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] Date Posted:20:27:20 03/28/26 Sat Author Host/IP: 188.172.75.174 In reply to:
Nathalie
's message, "The Double Standard" on 03:36:54 10/14/25 Tue
>Stumbling upon this forum has been such an eye opener.
>I am a mom of a now 19 years old boy. When he was
>around 9 or 10, I used to take him to a local sports
>club for soccer practice. After the end of a session,
>the boys would take a shower. During this time some of
>the moms would go into the boys shower room to help
>them out a little, or some of us would just go there
>to chat with other moms. The boys would all range from
>8 to 10, as the session was divided into age groups. I
>guess it wasn't a big deal that we moms saw the boys
>naked, as nobody cared. But it was also pretty common
>for girls, like sisters, or players from the girls
>team, to be in the boys shower room. Some of these
>girls would be older, younger or the same age as the
>boys, and would see the boys totally naked. There were
>times when I even saw girls from my son's grade. But
>it never happened the other way around as dads or boys
>never went into the girls shower. At the time it was
>so normal and nobody cared about it, but looking back,
>it was definitely a double standard. Nobody just
>thought about giving boys privacy until much older
>compared to girls. Other scenarios also come to mind.
>When I used to go to the beach with my friends or
>sisters, we usually would have a mixed group of boys
>and girls children. When it was time to leave, we
>would make the boys upto aged 10 or below drop their
>trunks to wash of the sand and get changed. This was
>done openly. The boys would just stand butt naked for
>some time in full view of their girl cousins and
>friends, and it was totally casual. But I can't
>remember ever that a girl would get undressed this
>openly past the toddler age. They would only change
>privately in the stalls if those were available like
>us adults. Back then I never thought twice about it,
>maybe because I only have a son. I guess would thought
>about it more if he had a sister. It's not like we had
>any strict rules or something, it's just how things
>were. The boys became more private only around 11 or
>12, and that is when we respected their privacy. But
>until then, I guess we moms just didn't thought about
>their modesty. Boys would also get bathed by moms alot
>older compared to girls. My son could wash himself by
>8, by I still bathed him irregularly until about 10 or
>11, until he asked for privacy. Oh and of course there
>was peeing openly 🤣
>
>So from my experience of raising kids, the double
>standard for girls and boys nudity was definitely a
>thing. It was just so casual and only reading this
>forum made me look back and think. What do you people
>think??
All that you say here is definitely true because I experienced it myself growing up.
After sports events until age 12 or so moms and sisters would be present in the locker room with us boys showering naked. If males were present in the girls changing room this would cause a scandal.
At home it didn't matter if female visitors saw us boys naked, but not male visitors seeing girls.
Same on the beach like you described.
Also boys until 11 years being bathed by older sisters or babysitters or moms friends. But girls that age being bathed by older brothers or other males from outside the family was unheard of.
Girls modesty from a young age was always protected, while it didn't matter for boys. Males were always considered as predators and could not be trusted with young girls, while females were considered as carers and could be trusted with boys.
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Date Posted:11:54:28 03/29/26 Sun Author Host/IP: 148.252.165.92
Totally agree, women are very blase about the privacy of boys. When I was 12 I had to get changed in an open communal room with boys aged five plus and I remember one woman was in there helping her son to get dressed after a swim session but the reality was her eyes were all over and looking at the other boys, most of them totally bare.
Date Posted:07:14:39 03/30/26 Mon Author Host/IP: 103.180.29.114
It's not just women; most men also don't concern their own privacy. When I was a child, the swimming pool near my house had a rule that children over 5 years old couldn't enter the opposite sex's changing room. This rule was well enforced in the women's changing room; slightly older boys entering the women's changing room would face resistance from the girls. However, this rule was practically ignored in the men's changing room. Girls as young as 7, 8, or even 9 or 10 often accompanied their fathers into the men's changing room. Most boys didn't seem to mind these little girls freely entering the men's changing room to see boys naked.
Date Posted:03:39:10 03/31/26 Tue Author Host/IP: 76.195.201.31
I would see same thing, all the time. Infact I likely never even went into girls room.
It was long ago, but our summer town pool had kids, and adult pool, and boys and mens room separate. In boys room, girls would always change their little brothers. Younger boys would use the kids pool naked on quiet weekdays too. It was mostly up to mom I guess what the cut off age was, but seemed relaxed. I was with few younger boys and joined them to watch them swim sometimes.
Date Posted:20:00:07 03/31/26 Tue Author Host/IP: 73.151.49.126
>It's not just women; most men also don't concern their
>own privacy. When I was a child, the swimming pool
>near my house had a rule that children over 5 years
>old couldn't enter the opposite sex's changing room.
>This rule was well enforced in the women's changing
>room; slightly older boys entering the women's
>changing room would face resistance from the girls.
>However, this rule was practically ignored in the
>men's changing room. Girls as young as 7, 8, or even 9
>or 10 often accompanied their fathers into the men's
>changing room. Most boys didn't seem to mind these
>little girls freely entering the men's changing room
>to see boys naked.
I don't remember a specific rule at our local pool, but one time my wife and I took our young girls , age 2 and 6, or so, to the local public pool. When it was time to leave, I went to the men's room to change and my wife took the girls to the women's. That particular day, a dad was there with his 2 daughters, maybe early grade school age, and the 3 of them were changing in the men's room with other guys changing around them. Dad and girls didn't care and none of the guys seemed bothered, either.
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