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Subject: Re: Yay for your plan!


Author:
Zoe to Debra
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Date Posted: 14:15:05 02/16/26 Mon
In reply to: Karl 's message, "Yay for your plan!" on 07:41:14 02/16/26 Mon

Karl gives good advice--he gave me good advice too, some time ago. I would also add when you DO confront them, make sure you have a place to be and someone expecting you not too long afterword. Sometimes people react badly to being confronted.

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Author:
Karl
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Date Posted: 16:27:06 02/16/26 Mon

I haven't been on here for a while and maybe you haven't either, Zoe. I remember your story. But I remember as far as you moved out and eventually took in your step-sisters and had a visit or two from your dad. How have things been going with you and Vi and the kids over the past year or two?

I'm glad to hear you thought my advice to you was good. I can't really remember what I wrote back then, but you certainly had a difficult situation with your mom and step-dad and that Baptist school with the principal who was jonesing for another chance to paddle you, and dealt with it admirably. Kudos to you!
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Zoe to Karl
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Date Posted: 19:04:56 02/16/26 Mon

Karl,

Things have been mostly good. We had a rocky few months but after the girls and I have established a good rhythm where I can be the cool older sister as long as everyone behaves, which is almost all the time. Jo has also turned out to be a very talented and motivated student in a system that rewards that (and where it is socially cool to get As). Vi moved in with me for a while, and it was nice having a second parent but she's moved back east chasing better soccer. We have had some arguments about that but I think we'll be okish.

My stepdad and I have repaired our relationship to a degree I wouldn't have thought possible. Really when he's freed of the toxic environment/expectations of Baptistville, he's a good person. Apparently when they were hanging out together on his last visit he told Amy "he was going to tell on her to Zoe" if she didn't shape up," in a somewhat joking way. Unfortunately he has received a bad medical diagnosis, so I'm not sure how much long he will have--a couple of years at least, I think/hope, but you never know . My mom and I are not talking but that's perhaps for the best. I've left the ball in her court, and that is less mental load for me.

Because I was able to get almost 60 credits in high school and did an internship last summer, I'm able to graduate in May. I'm writing a capstone about experiences with modes of violence that is turning out to being a lot about spanking since people are willing to be interviewed about that. I'll share more when I've actually finished it. I have another internship lined up for the summer, and then I'll need to figure out what's next. Probably more study of some kind eventually, but there are too many things that appeal but nothing specific. Provided things are working with me and Vi will probably try to line up what I'm doing with her law school applications after some work next year since she has another year.

I do have to say the if my ex-principal runs into me in a dark ally he had better walk the other way, quickly
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Author:
Karl (to Zoe)
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Date Posted: 07:24:44 02/17/26 Tue

Glad to hear things have been working out well for you and your step-sisters and that even your step-dad seems to have come around to a saner outlook. I don't know what to say about your mother. From what you wrote before it seemed she was unwilling to acknowledge her own failings and blamed you as a scapegoat for everything.

Interesting that so many people are willing to be interviewed about spanking. But if you're looking for another, non-spanking, source for your treatise on violence, you could look into Bill Buford's 1993 book "Among the Thugs" which is about what he learned and experienced while hanging out with England's football hooligans. Of course "football" in England is what we call "soccer" in America. I haven't read it myself, but I had long thought it would be worth reading. Here's a blurb about the book:

"They have names like Barmy Bernie, Daft Donald, and Steamin' Sammy. They like lager (in huge quantities), the Queen, football clubs (especially Manchester United), and themselves. Their dislike encompasses the rest of the known universe, and England's soccer thugs express it in ways that range from mere vandalism to riots that terrorize entire cities. Now Bill Buford, editor of the prestigious journal Granta, enters this alternate society and records both its savageries and its sinister allure with the social imagination of a George Orwell and the raw personal engagement of a Hunter Thompson."
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Author:
Eleonora
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Date Posted: 01:11:36 02/17/26 Tue

Hi!

I, too, think you’ve come up with a good plan! If I may add a few thoughts, it would be that you shouldn’t rush it! I’m saying this, because when I have a good Idea, I’m eager to try it out, sometimes too eager.

Keep it on the facts about what has happened, and your stepsister’s reactions, but keep her personality out of it, as much as possible. I don’t think your assessment of it is wrong, but in a discussion that easily gets heated, hard facts are your best friends!

My best wishes

Leona
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Author:
Debra to Leona and others
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Date Posted: 18:40:46 02/17/26 Tue

Thanks so much, Leona, and others, for your encouragement. All of you who have posted have been helpful and encouraging. I'm feeling better about the plan to confront them every day.

And yes I will keep a copy of the list in my school locker and also I will confront them when I already have someplace I have to be shortly after our talk and with people waiting for me--not that I think they might really try to get physical and really intimidate me, but just being safe rather than sorry. I am already thinking I may do it at the end of this week instead of waiting another week because I have written down the incidents over the last three weeks and the incidents are very numerous and show the patterns very clearly.

And I put today down on the list already. When I got home from school my lovely Aunt had my waste basket from my room, full to overflowing, waiting to show my mother in the living room. "Look at this", she snarled. "A banana peel was left in there for days and days. It's totally spoiled and black! I have it in a plastic bag in the kitchen to show my sister."

It was black, but I ate that banana Sunday evening, two days ago, and I would have emptied the full wastebasket today. This meant nothing to the martinet. "Take your dress and panties off, young lady", she said. "You have an appointment over my lap right now."

I then had to undress in the living room and go over her lap and she then spanked me with her hand and then with the hairbrush until I was bawling my head off and I then did a wild dance in front of her naked as usual. And when I finally quieted down she said, "When I show that disgusting banana peel to mom that was left in your waste basket for days and days, she may very well spank you again tonight at your bedtime and I will suggest to her that do exactly that."

So that is on the list with a ton of other very small matters like that. It's not like the banana peel was covered in bugs or something, or like it was left on the floor or on a windowsill or something--it was in the wastebasket which had filled up by last night and would have been emptied today. And the spanking, like all of hers, was very hard and long and I still have a very red bottom almost four hours later.

The good thing--it's on the list with lots of others just like it and with lots of even less important events for which she or mom have spanked me, or sometimes both spanked me! Debra
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Author:
Sookma
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Date Posted: 11:58:25 02/18/26 Wed

You spanked by both an aunt and a step sister?
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Author:
Debra to Sookma
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Date Posted: 12:53:45 02/18/26 Wed

Spanked by my mother and an older Step-Sister. Debra


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