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Subject: Is it me or are pageants more expensive than they’ve ever been? Author: No name [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 18:17:50 07/23/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 238-36-111-172.clients.gthost.com/172.111.36.238 You have pageant coaches charging thousands of dollars for only a few sessions. Photos cost thousands just for 4 edited pictures. Gowns are ridiculously high, with amounts being up to $10,000-$20,000. Fitness coaches are charging thousands for a few sessions. And resellers are charging almost the same price as they bought their stuff. I’m starting to feel that girls are being taken advantage of. I understand this is the industry but goodness, you spend way more to compete, and even winning doesn’t balance out the money spent. How can pageant girls cut down on expenses and do things more cost efficient while still being competitive? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date I see GREAT gowns on Temu No name (syn-035-150-243-214.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.214) 00:14:31 07/24/25 Thu Coaching is one of those things that doesn't make sense why they charge so much. Why would I want to pay someone for their one opinion on everything when im going to be judged by 5 random people? I want many opinions in my preparation. $5k for HMU for a show is ridiculous, and these artists make everyone look exactly the same. Pay attention to the winners of pageants - its pretty common for women to win without spending all that money. You truly don't need to break the bank, even though coaches say you do. (NT) No name (syn-098-146-192-217.res.spectrum.com/98.146.192.217) 06:55:28 07/24/25 Thu Why should photographers, gown designers, choreographers, etc. not get pair what they're worth??? (NT) No name (syn-107-013-036-240.res.spectrum.com/107.13.36.240) 19:27:20 07/24/25 Thu Don’t do it. You heed friends to help you. Family friends that interview people can help you. Win a local and let the local directors and committee help you. Photos don’t win. Don’t spend a fortune on wardrobe. There are so many gowns for sake worn less than five times and not outdated. Be creative. Be smart. Don’t overspend. (NT) No name (dhcp-67-147-253-225.gobrightspeed.net/67.147.253.225) 19:44:43 07/24/25 Thu This would have been good advice 20+ years ago. But now, states are taking at-large contestants and those who win local titles are winning in local pageants where three to five titles are being awarded and there's no scholarship, wardrobe sponsors or even a committee to help you prepare. Women today are more on their own to figure out how to win a state pageant. (NT) -- No name, 01:05:54 07/25/25 Fri (c-98-220-13-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net/98.220.13.180) Boom! That’s the crux of it! I said during Covid the decline in locals would eventually me the decline in pageants. Women getting into pageantry today are on their own more often than not. And without a strong board to maintain Brand and partnerships the cost get passed into the girls (NT) -- No name, 23:47:59 07/25/25 Fri (NoHost/146.75.222.184) What coaches are actually worth it? And which ones aren’t (NT) No name (NoHost/107.123.1.25) 20:43:35 07/24/25 Thu My experience.... -- No name, 23:17:53 07/24/25 Thu (syn-035-150-243-214.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.214) And did it work....if so what titles did you win? And more obvious, what was Cheri's reaction of you winning or doing better without her help? -- And where is or was coach Cheri from...she came to you or you went to her?, 14:23:02 07/29/25 Tue (syn-047-049-055-214.biz.spectrum.com/47.49.55.214) We remained friends. I just took a break from pageants for a number of years. I would still recoommend her for coaching. (NT) -- No name, 17:00:45 07/29/25 Tue (syn-035-150-243-214.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.214) But as the earlier posted above asked, I am too curious to know did you eventually (sooner or later) win or do very well in a pageant? -- And where is or was coach Cheri located and was she a past pageant winner?, 19:38:13 07/29/25 Tue (NoHost/144.92.78.242) I did well when I switched coaches. In retrospect, maybe I was too "programmed?" IDK (NT) -- No name, 12:28:27 07/30/25 Wed (syn-035-150-243-214.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.214) Miss Alabama USA 2021 was from a small town with limited resources who decided to compete for the first time in a pageant by watching old pageants and viewing tutorials on YouTube. She wore an inexpensive simple gown and proved you don't need to spend a lot of money to win. (NT) ureka smoke (ip68-100-118-42.dc.dc.cox.net/68.100.118.42) 14:10:13 07/26/25 Sat Back in the day, you could win a local in a 59.00 dress (usually your prom dress) then you win State in a 250.00 dress. Once you had the state organization behind you they would send you to some hifallutin' designer in New York City to get you ready for the big show. I miss those days. (NT) -- No name, 14:27:38 07/26/25 Sat (202.sub-174-210-72.myvzw.com/174.210.72.202) Back in the day, Miss America sent every state $1000 for wardrobe, which was a LOT back in then. (NT) -- No name, 12:15:22 07/29/25 Tue (c-24-22-73-219.hsd1.or.comcast.net/24.22.73.219) That was 5 years ago, times have changed (NT) -- No name, 12:19:32 07/29/25 Tue (c-67-166-3-229.hsd1.co.comcast.net/67.166.3.229) Tell that to You Tube! LMAO (NT) -- ureka smoke, 13:51:52 07/29/25 Tue (ip68-100-118-42.dc.dc.cox.net/68.100.118.42) Did they still give the 1000.00 as recently as 5 years ago? I thought that stopped back in the early 2000's. (NT) -- No name, 13:56:20 07/29/25 Tue (25.sub-174-210-68.myvzw.com/174.210.68.25) They definitely did in the 2014-2015 ish time frame. Not sure about more recently. (NT) -- No name, 17:23:37 07/29/25 Tue (syn-107-013-036-240.res.spectrum.com/107.13.36.240) Thanks for answering my question. I know a former state queen who competed 4 or 5 years ago. I will ask her if it was made available to her. (NT) -- No name, 15:06:52 07/30/25 Wed (25.sub-174-210-68.myvzw.com/174.210.68.25) What bothers me about coaching is some pageants (notably NAM) say on their web sites that coaching is not needed No name (syn-035-150-243-214.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.214) 17:03:19 07/29/25 Tue No one is winning NAM without a coach and $$$$$ (NT) -- That system is not cheap to win, 22:29:15 07/31/25 Thu (41.sub-97-186-86.myvzw.com/97.186.86.41) That is the one complaint I hear about NAM that you need a lot of $$$$$ -- No name, 12:40:00 08/02/25 Sat (syn-035-150-243-214.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.214) NAM ooks exhausting. So extra and seems you have to "play the game" to win. (NT) -- No name, 13:43:26 08/02/25 Sat (NoHost/69.250.36.194) Why would NAM on their website say that you don't need a coach? When I judged a state pageant I could tell who came prepared and who didn't (NT) -- No name, 22:05:57 08/02/25 Sat (syn-035-150-243-214.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.214)