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Subject: Why bare? Author: Patterson J., Sr. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 11:00:41 09/28/12 Fri I have seen much discussion here about spanking "on the bare." I do it, my wife doesn't. I do it for three reasons: 1. It provides consistency from spanking to spanking. Shorts, trunks, jeans, pajamas, pants, etc. are all of different thicknesses. I just get those out of the way. 2. I can judge redness and effect. I do not risk over doing it. 3. Frankly, it hurts more. I can deliver sufficient punishment with fewer licks that way. Or, if the "crime" was very severe, it really makes a long spanking memorable. I am not sold on it and I do not necessarily advocate bare spanking, it just works for me and the boys and I have an understanding that if I spank them, there will be nothing on their bottom. My wife spanked (by hand) bare when the boys were younger. Now that they are "mature" she does not want to spank bare. She now uses a paddle and she spanks over boxers or thin pajamas. The boys would say that Karen actually spanks harder and they say they prefer a spanking from me even though I spank bare and she doesn't. Karen says, "I don't want to see it and I know they don't want to show it." I think the bare or not bare debate is up to each family's dynamic and the knowledge each parent has of their child(ren.) Bare works for me, it may not work for you. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: Why bare? Author: Anthony [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:22:52 09/29/12 Sat I would say that the reasons you listed are pretty much the same with Angela & I. We feel that a bare spanking is much more effective. And I agree that you it's easier to judge when to stop. We still spank our youngest over her pants when she gets the paddle but she does get spanked bare with our hand. Both seem to get her attention quite well. Modesty hasn't really become a big issue in our house yet. We have to remind the kids to put something on sometimes. I still spank both girls bare & the boys are spanked bare by Angela. They haven't made an issue out of being "seen" by either of us yet. We have started to spank the older kids separately instead of together though. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Why bare? Author: Jeff [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:47:42 12/12/12 Wed I agree with the reasons stated here for spanking bare. I actually spank with all the clothes removed, but just baring works fine. I would also add that it reinforces a parents authority as well as being bared or having the clothes removed is very humbling. Just my opinion. The other thing I would say is that I think, if you choose to spank bare, then it should always be bare. As for modesty: My wife stopped spanking when our 2 boys reached age 12. We discussed what we should do about discipline once they got to be teenagers and made the decision to keep spanking. It always worked for us so why not continue. However, since we've always believed in spanking bare we also decided only I would give the spankings. Plus I think as a boy gets older it's kind of a "Dad" thing to handle discipline. If parents choose to keep spanking into the teens I think it should definitely the parent of the same sex - if at all possible. As one Mom's statement here pointed out, and I paraphrase, "I don't want to see their stuff and they don't want me seeing it" [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Why bare? Author: Ann [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 19:16:22 10/02/12 Tue I switched from spanking on the seats of pants to bare a few years ago, have posted in more detail on this subject at the other SWL site, but for me it is as Patterson says, "Frankly it hurts more." Not to be too light hearted, I would also say that the good crisp smacking sound of a brush on a bare butt equates to a good crisp stinging sensation in the same instant...and also it is benenficial to see the results as the bottom reddens. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Why bare? Author: Connor [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:30:38 10/03/12 Wed I agree with Mr. Patterson. All 3 my sons (and sometimes nephew) are spanked on the bare bottom always. Children know if your behavior is childish you gets childish punishment - barebottomed spanking despite culprit's age (sons are now 16, 14, 12, nephew is almost 15). If olders are embarrassed (it's naturally!) to get in front whoever is presence, it's part of punishment. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Why bare? Author: Beverly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:38:55 10/04/12 Thu As I posted in an earlier post, my son, who is 13, started complaining about being spanked bare-bottomed and asked if he could wear shorts or underwear when I spank him. After discussing the issue here on this forum and with other parents within our church family, I have agreed to let Chris keep his underwear on, under certain conditions: 1. He must cooperate before and during the spanking. By this, I mean he must take off his jeans and bend over my lap or the chair WITHOUT arguing or putting up a fight. Also, he cannot try to block the paddle by putting his hand back there. If he is uncooperative, his underwear will come down and the spanking will continue bare-bottom. 2. He will receive several extra swats (2 or 3) when he is spanked with underwear on. 3. Serious misbehavior, such as lying or a discipline report (paddling) from school, will mean an automatic bare-bottom spanking. 4. If he earns another spanking for the same offense within the same week, the second one will be bare. 5. If his dad is home, (he works out of town a lot), he will spank Chris and he will still spank bare-bottom. I think these conditions are workable and fair. I'd like to hear input if you would have other suggestions or comments..... THANKS! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Why bare? Author: Connor to Beverly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:22:14 10/04/12 Thu Dear Mrs.Beverly, it's naturally each family has own rules for raising of children, including methods of punishment. However, your complex of rules looks too complicated, at least, for me. My boys know, if they deserve punishment, they get on the bare bottoms and it's undisputable in our family. Guilty boy has to himself pull down his trousers and underpants and go over my knee. Any attempt of resisting ( even mumble something I'm too old for getting on the bare) is reason for a few adittionaly slaps - sometimes more than a few. It's old family wisdom - "guilty child gets on the bare bottom in front God and everyone." In my own childhood Mom and Dad told (and used!) it numerous times. Now I understand they were right, although, then I had other opinion. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Why bare? Author: Russ [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:42:27 10/05/12 Fri Beverly, I've been following your concerns relative to the punishment of your son and have wondered if and how the issue has been resolved. Thanks for keeping us up to date. Thank you also for indirectly addressing an issue that I've been facing of late with my 8 year old son preceding and during his punishment. He attempts to avoid his licking with a paddle by resisting my attempts to place him over my knee. Once secured over my knee he attempts to disrupt by bucking up and down as I administer the licks. Then, also, he attempts to deflect the paddle with his hand. Concerning this, I like what you have posted in your Condition # 1. I especially like your emphasis upon voluntarily cooperating with the punishment. Removing one's own blue jeans in preparation to be spanked is really part and parcel of what it means to take a licking. A disobedient boy cannot undue what he has done, but he can demonstrate his contrition by willingly accepting and even cooperating with the punishment that he has earned. Yes indeed, I do believe that your 5 conditions are both fair and workable. Do let us know how your son's punishments proceed in the future. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Why bare? Author: Bob to Beverly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:52:40 10/10/12 Wed Hi, Beverly! I do have some comments and questions for you regarding the changes in your disciplinary program. First of all, what was your son's reaction to the changes you made? Did he have any issues or comments to make regarding the changes? The rest of my comments/questions pertain to the listing that you made; 1. Have you had problems in the past (by "the past" I mean say, the past year or so) with him NOT cooperating when he has merited a a spanking? If so, can you tell me something about what happened and why/how he was being uncooperative, and how this was handled by you? That is, how did you react to what he id, and what were the consequences? Has he not cooperated only with you, or also with your husband? Does he routinely take down his own pants/underwear? (Mine do not at this point, and I have simply let them know that when they are 12 years old they will be expected to do so. But, until March, I was inconsistent in having them be spanked bare-bottom.)If he fails to cooperate, is the only consequence that he'll face to be that his underwear will come down and the spanking will continue bare-bottom? 2. Seems reasonable to me; did Chris have any comment here? 3. I completely agree that serious misbehavior would mandate a bare-bottom spanking. My only comment would be that you define as much as is possible what is meant by "serious misbehavior." You did give two examples, the lying and the school disciplinary report, but what about disrespect to an adult , swearing, etc. I understand it's tough to cover every contingency, but children- particularly teens, will look for any possible "out" to win an argument. Therefore, it will be to your benefit to try to define this area as precisely as is possible. It helps that you know your own son, of course, and you can therefore best predict his possible actions. 4. By saying "the same week" do you mean a calendar week, or, do you mean a seven day period? Finally, I commend you on making changes to your methods. Showing Chris that you are willing and able to make changes when merited serves as a great example for him! Bravo, Beverly! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Why bare? Author: SL Sarah [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 00:53:32 10/06/12 Sat In addition to the three practical reasons cited in the OP, I would also add that lowering the pants and underwear helps to restrain the legs. This is particularly useful as the spanking progresses and one begins to encounter resistance in the form of kicking and wriggling. Psychologically, lowering the underwear signifies that the spanker has complete control as well as the intent to inflict maximum punishment. As has been mentioned, the bottom's redness is a very important visual aid. Once the bottom has been reddened I reduce the force of the slaps, as the buttocks become more sensitive to them. This allows me to prolong the spanking, making it more effective. I also pause for longer between each one for the same reason. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Why bare? Author: Gary Steven [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:35:23 10/13/12 Sat Growing up I got always got bare bottom spankings from my mother and a couple from my dad. Mom's reasons for spanking bare were 1. The embarassment lasts longer than the pain. 2. She could tell by the color of our bottom when she had spanked us enough. 3. She didn't have to hit as hard to get her point across. When I spanked my children most of the time it was done bare bottom as well. I might give them what I referred to as an "attention getter" if we were in a place or situation where I couldn't give them a "real spanking". The "attention getters" were usually one or two swats on the seat of the pants or thigh with the promise pulling their pants down and giving them a real spanking if they didn't straighten up. When I spanked bare it was to 1. Let them know what they did was serious enough to merit me to use stronger measures. 2. The embarassment factor. 3. I didn't have to swat hard and I could see the "damage" done. With regard to the third point. When spanking though clothing, you really have no idea if you are spanking too hard or if you are really having any effect on them. Kids can "play it up" acting like you are beating them half to death while in reality they are hardly feeling it when you spank them over clothing (especially jeans). The flip side of that being, you might actually be spanking them harder than you mean to and causing bruising or worse. When spanking on the bare bottom, there is no question as to just how much of an effect you are having. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Why bare? Author: Connor to Gary Steven [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:57:28 10/17/12 Wed "Mom's reasons for spanking bare were 1. The embarassment lasts longer than the pain. 2. She could tell by the color of our bottom when she had spanked us enough. 3. She didn't have to hit as hard to get her point across." Gary, I agree with your mom and you about these 3 absolutely, however, I would like to add the 4th. If big boy considers he is too old for obedience, traditional barebottomed spanking in front family helps culprit and his siblings understand that for parents he is child yet and can't be out of family discipline. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Why bare? Author: JP [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:43:28 10/20/12 Sat It really deals with all the senses, does it not? The sight-seeing a bare bottom redden. The sound- bare skin is louder and crisper. The feel- more ouch to the receiver, bare hand is very maternal. smell and taste are not applied obviously lol [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Why bare? Author: Dana [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 06:46:38 01/02/13 Wed Spankings are given with pants, panties or underwear pulled down. Hubs and I got it that way and feel that it is the way to do it to have the lesson learned. A spanking is punishment for misbehavior. This past year we had occasion to spank the 4 of them together, it was done bare bottom. We agree the reasons listed for spanking bare are pretty universal. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Why bare? Author: Bob Builder [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:01:12 01/06/13 Sun I spank bare bottom for the reasons listed above by most of the posters. As I have 4 boys its not about modesty. I do disagree with spanking older children in front of whoever happens to be there, I think that spankings should be carried out in private whenever possible. I also support agreements that moms and male teenagers come to, whatever works for each family is what should happen. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]