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] Date Posted: 13:26:49 04/30/25 Wed Hi, Miracle first of all welcome in here. I read you'd like to chat with someone. Okay. No problem. If you would like to do it I'm here to listen to you and, if possible, to help if that is what you'll need (with the limit of course of my knowledge). [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Miracle to you grandabob. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15:05:25 04/30/25 Wed I seen this message now and thank you. I was not sure if you would want to talk to me or not. Thank you for saying that I am welcome here. I have a lot of things to ask you if it is alright with you. I hate fighting with my moms friend who I feel is like my mom. It is 11 here now and I only came home about twenty minutes ago. My mom I will call her is really upset with me and said anything could happen to me out in the dark and especially because it is so late. I seen lots of other people here talking to each other. But something was different with Tanya and her grandparents and you and the other person. I will admit I have been in a lot of trouble with everything including school and stealing and some worse things than that. I even have weed in my locker and stolen stuff I took out of stores. I hope you don't think I am an awful person for this. Would you mind me given you a hug. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Kevin [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 22:49:58 04/30/25 Wed Hi Miracle This is Kevin in California. I am sorry about this. Would you like to chat confidentially? Hugs (()) Email above Kevinbr4 on Trillian StraightTopDaddy on kik. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: grandpaBob[ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 02:01:45 05/01/25 Thu Hi, Miracle. first of all I'd like to know how old are you as different ages different application of the rules if you know what I mean. Could be interesting to know at least if you are European or American or whatever continent you are living just to have an idea on how it works by you. By my side I'm Italian and a real granddad of 67. Feel free to tell me anything you feel like telling me, whether it's what's making you sad or just a way to vent. BTW I suggest you to not exchange mails with people you don't know at all whatever they say to you. It's for your own sake. Waiting for you post. bye for now [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Miracle to you grandabob. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 03:02:32 05/01/25 Thu Hi again and I was noticing the messages from that girl Tanya and her grandparents and yous because of a few things and including we are almost the same age. I will be 11 soon and live in UK. I am sure the person is nice and I am still not given out an email or anything else though. I am actually supposed to be in school today and I just told my moms friend that I was going into school and they already called her saying that I never turned up. I feel really sad and also bad about different things. My mom's friend is actually like my mom to me. I knew that you were a real person and grandad by everything you have been saying here to the girl Tanya and her grandparents. I would love to go to Italy and thank you for sending me a message back hug. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: grandpaBob[ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:21:11 05/01/25 Thu Hi, Miracle (Do you have a name, please? Otherwise it seems to me like I'm talking to something fake when, in fact, you're a real girl.) Eleven is a really strange age: no more little kid and not yet teenager. Everyone look at you as a kid but you think you're not and so on. So today you skipped school and that is really a big NO! As I'd like to know you better I'll ask you why you did it? Didn't you know the school would have called your "mom"? Tell me, dear, what her would do now with you for that skipping? And most of all, how do you think you should mend for that? Do you think you should be punished for that and which punishment you think would be appropriate for it? Apart of what above, tell me more about you. How was you ended with that your mom's friend? How do you really feel with that arrangement? bye for now. Meanwhile I'd like to send you a hug and a wish for a good night [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Miracle to you grandabob. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:39:57 05/01/25 Thu Hi and sorry for confusing you and that is my real name miracle. I said I will be 11 soon and I don't feel like a kid. My mom is not around anymore and I don't know about my dad. I skipped school because I don't want to go there 😔. I liked looking at how that girl Tanya was talking to you and living with her grandparents. I miss my grandad so much. He would never have let me get away with everything like skipping school and definitely not stealing and the other stuff. I am embarrassed to say that I think I should be in trouble and spanked for everything because I feel terrible about everything. My mom drinks all the time and her friend knows me since I was born. I do love her and she is like my mommy. Thanks for sending me a hug and kiss and you remind me of my dead grandad. I also never came straight home and my mom I will call her was really upset with me and said after tea go to my room for the night. I will give you a hug 🤗 and kiss. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: grandpaBob[ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:01:03 05/01/25 Thu Hi again, Miracle. How your mom's friend dealt with you for the skipping? From what you posted seems she's not in spanking. Did she punished you in some way or just the "go to your room"? For what it could worth if I would be your relative, I would really deal with you in some more strict way but what it may be worth even more, after that I would show you how precious you are for me and how much I care for you. Of course I would never have a blind eye on behaviors like you posted because I feel you are almost looking for a punishment like a sort of confirmation someone is really caring for you. Do you ever try to speak with your current "mom" about all of that and how you feel? Maybe telling her you feel you need some "physical" confirmation she is really caring for you like "please, mum, I really feel I'd need a good spanking and than a lot of cuddles"? Maybe that could really do the "miracle" LOL Let me know what do you think about it Anyway feel free to ask me whatever you would like to know. bye for now. A big hug and have a wonderful night full of sweet dreams [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Miracle to you grandabob. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:55:32 05/01/25 Thu Hi and I felt really silly sending you that message 😔 and because I was fighting with my mom here I am calling her. She just said go to my room and plus I came home late instead of straight away. She said she was really upset with me and I wish she had of maybe spanked me like you said sorry 😔. I feel like I can do anything I want to and nobody cares about me and even though I know she must love me for letting me live here. She does give me hugs and says she loves me and is afraid of something happening to me. I know that you would probably spank me if I was your daughter or granddaughter like Tanya is here. Even though I know I would not like it and it would hurt. But at least I would not feel terrible 😔 about everything going on. Do you mean even if you were mad at me and spanked me you would definitely give me a hug even. I would love that actually and saying that you love me and you said about saying that I am precious and care about me. I am even crying reading this message and writing back to you. You remind me of my grandad who died. I would not even know what to say to my mom here about maybe spanking me. I definitely would want cuddles afterwards though. That was funny adding that about a miracle lol. I wonder what it is like to have a daddy and mom who wants me instead of other things and people instead of me. I always mostly cry going to sleep 😴 and feel horrible about myself. You must be a really nice grandad and your grandkids are lucky and so is Tanya. I will be honest with you and I even smoked some of the hash I have out my bedroom window so nobody smells it. I would not mind if you even gave out to me and saying spank me and at least you would be caring for me and maybe tuck me into bed sorry 😔. Thank you for the hug from the last time and for saying sweet dreams and here is a hug 🫂. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: grandpaBob[ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15:12:14 05/01/25 Thu Dear Miracle, we all can see how much you are in need of a lovely hand guiding you firmly through and out of all your troubles. What I'm not sure to understand about your current mom is if she is just frightened to take you firmly by hand or she's one of the "just-speak-to-kids" people if this has a meaning for you. This is something I cannot know from here. So, by now, I may only suggest you, tomorrow morning, go to your mom, ask her to listen to you carefully and tell her what you feel inside in relation to the bad behavior of the past few days and that you think it could be of great help if she decided to punish you with a nice traditional spanking on your bare bottom and then pick you up and give you also all the cuddles you feel so much need. If she will do it maybe could be the start of a new life for you and her. Maybe you could also make her read what we two post each other in here. If she will like to have a talk with me here feel free to let her know I'm available. Just consider I'm usually on line around evening. Bye for now and let me know how it will go Hugs and kisses [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Miracle to you grandabob. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 03:41:34 05/02/25 Fri Hi and I fell asleep last night sorry 😞 and I was at a meeting with my moms friend who I am calling my mom. Anyway I was with her in my school with the school principal and they had me waiting outside for ages with the secretary or whoever she is. Then my mom and school principal called me in and spoke about everything I was doing and even about things outside school. My teacher ended up coming into the office and they were saying words like my conduct and behaviour in school and about missing days and failing grades and not completing my school work. I was getting given out to by them and my school principal was making me look at them and even slammed his hand on the desk and said listen to him and my behaviour and other things have been unacceptable at school and said that he knows that I can do much better than i am doing. My teacher said that also about when I apply myself and turn up I am the smartest little girl. But my school work is not been completed and other things. My mom was after telling them about everything I was doing at home and including stealing and lying and other things. I was not able to stop crying and the school principal said if I was his daughter he would give me something to cry about and said he expects big changes in my behaviour and attendance from next week and we will be having a discussion next week again. My teacher said she expects the same thing and will be calling my mom every day and making sure I have my school work done and my mom here said she will make sure I am brought right up to my classroom from now on and I said that is ridiculous and everyone will laugh at me. But my school principal said excuse me young lady and you will apologize to your mommy now and I am a child and will listen to her or anyone else in charge of me and I said sorry. He said he knows that I can be a wonderful girl and said they will see me next week. I am in my room now crying 😭 and my mom is downstairs doing something. But she said she was not done with me yet. I said I want to show you something please mommy and she said she will look at it soon. I am so nervous about everything and I will show her what you said here. She said before I remember her saying to my mom about discipline and stuff. But my mom was always drinking and out all the time mostly. She is a bit strict with me. But I never listen to her and was used to doing whatever I wanted to do. I have been here for ages and not just a few days. I will tell you about it later on sorry 😔 and thanks for sending me hugs and kisses. Here is a hug 🫂 and kiss back. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: grandpaBob[ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:34:59 05/02/25 Fri My little Miracle, I always feel sad when I read about your real mom and I can really relate to how it went in the office at school because it is a situation I have seen many times a long time ago when I was young and worked with problematic children. School nowadays has a lot of restrictions about discipline so public school will no more allowed to spanking but principals, teachers and families may do a lot working together to solve troubles like the ones you are suffering. If your current mom will desire it I'll be more than eager to discuss with her about all the matter and maybe help in taking you out of such a world of sadness and loneliness. Love you, little one. Hugs, kisses and a good night full of wonderful dreams [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Cassidy to grandadbob. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:44:51 05/02/25 Fri You will have to excuse me and I am not even sure how to start this conversation with you. I was talking to miracle as you have already guessed since I am responding to your message. Miracle has come from a completely broken home and her father was a violent alcoholic with severe mental health problems. Her mother and my friend is as you know an alcoholic and also suffers with depression. Miracle has been allowed to do whatever she liked from the begging basically and things just got progressively worse over the years. She has been living with me for the last few months and trying to get her to follow my house rules and any simple tasks is a battle. She had been coming home after twelve when living with her mother. She should not even be out alone at her age unless directly playing outside were I can keep an eye on her of course But trying to ground her and discipline her has been a nightmare to be honest with you. Please don't get me wrong and you can probably guess by her messages to you that she is a sweet child and just really struggling with everything life has thrown at her. I am almost certain that she has suffered abuse and she won't say anything about it and I certainly won't push her into saying anything yet. She often wants to cuddle with you and goes into almost a toddler mode and will throw tantrums and then switch and believes she is all grown up and despite her not being eleven years old. She was wiped out today and I probably firmer with her today than I ever had been. She was trying to get out of the house and I kept putting her on a naughty step and this went on for over two hours and she eventually stayed there and sobbed her little eyes out and was even stomping her feet and I was scolding her about it. She had shown me your messages and said I should just spank her and I was not sure what to do. I was spanked growing up and I know that it has not done me any harm. She basically cried herself to sleep and it was the first time she did not argue with me given her a bath and putting her to bed. Over an hour ago which was not even eight. I should have started by saying thank you for this and she was really drawn to you and the young girl Tanya I believe living with her grandparents. I also should have mentioned that while she was snuggling up on my chest and whining about something. I said we were going to make big changes in our home and I plan on spanking her in the morning to show her how serious mommy is. But she said she was sorry and actually called me mommy and I was expecting a tantrum and she said alright mommy. Though in the morning it will probably different. I am honestly not even sure if I should use my hand or something else. You seem like a wonderful person and I am extremely grateful for your love and compassion for miracle. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Lindsay to Cassidy [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 14:21:19 05/02/25 Fri Hi Cassidy sweetheart, Just like you I feel like I'm butting in here but I know Grandpa Bob and know him to be a good man. We currently have 16 kids on something called maintenance spanking here in this forum. We have had several girls just like Miracle who have come to us from broken homes in all kinds of behavior problems and we have literally turned their lives around. It's really almost magic, or in your case a miracle. All of the kids are 9 years old through 13, so Miracle fits perfectly into that group at 10. It sounds like Grandpa Bob has already done the Spade work, so that's done for you tell me you lucky person. Several here have not been so lucky and they've had to talk their kids into it. So here's how it works. You need to sit down and have a conversation with her which it sounds like you already have and tell her that this new thing called maintenance sessions is coming to the house. Tell her this is not a punishment, but to help her with everything. You need to, between the two of you, to pick two days a week. Most of your use Wednesdays in the afternoon or evening and Saturday during the day. Once you have chosen the two days, she needs to understand that this is not a flash in the pan, but will be going on for the foreseeable future. So let's say every Wednesday before dinner or after dinner you will have one of the sessions. Once it is scheduled, she needs to show up for the session, then go to her room and take all her clothes off and fold them neatly and then come back to the lounge and wait for you. Then you come in, sit down and she needs to stand in front of you with her hands at her side and the two of you have a discussion about how everything is going, including life, School, sports if she's involved in anything, and absolutely anything else she wants to talk about. This conversation typically takes about 15 minutes but has gone on as long as 45. It's important not to interrupt the conversation if it's going really well. Then, once the conversation is over, she needs to say to you please spank me. This sounds really corny but all 16 of the children do this and like this. You may have to ease into that one. Then you take her over your lap and give her 20 medium hard space with your hand until she is crying pretty well and then let her up to dance around the room if she wants to. Then if she has misbehaved, at some point in the last three or four days or whenever the last session was, you take her back over your lap and give her up to 10 strokes with a lexan paddle, easily obtained online, which will never leave any marks in his gentle on the skin. Keep in mind some weeks she will be an angel and you will need zero strokes during this part. Then, once she dances this off, you invite her back onto your lap and she's straddles your legs facing you probably crying, and you proceed to soothe her in comfort her by rubbing her face, neck, shoulders, arms, legs, tummy all the while telling her how much you love her and what a good girl she is. This goes on for 15 or 20 minutes but has lasted over an hour. It involves lots of hugging and kissing. Once it feels like it is coming to an end, then give her a big hug and a kiss and tell her what a good girl she is and then send her on her way to get dressed and continue on with the rest of the day. You can read about these sessions in the kids on words all throughout this forum. Be aware that almost all the parents have integrated rubbing their private parts into this and you can just ignore that if that makes sense to you. That has evolved over time without my recommendation or condoning it, but an uncle up in northern England started doing it with his niece and it spread like wildfire. So just ignore that if it makes no sense. The important thing is that this is not a punishment. This is just a reminder to stay on track and a bonding experience for the spanker and the child. And it works like magic. 100% of the children who came into the program with problems are now well adjusted and productive kids. In fact the reason that I do this is because it has been so rewarding to watch the transformation of kids from really troubled youth to good kids who are positive and productive. I'll be happy to help you with any questions along the way. I'm assuming you're at the UK, so just so you are aware, I'm in Hawaii and am 11 hours off of you, so if I don't reply right away you'll understand. An easy rule of thumb is that whatever time it is there, it's an hour later here on the other side of the day. So if it's 6:00 in the afternoon there, it's 7:00 in the morning here. If you write me at 12:00 noon your time, it will be the middle of the night here and you probably won't hear for several hours. Best of luck to you. If this wasn't so successful, I would never butt into a conversation like this one. Fortunately I know Grandpa Bob and know him to be a great guy. Best to you and take care, Lindsay [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: grandpaBob[ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15:06:21 05/02/25 Fri Hi Lindsay. What you said is correct but I think here we have to start much further upstream as while the other kids you are talking to were already in a certain kind of bond with their uncles, parents, etc. Here there is a very fluid situation still to be stabilized. Dear Cassidy, I think it would be possible to implement something of the Lindsay's maintenance but at the moment I'm feeling it would be better to start like granddad Bill did with Tanya. What I'm suggesting is to have a serious talk with Miracle about what it is expected from her, tell her in clear terms what would happened if she will not follow the rules and just to make it clearer, as soon as she will say she is accepting the new rules, undress her like you could do with a toddler until she'll be totally nude in front of you with arms on her side or crossed on her back and legs apart. At that point you'll say her to ask you to be spanked for all the things she did in the last times, turn her on your laps and than proceed with her first spanking. When you'll have finished let her sit on your laps, cuddle her with a real strong physical contact and let her calm down than ask her if she's feeling better. After a session like that you could maybe give her a warm bubbles bath (Tanya loves that) and let her feel really loved. If sometimes she would want to go out while you said her she's not allowed to I may suggest the way granddad Bill used with Tanya: she was made to remain totally nude except for going to school or shopping (authorized outgoing) for a certain amount of time (first time if I don't remember wrong Tanya was made nude for about a couple of weeks). That's all for now. Those were just some guide lines on which you (or we if you will prefer) have to work a path. It could be of help to have the support of a group like the church group of Tanya if something like that would be available. Well I will be here for any further info you would find needed. Hugs and kisses to sweet Miracle [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Lindsay to Grandpa Bob and Cassidy [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:45:01 05/02/25 Fri Hi there everyone, GB, I appreciate your point of view here but you may not know that there were at least three roughly equivalent situations where there wasn't a bond already formed and it was formed through the magic of Maintenance sessions. So Cassidy like I said I have tremendous respect for Grandpa, but that is actually been conquered if you will within this program. The outline said he is suggesting sound good to me and are very similar to what I set out for you. I would challenge you to have the discussion and then try this for a couple of weeks and I'm willing to bet money that you're going to see huge turnaround. And that bonding that you're concerned about Grandpa Bob I predict will almost magically take place for Miracle. So I would plead with you to just try it for a couple of weeks and if it doesn't work out, you can always go back to something more along the lines of Grandpa Bob's idea which actually is pretty close to our maintenance outline. Thank you and lots of luck. I'm always somewhere around this forum and you can always start a new thread, which you obviously know how to do, to discuss any questions you might have as this rolls along. Best of luck to you, and love your way, Lindsay [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Cassidy to grandpabob. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 03:52:01 05/03/25 Sat Hello and yous will have to excuse me. But I was a bit overwhelmed with the messages and was quite unsure exactly what was happening to be honest. I should say first thank you both for your messages and care. I have managed to work my head around the messages somewhat. Lindsay and you seem like a terrific young lady from all I have seen. But I am honestly not sure about that at the moment and I am unsure about it. But I would absolutely never rule anything out. Thank you so much and please do feel free to message miracle and I anytime. But I feel that because she had been seeing the constant messaging with the other young girl Tanya and this wonderful man as you so kindly pointed out. I feel like miracle has made a connection somehow with the similarities with her and Tanya. She seems to have from what I have seen gone through similar experiences in their lives and which they never should have. But please note that I am interested in chatting with you and thank you for this.............. Grandpabob I should have told Cody that I tried a few times to send you a message from earlier on. Miracle is currently in her bedroom and nude crying and I went along with everything you said here. I had a feeling that despite her saying yesterday about being spanked she would possibly charge her mind and it was indeed the case. But despite her protesting and struggling with me. I remained firm and it took quite a while with a few Sharp smacks on her covered bottom to get her to listen to me and go over house rules and expectations. I of course told her she was like a daughter to me and I could not love her anymore than I do. We talked for almost an hour about everything and of course there is more to talk about. But once she agreed with the spanking going to be introduced to her as part of discipline. She was starting to say something about it and I said stand up right now young lady and she was staring at me and I said I said stand up now and she was crying through the whole process as I began taken her socks off and went to remove her pj top and I had to slap her bottom three times and I removed her top and Pj shorts and no panties. I told her to stand still and she of course was saying sorry to me and I said glad to hear that sweetie. Now hands down and look at mommy and I needed to turn her face to me several times to get her to look at me. I told her again that I love her and she is my little girl and precious to me. But her bad behaviour is not going to be accepted anymore. I said over my lap and she was protesting saying sorry mommy and please don't spank me. I said you are not listening to mommy and brought her across my lap and spanked her for several minutes with my hand and I hope you don't mind this. But I landed several hard smacks on her bottom to finish her hand spanking and said you can take these from grandpabob and I could not believe she said sorry Grampa bob as though you were delivering them personally and I will be honest with you I tried not to smile. But also I felt some satisfaction knowing that this is exactly what she needs and I had already dug out a paddle that my parents used on me and was in the attic with other things belonging to our family from many years ago. I gave her double her age which I thought you mentioned. But she was a wreck and she got of my lap and danced around the lounge like doing the Riverdance holding her bottom and thighs and sobbing with snots and tears. I waited for several minutes and until she stopped dancing and said come over and she immediately said she loves me and my heart was melting and I said you know that mommy loves you more than anything. We talked for ages and she drifted off to sleep for a bit while she had asked me to please rub her bottom. I set her down on the sofa for a nap and she woke up almost an hour later and said she was supposed to see her friends. Smiling here sorry and you would think she was a business woman late for a business meeting saying she had to meet her friends lol. I said sorry sweetie and you are not going anywhere until mommy says otherwise and certainly not on your own from now on like we talked about. But she was starting to whine and went to go to her bedroom and said she was getting dressed. I immediately sat down on her bed and put her struggling over my lap again and said mommy said no and no means no. You are just a little girl and will listen to me. I said now you will be staying undressed until I say so and no phone or iPad because I know that she can talk to her friends through those. She immediately started stomping her feet and I grabbed her hand and spanked her several times again and said you know what you stay here and think about your behaviour young lady and if I hear you having a tantrum mommy will come back in and spank you again. She jumped on her bed face down of course and was hitting her pillow which is fine though. I checked in on her and she never even noticed me as she was half asleep reading. Thank you so much for everything and I forgot to add she said while cuddling with me mommy Grampa spanks hard lol. Her Grampa was the closest thing to a father figure she had in her young life. I am sending love your way and your families and of course you too beautiful Lindsay. I will have miracle send you a message and please feel free to be firm if you want to. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Lindsay to Cassidy [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 04:57:12 05/03/25 Sat Hi Cassidy sweetheart, Is the middle of the night here but I felt it was important enough to send you a quick message. What you just pulled off where the very outlines of a maintenance session. I suppose I would like to have seen more cuddling with her but outside of that it was exactly one of our sessions. The nice thing about an actual session is that you won't have the fighting or coercion involved having to grab her and put her over your lap. Once you have that initial discussion and decide to do the sessions and schedule them, as you said she will act more like a businesswoman and show up on time and undressed for the session. Yours sounds exactly like several of the girls starting out before the sessions started to work their magic and kick in. It's really pretty simple. Once again this is not a punishment although the punishment can be delivered with the paddle if she has earned any when you do the 1 to 10 strokes on the second part of the spanking. But the great thing is, it sounds like you had a productive discussion with her and then turn her over your knee. That's exactly the way a session works, except it's very calm and the discussion is very deliberate and then she expects this banking to come and then they extensive cuddling. I was pleased that she even anticipated a session style cuddling when she asked you to rub her bottom. That's an important part of the cuddling and holding and kissing that's involved in a session. It's not uncommon for the child to fall asleep either. That would indicate a successful session. But do you see what I mean Cassidy? During the session there is no arguing or having to grab arms or anything else. She comes willingly, discusses her behavior at length and then the girls actually ask for the spanking, which might take a while for miracle. I love her name by the way. Then after this banking comes the considerable cuddling and finally sending her on her way to put her clothes back on and resume her day. I really like that Grandpa Bob has introduced the whole idea of speaking to her and how important it is, and that really sets the table for consistent sessions. The sessions just become part of routine and the girls have made this remarkable turn around, in several cases a 180° turn in their lives. I have several parents that you can talk to who consider it an incredible blessing for their family and thank me regularly for just that. Anyway, it's up to you. It's so much better than occasional spanking for punishment, there's no comparison. Cody is a good friend of mine by the way and is a big advocate of maintenance. Tanya was already into a routine after a very difficult childhood but she has maintenance sessions once a week on Wednesdays, sometimes with the pastor of the church, but rotating between three gentlemen, her grandfather, her mentor in her pastor. It works very well for her. Good luck to you Cassidy and I'm happy to talk with you anytime. If you want to start a new thread just about maintenance I'll be happy to participate but please remember that it may take me several hours to reply. Speaking of which, I'm going to go back to sleep now and I hope that you choose to implement a session or sessions with Miracle on a regular basis. Sending love your way, Lindsay [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: grandpaBob[ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 06:37:26 05/03/25 Sat Very well done, Cassidy. It is natural that kids try their way out even when they agreed first with the spanking but you demonstrated her you are firm in your intentions and will. With you firmness you'll help Miracle to remain firm in her willing to change despite the "fear" of the spanking. Letting her nude for some time will help her to understand she's not the one who rules life and, as you said her, if you, her reference person, say no that means NO! Like Lindsay said it's really important the cuddles part at the end because while the former part means I'm who set up the rules for your well being, the latter has to give to Miracle the clear message that "you are the most important thing for me in the world, I absolutely love you and I never ever will do anything to harm you". So, after your sessions, feel free to go with rubbing, cuddling and everything you know Miracle just loves to receive. At the beginning it will surely be not easy because she's just a kid and not used to be ruled but as inside herself she perfectly knows she need it (she said it herself) and she wants it don't give up and go on this way. I don't know where exactly you live but if you are near enough to Tanya grandparents they have a really strong bounded church group which surely might help you both along the "good path". I know they lived near London but I'm not sure in which direction but I think it would be possible for you to be in touch with them too. I'd like to know from Miracle's side how it is going on. Hope to read her soon. Oh, btw, as Lindsay said about the other kids she is following in maintenance, due to some private initiative by some of those parents, I don't feel Miracles should go and read about their sessions. That's just my opinion and at the end you are the only one to make decision about it. Bye for now Hugs and kisses to Miracle [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Cassidy to grandpabob and Cody. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 07:41:07 05/03/25 Sat I am out at the moment and not really able to reply properly to your messages. I will respond properly later on. But I wanted to check in with you both and say thank yous and much love from miracle and I. I will have her send you both a message also. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: grandpaBob[ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 11:48:59 05/03/25 Sat Hi Cassidy it seems Miracle is behaving like it was expected. At the beginning it's always not easy as the old habits are hard to break but you don't have to desist. Now this is the most important stage, where you can set your own rules and pave the way for a wonderful Miracle's future or, if you desist, to lose everything with no chance to regain it. In this moment Miracle is like a wild little horse and you have to work good to maintain her inside the safe boundaries you created for her. From her current behavior you can already sense that she wants to stay within her safe enclosure but, on the other hand, her wild spirit, underneath, pushes her to force your hand. Just continue to be strong and coherent with yourself and your rules; in all likelihood this acute phase will not last long than should begin a period of "peace" during which, however, you should not let yourself go because there could probably be some "rekindling" from time to time. Anyway, the more you'll go further on this path, the more likely Miracle will become easier to live with. For these first times you will have to be very strict and never have a blind eye on anything; it's very important Miracles understands well life is changed and nothing will ever be like before. Every time you'll have to deal with her, for the good as for the worst, make incontrovertibly clear to her that you love her above all else and you care for her more than anything else in the world. If Miracle will post to me I'll be ready to reply her [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Cassidy to grandadbob. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:48:17 05/03/25 Sat Hello again and I have just got home now with miracle and unfortunately she was acting up out in the store. She has done this many times before while we have been out in public. I bent down several times to get to her level and scolded her about her behaviour. I said a few times I want her to stop it now and behave herself and she said she was going to go off on her own. I ended up given her a few swats on her skirt covered bottom and one lady thankfully said to her listen to mommy and behave yourself and miracle looked like she wanted to say something. She stood arms folded and would not move. I was half way through shopping for groceries and put the trolley aside and took her hand with her dragging along and protesting of course. I ended up smacking her bottom several times and told her to walk now. She was not aware that I was bringing her into one of the bathrooms with a large stall and immediately pulled her skirt and panties down and over my lap and spanked her until she was crying properly and saying sorry mommy. I stood her up and said was she ready to be a good girl and do as mommy says. She was trying to be stubborn and stood given me daggers and I simply put her back over my lap and spanked her again and said was she now ready to do what I said mommy is in charge and you are a little girl. She said yes sobbing her eyes out and I added a dozen more smacks to be sure. I had her stand up and she wanted a hug and I gave her one of course and helped her get dressed and washed her face and back to shopping. I told her she was going to bed early and no arguing with mommy. She was told to hold onto the shopping trolley and not go anywhere and she was not happy about it though and thankfully she did it despite one hand furiously rubbing her bottom. Thank you so much for your kind words and encouragement and support here. You are correct about kids saying one thing and doing another and I was well aware that she was going to change her mind regarding the spanking. I appreciate your kind words and just like this mornings spanking I believe she thought I would not follow through outdoors. She is undressed now again and sitting on the sofa while I prepare tea and then straight to bed with her. I honestly appreciate you and the young girl Cody and I will reply to her soon. Of course I will cuddle with miracle after discipling her and it was amazing how she fell asleep in my arms after getting spanked. You seem to have a great rapport with that little girl Tanya and miracle is definitely smitten with you also. She will send you a message before she goes to sleep. She has already said she changed her mind on spanking lol and I of course ignored her and said she is a child and I am the mommy and adult and I set the rules here and she is going to follow them or face the consequences. I do appreciate Cody and I have no doubt by reading her messages to some of the parents and their children it works. But I will just go with what you spoke about for now with miracle. I almost forgot to say that I told her our messages were private and kind of funny she said was I going to tell Grampa which obviously means you. I said yes I most certainly will be telling him about your antics and she was saying that she was sorry. That young girl Tanya and her guardians/grandparents seem like a wonderful family and and indeed very similar it seems how miracle has so far growing up in a terrible environment for a child. Once again please feel free to scold her if you feel it is necessary Hun and thank you so much. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Cody to Cassidy [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 11:53:45 05/03/25 Sat Hi lovely Cassidy, I think you're mixing me up with Lindsay, which I actually take as a big compliment. Even though I'm very much impressed with her and consider her friend and support everything she does, I'm not involved in the 16 kids that she manages the maintenance sessions for. I think if you'd ask a little Tanya however who her best online friends are there is no question it would be me and Grandpa Bob. And I agree, she came from a terrible background and it's so lucky to be with her grandparents in a beautiful house with her own room versus having to share a room with several addicts and not knowing if her stuff was even safe from day to day. I love her very much and I'm starting to love your little Miracle. I would however recommend that you take Lindsay up on doing two minute sessions a week with Miracle. These really do work wonders and for instance the situation at the store would have been greatly tempered or gone completely if Miracle had been under maintenance. It really is a miracle the way it works and has worked for a little Tanya. Please just try it out. I know that Lindsay will give you all the help that you need. I know exactly what every part of Tanya looks like and that makes it much easier to visualize as I hear about her adventures and even her misadventures. I don't however know the way that Miracle looks. For instance, is she a blondie like Tanya? Does her hair go past her shoulders? I think she is also 11 years old. Has she come anywhere near puberty? Have her nipples started too develop on her chest or does she have any hair on her vulva? As Grandpa Bob can vouch, Tanya is always telling us about what is going on with her vulva and bottom, particularly during spankings. She has no development whatsoever on her chest, so of course that is never mentioned, but her attention to the other parts when she is being punished or stood for a punishment, is actually kind of funny because she mentioned it so much, LOL. Lots of luck with everything and please don't hesitate to contact Lindsay or Grandpa Bob for anything. I'm happy to chat with you as well, although I'm really just Tanya's good friend. Very best to you and let me know if I can help, Cody [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: curious to Cody [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:19:02 05/03/25 Sat you seem to ask the same questions about the looks of the girls that lindsay asks. from the color of hair and length, to puberty, nipples, hair on her vulva, etc. and you too are pushing for maintenance spankings even though the girl's guardian already expressed no interest in maintenance, that you and lindsay could be one and the same. i have to wonder. why is it if the guardian says she is not interested you two keep suggesting it? lindsay can't even keep up with the 16 parents she is already involved with, let alone the kids themselves having to ask where she is. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Cody to curious [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:31:16 05/03/25 Sat You are pretty funny. I take being confused with Lindsay to be a huge compliment. Not only is she a bunch of years older than I am, she's a lot wiser than I am in my opinion. I think maintenance is working very well for Tanya and all these other girls. That's the only reason that I'm recommending it so strongly. Plus let's face it, Lindsay does a great job in motivating all of these 16 girls and maybe more. Guilty as charged that we are friends, but that's about where the similarity ends. I love her very much and think she's doing a world good here. I understand that she is not too pleased with you, so I would expect you to think oddly of me or any of her friends. Have a good day, Cody [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: grandpaBob[ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:13:22 05/03/25 Sat Hi again, Cassidy and Miracle after I posted a reply to Cassidy in here I though of a way to have a private conversation with mom distinct from the chats with Miracle. I don't want to sort of exclude you from something, sweetheart, but sometimes adults need to have a little talk privately and not suitable for kids. If we all agree with that I'll suggest to use the wording "(RESERVED)" for those posts Miracles doesn't have to read as they will be an adult private conversation. Is it okay with both of you? Bye for now. Hugs and kisses for our super girl Miracle [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Miracle to you grandabob. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:24:55 05/03/25 Sat Ummmm hi again and I cannot stop crying and cannot believe i am in bed since after 7 and mommy is beside me now and won't let me look at other messages. I kind of got into trouble with my mommy when we were out shopping ok and everything is changing really quickly here for me. My bottom is killing me 😭 and back of my legs and it hurts so much and I barely was able to sit down in the car or having my tea. My mommy took my clothes off me and I wanted to see my friends today ok and my mommy said no to me and said no more going out on my own. My mommy spanked me very very hard and fast for ages ok 😭 and i even got spanked in a bathroom in the store. I gave her hugs and daddy said sorry 😐 to my mommy. I would not even be home by now and now it is only past eight and I have been in bed for ages ok 😭. My mommy said she loves me more than anything and made lots of rules and said about boundaries to me. It is impossible to sleep on my back now over my bottom ok and I am writing this on my tummy because of my bottom. I hope you are not mad at me over what happened ok 😭 and I am very sorry 😔. My mommy said she was taken some of my clothes and throwing them out because I should not be wearing them and other things I stole will be given back to the shops. I feel really sleepy right now and I hope you don't mind me given you a hug ok 🙏😭 and I should say goodnight now and I guess I love you too. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: grandpaBob[ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:39:06 05/03/25 Sat Hi Miracle, sweetheart. I know it could be a tough period for you now but always think it's just and exclusively for your own good and yes, the after-effects of a good spanking could be painful. She's right saying she loves you more than anything because that is what a person who cares of someone feels. I didn't know you stole anything from a store. Wow, girl, you were very naughty. I'm almost tempted to say to your mom to give you a bare bottom spanking directly there in the shop at the presence of the shop owner. How would you feel if she will do it? What do you think would be the punishment you feel you deserved for stealing? Bye for now Good night a nice dreams Hugs and kisses [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Miracle to you grandabob. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 02:07:51 05/04/25 Sun I was trying to send you a message for ages. My mommy is doing something right now. But could you please tell my mommy to let me go out with my friends. I am able to get the bus all on my own because I have done it lots of times before ok 😫 and she said no all the time to me. I hate going to bed early and I was trying to keep my eyes open and not go to sleep. But I could not help it though and sorry for the stealing ok and I was annoyed with my mommy. I cannot believe how much my thighs and bottom hurts and especially my bottom. My mommy said she was also tempted to spank my bare bottom right on the spot in front of them. You would not actually have done that would you really though ok 😔😭 sorry. I would not like that one bit at all. I was trying to get dressed earlier and my mom said what do you think you are doing little girl and I said getting dressed to see my friends. But my mom said I have five seconds to take my shorts off and put them and my panties back in the drawers and I was getting p off and said I needed to see my friends mom. But she said I don't need to see anyone. But I do need to listen to mommy and now too late and smacked my legs and took them off me and I said it was not fair because I want to see my friends and my mommy just smacked my bottom and said no and now come with her and I was crying and saying please mommy and I need to see my friends. But she just was holding my hand and took me to the kitchen and got the paddle and said over her lap now and I was saying sorry. But my mom said if I say no once more she will spank me longer and I said ok ok and went over her lap and she spanked me and was saying about what did we talk about saying no to mommy 😭 and was told to stand up and she put my nose in the corner of the kitchen near our fridge and said don't you dare rubb that bottom. I don't want to stay like this because my mommy is having friends over for lunch and they are going to see me. I am also not allowed to have a telly in my room or do loads of things I used to do. My mommy said we were also getting rid of lots of my clothes because I should not own them and taken things back to places i took them from. You know that there is to many rules and my mom was cuddling with me again and said she was sorry she had to spank me and I said she didn't have to do it. But she said don't be cheeky with me and said she didn't want to do it. But will not let me behave like I have been behaving for a long time and she gave me a hug and a bath. You remind me of my Grampa and I miss him so much. What are you doing today and I really want to see my friends. Thank you for the hugs and kisses and hugs and kisses to you. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Cassidy to grandadbob. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:21:14 05/03/25 Sat I cannot believe miracle is asleep already and I cannot remember the last time she was in bed or should I say home and in bed this early. I should probably start a new thread for her and I noticed the link you made for our private conversation away from miracle. She is exhausted and was talking to me in her bed and saying she was not tired and was asleep while I rubbed her hair and back. Thank you so much for everything and I will get around to sending that young girl Cody a message and for some reason I mixed up a name. Miracle will see your message in the morning. I was very tempted to spank her in front of those in the store for what she done. Our love to you and your family. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: grandpaBob[ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 02:32:08 05/04/25 Sun Hi Cassidy, dear. As you may see this is a post just for you. Miracle will never have to read it because this is an adult talk and she have to understand adults are adults and kids are kids. If she'll read this post she'll have to be severely punished. I'm glad you are gaining some success with Miracle's training. We both know, for the moment, it will be more than enough what I predict will be almost a daily spanking session until her will start to really understand what it is expected by her so it is too early to speak about maintenance which will come in the picture only later. For now I would continue with naked time while at home whatever will be her behavior for a couple of weeks. That means she will have to be totally nude every moment since she put her foot inside the entrance door till the moment right before to go out just to make her understand she's not who make the rules. I don't know if you live in an apartment or a cottage with garden, anyway the rule will be valid everywhere within the property limits and whoever it could be in the house (if you feel it too harsh you may permit her to go in her room whenever some one other is in the house, that's just up to you even if I suggest you to not do it). Of course every time she'll misbehave even a little, it is advisable to give her a spanking (your choice if only by hand or by a lexan paddle which is very effective without leaving marks) and, if you will feel it useful, a prolonged naked time to add to that she's already paying. Adding to that I suggest an attentive selection of who Miracle will be permitted to hang out (families too); it's really important she'll hang out with kids subdued to similar rules to hers and that's why I said in favor of a church group like the one by Tanya where all the people are pro-spanking and helping each other with respective kids. Let me know what do you thing about all of the above and ask whatever you'll find needed. Bye for now from grandpa Bob [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: grandpaBob[ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 02:48:20 05/04/25 Sun Hi, Miracle, sweetheart. How are you today? I read you had some intense moments with your mom yesterday and I hope you'll have great benefit from moments like that. It's very important for you and your mom to become very close to each other so you'll always be able to give one other help and support. I know you don't like being spanked (and who does?), but you need to know that you are still too young to do everything you want, so it is necessary for someone more experienced and mature than you to take the initiative. After all, you said it yourself: you need a guide to help you deal with the problems of your complex life. Let your beloved mother guide you and follow her advice and soon you will find yourself happy and with a peaceful life spread out before you. Remember I too am here to help you. If you'll feel the desire to tell me anything or ask for a suggestion post here and I'll be with you as soon as I'll may do it. I love you, little one. Hugs and kisses [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Miracle to you grandabob. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 03:50:02 05/04/25 Sun Ummmm hi and I was not allowed to read messages from you to my mommy 😔 and plus not able to read messages from my mommy to you either ok. I really really want to go out with my friends and get a bus like before ok 😭 and I am not allowed to form now on. I could not believe I was spanked in the bedroom in the store and lots of spanks at home for misbehaving my mommy said to me. But she gave me lots of hugs and kisses before and afterwards and said she loves me so much. I am sorry for being rude and disrespectful and miss also for stealing and everything else ok. My mommy said everything you said about her making the decisions because I am just a little girl and need guidance and stuff like that. I am confused about things sometimes ok and how my mommy hates me so much. Or why my daddy never loved me and other things happened to me ok sorry 😔. Thank you for the hugs and kisses and hugs and kisses back to you. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: grandpaBob[ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 05:15:14 05/04/25 Sun Hi, my wonderful little one. It's not true your real mom doesn't love you. It's just that she has a lot of trouble by herself and she's not able to find at the moment a way out. Maybe one day she'll be able to solve her problems and she'll come back to the normal life. It's normal you may feel confused now. It's a though moment in your short life and you don't have the "tools" to deal with it. That's why it will be so important to have a strict and lovely guidance especially in the near future. What you need to take care of most of all is your life and that precious gift nature gave you: your childhood! Be the child you are and try to enjoy your life. Too soon your childhood will go and never come back. I know you want to be free to come and go as you please, but that is not life; without loving guidance you will go like a ship without a rudder, and that is something no one wants, you first of all. Your current mom just loves you so she wants for you only the best. Trust her with all of yourself and obey her with serenity and you will see that soon your whole life will change, for the better, and you will certainly not feel regret for something that you have already understood is wrong. With love. Hugs and kisses Last edited by author: Sun May 04, 2025 05:16:26
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Author: Miracle to you grandabob. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 06:06:19 05/04/25 Sun Thank you for writing back to me so fast ⏩ and my mommy said hello to you and said she is going to start another thread this is called. Thank you for saying that I am wonderful and you said that my other mom does love me and my mommy here says that to me. I cannot remember my mommy not drinking or sometimes not coming home and I was on my own. My mommy is always saying that I need to be a child like you are telling me to do. She said about being strict and caring and loving and will not be easy to get used to the rules and called structure and boundaries and other things I need in my life. That was kind of amazing what you said about the ship and getting blown all over the place like my mommy said in the wind without anything to keep me rooted and you are very smart 🤓 and clever. I definitely miss not being able to do whatever I want to do and I know that my mommy here loves me and we are going out for a while with stuff I stole ok and she threw out lots of my clothes ok 😭😔. Thank you for all the hugs and kisses and kisses and hugs back to you. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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