/less "value," but frankly, I have yet to see an >>actual "grading system" that went any farther than one >>person's personal opinion. >>Mostly, I think what matters is your overall pageant >>experience and what works for you, your budget, your >>platform, and your pageant goals. That is one of the >>beauties of being over 40 - You get more freedom of >>choice! >>Do I think the prices are getting out of control? It >>does seem like directors are placing more and more of >>the production costs on the shoulders of the >>contestants these days. But part of that goes along >>with your overall pageant experience. Do you want to >>be in a pageant that is held in a professional >>theater, or do you want to be on a community church >>stage? I don't have a good answer for that one. The >>cost of everything is going up these days.

[> [> [> Subject: I think the new trend is going to be towards smaller, all-age pageants. I think the era of only one or two dominating pageants is coming to a close unless you could get a big sponsor like Trump. Author: thoughtful [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 21:58:08 06/07/12 Thu >>>My opinion? I'm not sure there is one leading title >>>for the 40-and-up age group. >>>I always hear people talking about titles having >>>more/less "value," but frankly, I have yet to see an >>>actual "grading system" that went any farther than >one >>>person's personal opinion. >>>Mostly, I think what matters is your overall pageant >>>experience and what works for you, your budget, your >>>platform, and your pageant goals. That is one of the >>>beauties of being over 40 - You get more freedom of >>>choice! >>>Do I think the prices are getting out of control? It >>>does seem like directors are placing more and more of >>>the production costs on the shoulders of the >>>contestants these days. But part of that goes along >>>with your overall pageant experience. Do you want to >>>be in a pageant that is held in a professional >>>theater, or do you want to be on a community church >>>stage? I don't have a good answer for that one. The >>>cost of everything is going up these days.

[> [> [> Subject: More than one savvy director is watching this board and some are making plans. MWI is the one to watch for now, but I think you will also see a new one in the next year or so. Author: Waiting too! [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 23:51:28 06/15/12 Fri >>>My opinion? I'm not sure there is one leading title >>>for the 40-and-up age group. >>>I always hear people talking about titles having >>>more/less "value," but frankly, I have yet to see an >>>actual "grading system" that went any farther than >one >>>person's personal opinion. >>>Mostly, I think what matters is your overall pageant >>>experience and what works for you, your budget, your >>>platform, and your pageant goals. That is one of the >>>beauties of being over 40 - You get more freedom of >>>choice! >>>Do I think the prices are getting out of control? It >>>does seem like directors are placing more and more of >>>the production costs on the shoulders of the >>>contestants these days. But part of that goes along >>>with your overall pageant experience. Do you want to >>>be in a pageant that is held in a professional >>>theater, or do you want to be on a community church >>>stage? I don't have a good answer for that one. The >>>cost of everything is going up these days.

[> Subject: I sm looking forward to the Ms World International pageant system. the web site looks fantastic . they are new this year but it looks like the place for 35 and up..sorry youngsters Author: lou [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:41:57 06/13/12 Wed >My opinion? I'm not sure there is one leading title >for the 40-and-up age group. >I always hear people talking about titles having >more/less "value," but frankly, I have yet to see an >actual "grading system" that went any farther than one >person's personal opinion. >Mostly, I think what matters is your overall pageant >experience and what works for you, your budget, your >platform, and your pageant goals. That is one of the >beauties of being over 40 - You get more freedom of >choice! >Do I think the prices are getting out of control? It >does seem like directors are placing more and more of >the production costs on the shoulders of the >contestants these days. But part of that goes along >with your overall pageant experience. Do you want to >be in a pageant that is held in a professional >theater, or do you want to be on a community church >stage? I don't have a good answer for that one. The >cost of everything is going up these days.

[> [> Subject: i think I'll sit back and watch the first year. I'm not sure a site shows the true flavor. Puerto Rica is a bit expensive for travel, too, and with family, it puts it out of range for us. So, let's wait and see. Author: hope it works [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 02:56:40 06/14/12 Thu >>My opinion? I'm not sure there is one leading title >>for the 40-and-up age group. >>I always hear people talking about titles having >>more/less "value," but frankly, I have yet to see an >>actual "grading system" that went any farther than one >>person's personal opinion. >>Mostly, I think what matters is your overall pageant >>experience and what works for you, your budget, your >>platform, and your pageant goals. That is one of the >>beauties of being over 40 - You get more freedom of >>choice! >>Do I think the prices are getting out of control? It >>does seem like directors are placing more and more of >>the production costs on the shoulders of the >>contestants these days. But part of that goes along >>with your overall pageant experience. Do you want to >>be in a pageant that is held in a professional >>theater, or do you want to be on a community church >>stage? I don't have a good answer for that one. The >>cost of everything is going up these days.

[> [> [> Subject: FYI, Puerto Rico is cheaper than you think, in fact it is cheaper than flying to Washington, Texas, Utah and a few other states. I am happy for MWI, its a new system for us mature woman and look forward to much success for them. The International flair is wonderful also. Author: Nothing but love for MWI [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 05:48:20 06/14/12 Thu

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: I have to concur about PR not being that far out price wise. I looked at the rate for the resort and it is 119 if you are with the pageant. That is fantastic . It is cheaper to fly there than other citites, depending on where you are coming from. BUT really look at the web site, the prizes it will on web TV!!! Finally it looks like a pageant that is really going to go big time. I can hardly wait to see! Author: lou [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:26:11 06/14/12 Thu

[> [> [> [> Subject: well, not from where I live, and I live in the SE. Airfare was $637 from here. That's not cheap, or I can drive 5 hours to a larger airport, but that's kinda dumb. i thought there would be alot more laides, a lot more known ones who are screaming for an older pageant, but I dont' see them. Author: not sure [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:21:34 07/22/12 Sun

[> Subject: MWI, this is their first year with 21 delegates - BRAVO, top notch all the way. The whole thing is a wash when compared to other pageants. Most have higher entry fees, hotels fees are about the same and travel could be higher/lower depending where you travel from. MWI is unique as it does not follow the normal pageant rules. Build it and they will come, when they are ready. But their prize package for both delegates and the winner are the best I've seen in any system by far. Author: Something for Everyone. Good Luck MWI [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:15:03 07/22/12 Sun

[> [> Subject: US United is a wonderful pageant system and very affordable...they offer a division for the plus 45 year ladies....in fact, those ladies do more with their titles sometimes than the younger gals...I loved it!! Author: US United queen [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 06:23:56 07/23/12 Mon

[> [> [> Subject: Ms. World Int'l still is looking for a very glamourous winner....I see it almost as a "Galaxy" style pageant for 35 and over. So my guess is that you need to "bring it" on the ramp with fashion wear big time! Which means you need the bucks to pull off a competitive evening wear, fashion gown AND go to Puerto Rico. I DO think their entry fee is fairly reasonable but you need money on the other side to be competitive...I love the sashes though and wish the crowns were a little bigger. Author: My friend is in it and is very excited! [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:10:16 07/30/12 Mon

[> [> [> [> Subject: It also looked like they had a lot more delegates but it wound up to be only 21 but that is probably normal for your first go around. I know Ms. America their first bigger year (when they moved it out of the hotel) had about 18-22 delegates the first year. Author: Lots of choices out there for women these days! [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:12:47 07/30/12 Mon