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Subject: Re: Introduction


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Bob E. to Russ
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Date Posted: 05:12:41 09/27/12 Thu
In reply to: Russ 's message, "Introduction" on 17:45:07 09/26/12 Wed

Russ,

I am glad to see that you have posted here- welcome!

I note with amusement that we both have 8 year-old sons named Adam. I will leave it to them to straighten that out when you allow them to post on Voy # 228811. But our Adam has already been posting there, so there may be confusion. I can talk to my son and see how they might resolve this issue....

I have a couple of questions for you; First, you wrote that, "most always it (spanking)is utilized in conjunction with other punishments." Do you ever use these non-corporal punishments in lieu of spanking, rather than in addition to spanking? Why/why not?

Secondly, when spanking was begun (approximately) at age five with your children, did your wife spank them then, or were they always made to "wait until your father gets home." The reason I bring this up, is that spanking is (at the younger ages, especially) most effective when as closely linked in time to the behavior for which the child is punished. (Having said this, I will add that my Mom NEVER spanked me; it was ALWAYS "wait until your Father comes home.")

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Author:
Russ
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Date Posted: 18:38:04 09/27/12 Thu

Two Answers
"First, you wrote that, "most always it (spanking)is
utilized in conjunction with other punishments." Do you
ever use these non-corporal punishments in lieu of
spanking, rather than in addition to spanking? Why/why
not?" Our family goal is the dual objective of
punishing wrong doing in such a manner that the
likelihood of future disobedience is made less likely.
Spanking is a powerful tool for both objectives, but
certainly it is not the only tool. Much depends upon
the specific disobedience and the circumstances
surrounding that disobedience. If it was a thoughtless
act in which one of the boys simply acted without
thinking then the matter can be handled with a
one-to-one talk. Some disobedience is more premeditated
and best addressed with a stern warning that any
repetition will be met with a licking. Other
disobedience, especially that in direct violation of
established household rules, will merit an immediate
paddling.

"Secondly, when spanking was begun (approximately) at
age five with your children, did your wife spank them
then, or were they always made to "wait until your
father gets home." The reason I bring this up, is that
spanking is (at the younger ages, especially) most
effective when as closely linked in time to the behavior
for which the child is punished." Initially, at
approximately age 5 when spankings were begun, my wife
administered the licks and for the precise reason you've
mentioned --- the importance of immediately linking the
negative behavior to the punishment. If I was home at
the time then I'd assume the role of disciplinarian. As
each boy has now grown older and is able to understand
the concept of disobedience and punishment being
seperated in time I now administer the paddling later in the day upon my return.

One Question
Bob, you've indicated in responses both at this Forum
and other Spank With Love Voy Forums that bare
bottom spankings is your norm when the father (versus
the mother) spanks his son. In a recent response to
Beverly, in fact, you wrote "If your husband is
spanking, however, it must be understood by your husband
and your son that "bare bottom" WILL be the method."
Both my Bruce and Adam frequently take their licks on
their bare bottoms so I'm not at all opposed to this
spanking mode. What I'm wondering, however, is why you
feel so strongly that bareness is important. Is it a
psychological issue? I have vivid memories of my
lickings as a teenage in which I received the paddle
both over my blue jeans and with jeans/under pants down
around my ankles. Very honestly I never experienced
much difference in the intensity of the lickings either
way. Certainly thin briefs or boxer shorts will not
effect the intensity level. Thanks for satisfying my
curiosity.

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Author:
Bob E.
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Date Posted: 02:27:08 09/28/12 Fri

No, Russ, I completely agree (and stated myself) that any thin clothing will have negligible cushioning effect of whatever spanking method that's used. In the Behavior Contracts that we had our kids sign, we specified the bare-bottom method of spanking, in order to achieve a consistency across all spankings, and to assure ourselves that we were not "overspanking," i.e., bruising, God forbid. But, we realized that there might be a modesty issue that would present itself at puberty, if my wife were to spank the boys. To "head this issue off in advance," my wife chose an age of ten for allowing the boys to cover with underwear, or pajama bottoms.

In view of the fact that the boys have no qualms about joining me in the sauna, and are not embarrassed when I have encountered them getting dressed, etc., I did not feel that they would care about their bottom being bare for spanking when I spank them. At this point, if they were to raise any objection, I would not hesitate to allow them to cover themselves as they do for my wife. I do suppose there may be some psychological effect of a bared bottom, but it is not one that I need nor really consider as significant.

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