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Date Posted: 22:22:27 04/09/03 Wed
Author: Bingo Booster
Subject: NU Hoop Fan - ADs vote

I am 100% positive that ADs vote on the tournament site. Who do you continue to act as if Monasch hand picks the locale? Every AD has the power to cast his/her own vote, and lobby for their place. The ones that claim they have no chance and that's why they don't submit bids sound to me like ADs who don't WANT the event. It's a simple vote. Count the hands raised.

In addition, your tale about the 2002 conference and the Binghamton contingent had me rolling on the ground.

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[> Re: NU Hoop Fan - ADs vote -- NU Hoop Fan, 23:14:23 04/09/03 Wed

The AD's vote on the locale, the Presidents vote on Monasch and his contract. It's common knowledge among the AD's that the Binghamton thing is a done deal and Monasch is going to force it down the league throats, so schools aren't wasting their time putting bids together.

Dave O'Brien would love to have the event in Boston. It's just not economically feasible. I wish I had enough friends to put up the cash to have it in Boston, but it would be a waste of money. BU won't bid on it again, that's common knowledge. If I'm an AD, and I need to put up about $30-50K to host, I'd rather spend it on my own internal athletic department than on a tournament where odds are I won't get a return. Simple economics.

I'm sure UVM would love to host as well, but I'm not sure they could come up with the cash for the guarantee. Patrick only seats about 3,000 or so, and that might be just enough to get a bid, but Binghamton is going to trump everyone.

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[> [> Re: NU Hoop Fan - ADs vote -- Patch, 08:23:06 04/10/03 Thu

>The AD's vote on the locale, the Presidents vote on
>Monasch and his contract. It's common knowledge among
>the AD's that the Binghamton thing is a done deal and
>Monasch is going to force it down the league throats,
>so schools aren't wasting their time putting bids
>together.
>
>Dave O'Brien would love to have the event in Boston.
>It's just not economically feasible.

I am glad its not in Boston I thought they did a terrible job with it. Great City,the arena and it's bathrooms were filthy. Poor effort by support staff and relatively poor fan support - Hartford and Vermont brought the fans.

I don't care where they have it but let's tey some place that's willing to put the effort forth to try and make it successful.

I wish I had
>enough friends to put up the cash to have it in
>Boston, but it would be a waste of money. BU won't
>bid on it again, that's common knowledge. If I'm an
>AD, and I need to put up about $30-50K to host, I'd
>rather spend it on my own internal athletic department
>than on a tournament where odds are I won't get a
>return. Simple economics.
>
>I'm sure UVM would love to host as well, but I'm not
>sure they could come up with the cash for the
>guarantee. Patrick only seats about 3,000 or so, and
>that might be just enough to get a bid, but Binghamton
>is going to trump everyone.

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[> [> [> Re: NU Hoop Fan - ADs vote -- Dane Pound, 09:56:07 04/10/03 Thu

I agree. Although I admit Binghamton would be alot easier for Albany fans to swallow because it's so much closer. As an Albany fan it pains me to say it but BingU has done a pretty good job in their transition to D1 and there is no reason to think they won't do a good job with the tourney. I think the tourney in a town the size of Binghamton will probably be alot bigger deal for the local community than it was in Boston. Don't get me wrong I don't think it's really "fair" either. Especially to fans from Maine and UNH but we may all be coming back from the tourney next year talking about what a great event it was.

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[> [> [> [> Re: NU Hoop Fan - ADs vote -- Van Lier, 11:58:50 04/10/03 Thu

>I agree. Although I admit Binghamton would be alot
>easier for Albany fans to swallow because it's so much
>closer. As an Albany fan it pains me to say it but
>BingU has done a pretty good job in their transition
>to D1 and there is no reason to think they won't do a
>good job with the tourney. I think the tourney in a
>town the size of Binghamton will probably be alot
>bigger deal for the local community than it was in
>Boston. Don't get me wrong I don't think it's really
>"fair" either. Especially to fans from Maine and UNH
>but we may all be coming back from the tourney next
>year talking about what a great event it was.

Despite all the acrimony displayed in the posts, I think it's fair to say that we all just would like a reasonably-well-planned-and-executed tournament in a location that isn't burdensome to a great percentage of the league's few hard-core fans.

We all agree that Boston the past two years was "pretty decent" at Matthews and "stunk" at BU. And I think it's pretty much a consensus that Bing (or Albany) would do a fine job of hosting.

It's got nothing to do with the "old guard" vs. newcomers. We just yearn for a fairly well run tournament at a fairly central location.

Myself, I plan to attend whether it's in Binghamton, Hartford or Albany. If it's Binghamton, that amounts to two vacation days. So be it.

Bing fans, don't think that our complaining is directed at you. Most AE posters have and will toast our own institutions for their collective lack of motivation/inspiration when it comes to marketing, planning and bidding for something like the conference tournament.

Portland would be a great location for the AE tournament. Nice city. Good (but not great arena). But do I have any faith that our UMaine administration, with all these alums living in southern Maine, could pull it off.

No.

For whatever reasons, there's lots of folks in New England who think the idea of a sporting event is to just sell tickets, open the doors and keep score.

Someday, we may join the rest of the basketball world.

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