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Subject: Re: Plausible punishment spankings Author: Alfred22 for Gisela [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 06:14:18 05/02/25 Fri In reply to: Laura82 's message, "Re: Plausible punishment spankings" on 09:08:43 04/17/25 Thu Greetings Gisi, on what I am hoping to be a fruitful Freitag. Let us at our leisure explore "backside" as another interesting linguistic commonality between our two languages. I am casually familiar with "Po" as a rough and tumble synonym for someone's hinternseite. We should be able to exploit the links between a "charging document" such as the infamous "note home" from a teacher to a student's parents that must be returned the next school day signed by a parent AND a "charging cord." Puns such as "I bet she got a charge out of that little communication" perhaps can be indulged in since We are a safe distance apart! Sometimes I am a bit slow on the uptake. We have and use "hiney" (sometimes spelled "heinie") to refer to bottoms. In fact a very memorable assertion from my childhood was the claim the Mrs. Reinschmidt suggested to my mother "Let's blister their heinies!" when her daughter and I had misbehaved. The suggestion was not acted upon but it had quite an effect on both of us. As you might imagine it would have had. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Plausible punishment spankings Author: Gisela [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:23:48 05/02/25 Fri Hello Alfred, we can of course compile the different terms for the “education area”. In my opinion, "Po" is not particularly crude, but rather used in a trivializing way, especially for children. It becomes very clear in the form “Popo”, which is almost only used for small children or ironically. In my opinion, the English equivalent would be “bum”. The really crude term is “Arsch”, which finds its equivalent in ‘arse’ (BE) or “ass” (AE). The English term “bottom” has no equivalent in German. And I have to admit that the image of it as a lower body part doesn't make sense to me either. Perhaps you have an idea where that might come from. But there are some allusions in German to the function of this part of the body when sitting, e.g. as “Sitzfleisch” ("sitting meat" not to be confused with the sit-spot) or as "Gesäß" (also body part to sit on). And finally, we also have the derivation that you normally turn your face to the person sitting opposite you, so your back and bottom are the turned side ("Kehrseite"). Many warm greetings - Gisela [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Plausible punishment spankings Author: Gisela [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:46:54 05/02/25 Fri I always thought the phrase “to blister a heiny” was pretty cruel. Is it really about creating blisters on the skin of the buttocks? Or is it just a term with no technical meaning? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Plausible punishment spankings Author: Alfred22 for Gisela [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:34:31 05/03/25 Sat Greetings Gisi, Ordinary blisters occur from ill-fitting footwear; hiking boots are notorious for doing this. Let's call them friction blisters. The cane and other similar objects create "welts" which are not exactly the same as friction blisters but they are tissue filled with edema. I suspect that any talk of spanking-induced blisters ought to be described differently. I am not sure what the swelling is exactly. I do think few spanking parents are creating anything like the blisters from friction. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Plausible punishment spankings Author: Gisela for Alfred [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:47:02 05/07/25 Wed Well, then I'll take it as an image, like the German "verstriemen" in the sense of to welt a bum. When I read the paraphrase "to blister" I actually always had the physical formation of blisters on the skin in mind. I am very relieved that this was a misinterpretation [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Plausible punishment spankings Author: Alfred22 for Gisela [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:28:42 05/07/25 Wed Greetings Gisi, I had the same concern most of my childhood. I had no idea of the complexities of arranging for the skin on a bottom to be rubbed like the skin on a foot in an ill-footing boot. I did know that what was intended was, at the least, a very intense spanking. So any talk of having my naughty bottom "blistered" was very influential. I am convinced that few moms really did achieve blisters like footwear could after just a mile or two. What metaphors were most prompting of better behavior for your children and if you can recall, for you? Once store clerks teased us after we were detained for attempting to steal packs of small bb ammunition for our air rifles by warning us that our daddies were going "to wear a hole in the seat of our britches!" [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Plausible punishment spankings Author: Gisela [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:24:03 05/09/25 Fri Greetings Alfred, I don't think it were individual, specific phrases that made my siblings and me, or later our children and now my grandchildren, obey. It was and is the awareness that there were/are appropriate correction instruments in the house and the certain knowledge that they would be used on the bottom of a naughty child or rebellious teenager if the occasion arose. And there has never been the slightest doubt about this in our family, even today. When the barrel starts to overflow, typical phrases are: "Your skin/fur seems to be itching" (Dich juckt wohl das Fell) or "You must be tickled by the oat" (Dich sticht wohl der Hafer). Then the child is well advised to be very careful for the time being, but like all kids usually without success in the long term. And of course there are always occasions when prior warnings are no longer appropriate, but the corresponding punishment is due immediately for a sufficiently serious offense. I think that will be similar in the most families. Best wishes - Gisela [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Plausible punishment spankings Author: Alfred22 for Gisela [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 06:38:26 05/10/25 Sat Greetings Gisela, I think that the social science studies of behavior suggest that punishment works best when it is certain, swift, and severe. A good friend told me that he found that the "certain" component was the most important and that he never spanked all that harshly. The spanking moms that I grew up with spanked when earned, always. In their house rule breaking guaranteed a spanking. For me the "awareness that there are appropriate correction instruments IN THE HOUSE and the certain knowledge they would be used on the bottom of a naughty child or REBELLIOUS TEENAGER if the occasion arose" would prompt extremely careful and conscientious behavior. It is ironic that I seem too polite to you. On my too brief visit to your beautiful mountainous country, I felt that many persons I encountered were very patient and that because I was dressed so casually they were more courteous than I merited. I would greatly appreciate the opportunity to return and perhaps to have a conversation with you over tea. I do believe that the very physical presence of implements whose only reason for being is to spank naughty bottoms firmly makes a highly influential statement silently and a much louder statement when employed. We have a version of the oat statement. We say that a person acting out is "feeling his oats." This is more a causal assertion rather than a warning to calm down and it refers generally to the youthfulness of the actor. There is another expression about "sowing wild oats" but it hints at frequent sexual partners. Stay cheerful, A22 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]