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Subject: Re: Why bare? Author: Connor [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 13:30:38 10/03/12 Wed In reply to: Patterson J., Sr. 's message, "Why bare?" on 11:00:41 09/28/12 Fri I agree with Mr. Patterson. All 3 my sons (and sometimes nephew) are spanked on the bare bottom always. Children know if your behavior is childish you gets childish punishment - barebottomed spanking despite culprit's age (sons are now 16, 14, 12, nephew is almost 15). If olders are embarrassed (it's naturally!) to get in front whoever is presence, it's part of punishment. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: Why bare? Author: Beverly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:38:55 10/04/12 Thu As I posted in an earlier post, my son, who is 13, started complaining about being spanked bare-bottomed and asked if he could wear shorts or underwear when I spank him. After discussing the issue here on this forum and with other parents within our church family, I have agreed to let Chris keep his underwear on, under certain conditions: 1. He must cooperate before and during the spanking. By this, I mean he must take off his jeans and bend over my lap or the chair WITHOUT arguing or putting up a fight. Also, he cannot try to block the paddle by putting his hand back there. If he is uncooperative, his underwear will come down and the spanking will continue bare-bottom. 2. He will receive several extra swats (2 or 3) when he is spanked with underwear on. 3. Serious misbehavior, such as lying or a discipline report (paddling) from school, will mean an automatic bare-bottom spanking. 4. If he earns another spanking for the same offense within the same week, the second one will be bare. 5. If his dad is home, (he works out of town a lot), he will spank Chris and he will still spank bare-bottom. I think these conditions are workable and fair. I'd like to hear input if you would have other suggestions or comments..... THANKS! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Why bare? Author: Connor to Beverly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:22:14 10/04/12 Thu Dear Mrs.Beverly, it's naturally each family has own rules for raising of children, including methods of punishment. However, your complex of rules looks too complicated, at least, for me. My boys know, if they deserve punishment, they get on the bare bottoms and it's undisputable in our family. Guilty boy has to himself pull down his trousers and underpants and go over my knee. Any attempt of resisting ( even mumble something I'm too old for getting on the bare) is reason for a few adittionaly slaps - sometimes more than a few. It's old family wisdom - "guilty child gets on the bare bottom in front God and everyone." In my own childhood Mom and Dad told (and used!) it numerous times. Now I understand they were right, although, then I had other opinion. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Why bare? Author: Russ [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:42:27 10/05/12 Fri Beverly, I've been following your concerns relative to the punishment of your son and have wondered if and how the issue has been resolved. Thanks for keeping us up to date. Thank you also for indirectly addressing an issue that I've been facing of late with my 8 year old son preceding and during his punishment. He attempts to avoid his licking with a paddle by resisting my attempts to place him over my knee. Once secured over my knee he attempts to disrupt by bucking up and down as I administer the licks. Then, also, he attempts to deflect the paddle with his hand. Concerning this, I like what you have posted in your Condition # 1. I especially like your emphasis upon voluntarily cooperating with the punishment. Removing one's own blue jeans in preparation to be spanked is really part and parcel of what it means to take a licking. A disobedient boy cannot undue what he has done, but he can demonstrate his contrition by willingly accepting and even cooperating with the punishment that he has earned. Yes indeed, I do believe that your 5 conditions are both fair and workable. Do let us know how your son's punishments proceed in the future. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Why bare? Author: Bob to Beverly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:52:40 10/10/12 Wed Hi, Beverly! I do have some comments and questions for you regarding the changes in your disciplinary program. First of all, what was your son's reaction to the changes you made? Did he have any issues or comments to make regarding the changes? The rest of my comments/questions pertain to the listing that you made; 1. Have you had problems in the past (by "the past" I mean say, the past year or so) with him NOT cooperating when he has merited a a spanking? If so, can you tell me something about what happened and why/how he was being uncooperative, and how this was handled by you? That is, how did you react to what he id, and what were the consequences? Has he not cooperated only with you, or also with your husband? Does he routinely take down his own pants/underwear? (Mine do not at this point, and I have simply let them know that when they are 12 years old they will be expected to do so. But, until March, I was inconsistent in having them be spanked bare-bottom.)If he fails to cooperate, is the only consequence that he'll face to be that his underwear will come down and the spanking will continue bare-bottom? 2. Seems reasonable to me; did Chris have any comment here? 3. I completely agree that serious misbehavior would mandate a bare-bottom spanking. My only comment would be that you define as much as is possible what is meant by "serious misbehavior." You did give two examples, the lying and the school disciplinary report, but what about disrespect to an adult , swearing, etc. I understand it's tough to cover every contingency, but children- particularly teens, will look for any possible "out" to win an argument. Therefore, it will be to your benefit to try to define this area as precisely as is possible. It helps that you know your own son, of course, and you can therefore best predict his possible actions. 4. By saying "the same week" do you mean a calendar week, or, do you mean a seven day period? Finally, I commend you on making changes to your methods. Showing Chris that you are willing and able to make changes when merited serves as a great example for him! Bravo, Beverly! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]