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Louise Vancisic Vancisic
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Date Posted: 11:32:53 05/15/25 Thu
Dear Gisela – Here is my subsequent response.
Gisela: Thank you very much for this detailed ‘basic information’. I just don't know if I can maintain this standard, especially as English is not my first language and I'm always afraid that my formulations in this language will sound clumsy and awkward.
Louise: Thank you so much for your detailed response. Your English seems quite good to me so no need to apologize. Where are you from and where do you live now?
Gisela: I think there are some parallels between us. Firstly, the generation. I myself will be 70 at the end of the year, so I'm only 5 years older than you. I too was punished by my parents, as were my two siblings, almost exclusively with spankings. In the case of my younger brother, I remember that when he was just four years old, mum started to formally put him over her knee for more than one slap. I assume it must have been similar with my sister and me. Even though my brother was almost five years younger than me, he always had more freedom than us girls. ‘The boy has to have his own experiences’, we were told, or: “The boy shouldn't become a sissy!” when he once again got away with something that we would definitely have had to pull our pants down for.
Louise: Were you the oldest? Til what age were you spanked? When you say pants are you referring to pants or panties? Did they pull down your brother’s pants too or was that reserved for you girls.
Gisela: Our family wasn't terribly religious, but my father was terribly conservative, especially when it came to gender roles. Girls and women (!) were expected first and foremost to be quiet, not cause trouble and obey. They were not expected to have their own opinions or make their own decisions and ‘talking back’ was probably the most common reason for the spankings I received. This was also the case for my mum, by the way. We were never present, but we knew, and could hear, that father also punished our mother with the cane or the strap. Not as often as us, of course, but it happened once or twice a year. The strap was an old braided, finger-thick dog leash that father used to strap our bum cheeks and thighs.
Louise: Did your mother cry out when your father punished her? How often were you and your sister physically punished and what ages were the peak?
Gisela: Like you, I never enjoyed my punishments. On the contrary: I hated and feared them - but like my mum, at some point I accepted that this is the way the world is and that someone has to be in charge in the family. Unlike my sister, who always rebelled and later refused to have contact with our father until shortly before his death. That may also answer your question about the age up to which I was spanked. My father did it until I was 23 and when I got married in 1979, I agreed to my husband punishing me in the same way. Just like with my mum - not often, but if I was unreasonable, even against my will.
Louise: Why do you think your sister rebelled? Were the two of you close? I never had a sister. I feel that if I had a younger sister that I would try to protect her. I love to write stories about sisters in a spanking family. Do you like spanking stories?
Gisela: So, I actually received my last spanking from my husband 14 or 15 years ago. I know that sounds a bit strange, but my father's upbringing probably brought out a submissive streak in me. I could only ever find men attractive if they were dominant and assertive. With my husband, it was the perfect arrangement. But the spankings always remained punishment and never became foreplay for sex. Or if they did, then only very indirectly, because I loved this type of man so much.
Louise: I envy you. My husband wasn’t at all interested. He also was not supportive of my use of spanking to discipline our children. I stopped using it when my daughter was 10.
Gisela: You can probably guess that our father was the dominant person in our family. When we were very young, our mum still spanked us quite often, but the older we got, the more often dad took over. And when we got too big to be taken over the knee, the punishments came exclusively from him. And unlike your father, Louise, mine had no qualms about getting my bum naked for it. In this sense, he was aware of every stage o f my physical development, which was of course horrible for my sister and me, but so natural for us that at least I never questioned this deeply shameful part of the punishment.
Louise: I take it that your sister did not feel the same way. Were you always spanked bare or did it depend on the offense?
Gisela: How were we spanked? Well, as children we were often spanked over our parents' laps, either by hand or with a wooden spoon, first by mum, then increasingly by dad. From the age of 10 or 11, Dad would put us over the back of an armchair, where we would get it with the aforementioned dog lead. And when we were 13, if I remember correctly, we had to bend over the edge of our dining table. For simple transgressions, there was no spanking with the dog leash; for more serious offences, there was a caning. Usually eight or ten, six if we were lucky. Father would announce the number of strokes beforehand, but sometimes he would give us extra strokes for behaviour during the punishment, for example if we left our position above the table. I don't think I ever received more than 12 strokes.
Louise: Were you or your sister spanked in front of thee other? Did you ever get spanked in front of your brother? Did you mostly wear pants or dresses? Did your Dad pull up your dresses for a whipping?
Gisela: The development of frequency was a little different for us. When we were still going over the knee, it felt like it happened at least once a week. When Dad started using the strap and later the cane, the frequency varied of course, but on the whole I think I probably had to go over the table once every five to six weeks. This tended to be most frequent during puberty, because Dad thought I was always grumpy and snotty and would use bad language.
Louise: Were you or was he just short tempered? Did you still get hand spanking for other offenses?
Gisela: School, on the other hand, wasn't that important - after all, I was just a girl! My father was hardly interested in my school performance and as long as there were no complaints about my behaviour, everything was fine.
Louise: How did your mother feel about school.
Gisela: So, that's all for now. I look forward to further exchange. Warmly – Gisela
Louise: I do too Gisela. If you want to e-mail me my address is lvancisic1@yahoo.com
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