"Do we have to win a big 3 to be considered a true queen?" No, just respect the title that you DO win. If the big 3 worried that MAO and MUO don't see them as "true queens" they wouldn't have become the big 3. Win in a system that fits you, then promote it and grow it to "up" its prestige. Want a one-title-only, super glam/elite pageant exclusively for 40s and up? If there is a demand for it, someone will create one. This"true queen, worthy title, bought title" garbage won't get us there. -- Ms. & Mrs. Elite or Classic Board

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Subject: "Do we have to win a big 3 to be considered a true queen?" No, just respect the title that you DO win. If the big 3 worried that MAO and MUO don't see them as "true queens" they wouldn't have become the big 3. Win in a system that fits you, then promote it and grow it to "up" its prestige. Want a one-title-only, super glam/elite pageant exclusively for 40s and up? If there is a demand for it, someone will create one. This"true queen, worthy title, bought title" garbage won't get us there.

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We can make it happen

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Date Posted: 18:54:31 05/31/12 Thu
In reply to: would like a quality title 's message, "what do you all consider the leading title for anyone 40 and up? Reasons? Are they worth the return or are prices getting out of control?" on 02:48:59 05/20/12 Sun

>My opinion? I'm not sure there is one leading title
>for the 40-and-up age group.
>I always hear people talking about titles having
>more/less "value," but frankly, I have yet to see an
>actual "grading system" that went any farther than one
>person's personal opinion.
>Mostly, I think what matters is your overall pageant
>experience and what works for you, your budget, your
>platform, and your pageant goals. That is one of the
>beauties of being over 40 - You get more freedom of
>choice!
>Do I think the prices are getting out of control? It
>does seem like directors are placing more and more of
>the production costs on the shoulders of the
>contestants these days. But part of that goes along
>with your overall pageant experience. Do you want to
>be in a pageant that is held in a professional
>theater, or do you want to be on a community church
>stage? I don't have a good answer for that one. The
>cost of everything is going up these days.

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[> [> Subject: are there any new ones for 40+ that will ever blossom and draw that kind of respect? Not talking about BOA.

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I guess I keep hoping
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Date Posted: 02:17:12 06/07/12 Thu

>>My opinion? I'm not sure there is one leading title
>>for the 40-and-up age group.
>>I always hear people talking about titles having
>>more/less "value," but frankly, I have yet to see an
>>actual "grading system" that went any farther than one
>>person's personal opinion.
>>Mostly, I think what matters is your overall pageant
>>experience and what works for you, your budget, your
>>platform, and your pageant goals. That is one of the
>>beauties of being over 40 - You get more freedom of
>>choice!
>>Do I think the prices are getting out of control? It
>>does seem like directors are placing more and more of
>>the production costs on the shoulders of the
>>contestants these days. But part of that goes along
>>with your overall pageant experience. Do you want to
>>be in a pageant that is held in a professional
>>theater, or do you want to be on a community church
>>stage? I don't have a good answer for that one. The
>>cost of everything is going up these days.

[> [> [> Subject: I think the new trend is going to be towards smaller, all-age pageants. I think the era of only one or two dominating pageants is coming to a close unless you could get a big sponsor like Trump.

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thoughtful
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Date Posted: 21:58:08 06/07/12 Thu

>>>My opinion? I'm not sure there is one leading title
>>>for the 40-and-up age group.
>>>I always hear people talking about titles having
>>>more/less "value," but frankly, I have yet to see an
>>>actual "grading system" that went any farther than
>one
>>>person's personal opinion.
>>>Mostly, I think what matters is your overall pageant
>>>experience and what works for you, your budget, your
>>>platform, and your pageant goals. That is one of the
>>>beauties of being over 40 - You get more freedom of
>>>choice!
>>>Do I think the prices are getting out of control? It
>>>does seem like directors are placing more and more of
>>>the production costs on the shoulders of the
>>>contestants these days. But part of that goes along
>>>with your overall pageant experience. Do you want to
>>>be in a pageant that is held in a professional
>>>theater, or do you want to be on a community church
>>>stage? I don't have a good answer for that one. The
>>>cost of everything is going up these days.

[> [> [> Subject: More than one savvy director is watching this board and some are making plans. MWI is the one to watch for now, but I think you will also see a new one in the next year or so.

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Waiting too!
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Date Posted: 23:51:28 06/15/12 Fri