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Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Lucia [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 13:20:38 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 185.107.56.221 In reply to: Matteo 's message, "Re: Hiking naked with mom." on 13:44:14 08/17/25 Sun >When I went to the French Riviera with my grandparents >in July, I pooped in my diaper in the car. My >grandmother cleaned me up in the back seat and then, >since it was time for sandwiches, she made me sit at >the picnic tables in just my T-shirt and shoes. >Obviously, the rest area wasn't empty. Were there any boys or girls your age or younger, or were there just adults? Your grandmother didn't do anything wrong: it may seem embarrassing, but as Eliza wrote, prepubescent boys shouldn't feel ashamed. Did anyone there stare at you? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:09:04 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Yes, Lucia, there were also boys and girls my age. In particular, while Grandma was wiping my bottom, a car parked next to ours, on the side where the door was open.There was a family on board with a 12-year-old girl. When Grandma finished and went to throw away her dirty diaper, I saw the girl gape at me. Instinctively, still lying down, I pulled my knees to my chest to hide my dick and didn't move. Grandma: "Come on, Matteo, get up. Aren't you hungry?" I sat down: "Grandma, I can't get down like this." Grandma briskly made me get up and even stood, telling me to lift my shirt to apply cream. The girl was a meter away from me. Her mother noticed her staring and called her back. However, during lunch we shared the same table, because it was the only one free. And the girl had the chance to watch my grandmother put on my clean diaper before leaving. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:14:13 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 185.107.56.221 >Yes, Lucia, there were also boys and girls my age. In >particular, while Grandma was wiping my bottom, a car >parked next to ours, on the side where the door was >open.There was a family on board with a 12-year-old >girl. When Grandma finished and went to throw away her >dirty diaper, I saw the girl gape at me. >Instinctively, still lying down, I pulled my knees to >my chest to hide my dick and didn't move. Grandma: >"Come on, Matteo, get up. Aren't you hungry?" I sat >down: "Grandma, I can't get down like this." Grandma >briskly made me get up and even stood, telling me to >lift my shirt to apply cream. The girl was a meter >away from me. Her mother noticed her staring and >called her back. However, during lunch we shared the >same table, because it was the only one free. And the >girl had the chance to watch my grandmother put on my >clean diaper before leaving. Hi Matteo. WOW! How did you feel? Very embarrassed (especially considering her age) or did you manage not to be too embarrassed? You definitely made her vacation unforgettable! WOW, even at lunch at the same table... how did it go? Was she looking at you? Did her mom scold her for this? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:29:31 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 I spoke in monosyllabic phrases throughout lunch. Every time I looked up, the little girl looked at me. I got some revenge when she accidentally spilled juice on her shirt. She remained topless until her mother got her a spare shirt. Has Tommaso ever been seen by a child during a diaper change? How did he react? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:45:56 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 185.107.56.221 >I spoke in monosyllabic phrases throughout lunch. >Every time I looked up, the little girl looked at me. >I got some revenge when she accidentally spilled juice >on her shirt. She remained topless until her mother >got her a spare shirt. Has Tommaso ever been seen by a >child during a diaper change? How did he react? I can imagine, so you felt embarrassed... okay, fine, that's understandable... Did you introduce yourself during lunch? Did you tell her your real age, and she thinks she saw a younger boy? At 12, did she have a little breast when she went topless? Was she embarrassed? Sometimes Tommaso was seen by other children during diaper changes. Not very often, to be honest, but it happened. Both by boys and girls on different occasions. The first few times, he was very embarrassed, trying to close his legs so his penis wouldn't be seen. Then he got used to it a bit. I'm not saying he was comfortable, not at all, but he wasn't dying of embarrassment anymore. Embarrassed, yes, but less than the first few times. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:58:28 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Well done, Tommaso! Even at 8 years old, it's not easy to accept being seen during a diaper change. How did you respond to curious children who asked why you were still wearing diapers? The girl didn't have breasts, but she was still embarrassed. When they asked me how old I was, I said 14, not 14 and a half. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:06:32 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 185.107.56.221 >Well done, Tommaso! Even at 8 years old, it's not easy >to accept being seen during a diaper change. How did >you respond to curious children who asked why you were >still wearing diapers? > >The girl didn't have breasts, but she was still >embarrassed. When they asked me how old I was, I said >14, not 14 and a half. Matteo, I'm so proud of you! Really! If I were there, I'd hug you! Well done! You could have said you were 10 or 12, since you look younger than your actual age (and I'm not just referring to your penis and testicles, but also your height and the rest of your physique, if I understand correctly). It was brave of you to tell the truth. Did she say anything or make any particular facial expressions when she found out your age? I honestly don't understand the difference between letting others see your penis on the beach and while changing your diaper... it's still the same... But I can imagine that diapers make you look younger, almost like a kid, and therefore embarrassing. I explained Tommaso's medical problem to them, saying that it wasn't nice to tease or stare at a child just because of his physical problems. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:18:02 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Thanks, but it would have been pointless to lie to my grandparents. When she heard my age, the girl said, "I thought we were the same age." And yes, diapers exacerbate my embarrassment. Even though everyone tells me otherwise, I think I'm the only high school student in diapers. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:24:44 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 185.107.56.221 >Thanks, but it would have been pointless to lie to my >grandparents. When she heard my age, the girl said, "I >thought we were the same age." >And yes, diapers exacerbate my embarrassment. Even >though everyone tells me otherwise, I think I'm the >only high school student in diapers. You never know if you're truly the only one your age wearing it. Maybe there are others, but they're too embarrassed to admit it. You're brave. Tommaso understands you well and I think I also understand the reasons. Rereading the exchange of posts from last night, I noticed that due to the late hour and the fact that a couple of posts overlapped, you didn't reply to this message of mine: this was your post: >Of course I told her I was embarrassed with Martina, >but she downplayed it: "What's your problem? Where >does all this modesty come from? >How's your relationship with your female cousin? Do >your children even go naked in front of her? How did >that bath in her presence go? This is my answer: Your parents are partly right. You prepubescent children shouldn't have any modesty. Besides, she'd already seen you the first time, so there was nothing new to her. But since you were so humiliated and embarrassed, they could have left you naked on the beach even in her presence, but asked Martina to wait outside the bathroom door (which, I repeat, is a very private moment for me). That's what I would have done. I would have tried to make you understand that Martina could be there, that it was good for you and your psychological growth that she was there, but if you were truly humiliated, almost to the point of tears, I would have told her to wait outside. Did she ever tell you how she felt seeing you bathe? And did you tell Martina that you were embarrassed and that if she were truly your friend, she should have waited outside? They don't see each other very often because they live far away from us, in another province. But when they are together, they play and have fun. She had seen them naked, but they were younger. Then we often went to her house, so my kids were dressed (she lives in an apartment in the city, not the countryside). They came to our house for Christmas and Easter, but there my kids were dressed up. Last year they arrived at our house (one of the few times) but they were earlier than expected. I was still bathing the kids to prepare them for their arrival, and for a change, we were running late, so I was bathing them together. My brother-in-law and his wife came to say hello (my husband told them I was bathing the kids, but that they could come and say hello, that it wasn't a problem). They stopped at the door to say hello, but behind them was their daughter, Carlotta, who saw everything. Francesco immediately covered his penis with his hands, while Tommaso was more comfortable, partly because I was bathing him and he didn't have much room to move. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:42:39 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 It's true, I didn't answer, but reading it made me ask a lot of questions about Carlotta. How did she react to seeing her cousins naked? Did she know that her cousins are often naked at home and on the beach? Did she ever go to the beach with you? Martina has told me many times that she loves looking at my little ass and my small penis. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:08:05 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 185.107.56.221 >It's true, I didn't answer, but reading it made me ask >a lot of questions about Carlotta. How did she react >to seeing her cousins naked? Did she know that her >cousins are often naked at home and on the beach? Did >she ever go to the beach with you? >Martina has told me many times that she loves looking >at my little ass and my small penis. "Martina has told me many times that she loves looking at my little ass and my small penis." I can understand her! I too, at her age, loved to see the little asses and small penises of my friends and classmates. Did you tell Martina that you were embarrassed and that if she were truly your friend, she should have waited outside? Carlotta knew her cousins were often naked at home and on the beach, and she'd even seen them naked as little children. Then, living in another province, COVID meant we couldn't see each other for a while, and once the pandemic was over, there were no opportunities for her to see her cousins naked until that day. So it was almost a surprise for her, she didn't think she'd see them naked while I was washing them, especially Francesco (who in fact, embarrassed, immediately covered himself with his hand). As I wrote last time, I was washing Tommaso at the time (even though they were both naked in the tub), and I continued doing so while greeting and talking to my sister-in-law and Carlotta. She never took her eyes off Tommaso's penis; she smiled and occasionally looked at her mother to see if it was okay for her to be there. I then explained to her that her cousins are always naked, that she was part of the family, and they weren't fully developed (not entirely true for Francesco), so she could stay if she wanted. That way, she could tell me what had happened since we last saw each other. Tommaso was quite comfortable; he greeted his cousin and talked to her. The only truly embarrassing moment for him was when I was washing his penis and then his ass, and he got an erection (normal, it almost always happens). When it came to Francesco's time, he was much, much more embarrassed, I think the same as you with Martina. He asked me in a low voice, without the others hearing, if I could let Carlotta out, but I replied that he had already seen his brother naked, and that when she came in she had surely seen him too, that she was his cousin, not a stranger, but one of the family and that she shouldn't be ashamed. So I proceeded to make him get up and wash him even though he kept his hands on his penis.Then it was time to wash those parts, too, so I asked him to remove his hands. At first, he didn't want to, too embarrassed, but after some persuasion, I convinced him. Carlotta let out a WOW, which made him very embarrassed. "Francesco, you have hair down there!!!" He put his hands back on, but I made him remove them and finished the bath. Then I sent the three of them off to play in their room while they waited for dinner to be ready. The two of them were naked, Carlotta was dressed. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:17:29 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Were Francesco and Tommaso naked all evening? Has Carlotta gotten used to their nakedness? If you had to host Carlotta alone for several days, without her parents, how would you treat her? Would you apply the same rules in the bathroom or on the beach? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:52:46 08/19/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 149.88.30.115 >Were Francesco and Tommaso naked all evening? Has >Carlotta gotten used to their nakedness? If you had to >host Carlotta alone for several days, without her >parents, how would you treat her? Would you apply the >same rules in the bathroom or on the beach? Yes, Francesco and Tommaso remained naked all evening until they put on their pajamas to go to bed. From what the boys told me, I don't think Carlotta got used to their nakedness. They told me that while they were playing, she kept staring at their penises and butts and commenting on how cute they were naked. She asked if they weren't embarrassed and asked if she could touch their penises. She said it was a shame that since they lived far away, they saw so little of each other because she wanted to come visit them every day to see them like this all the time. If I had to host Carlotta alone for several days, without her parents, I would treat her exactly like my own children. She should be naked at home and on the beach, and my children would be allowed to go into the bathroom while I was bathing her. Absolute fairness. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:57:25 08/19/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Carlotta is understandable: it was a complete novelty for her! Did Francesco and Tommaso tell you if they allowed Carlotta to touch them? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:10:45 08/19/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 149.88.30.115 >Carlotta is understandable: it was a complete novelty >for her! Did Francesco and Tommaso tell you if they >allowed Carlotta to touch them? Of course! Carlotta's behavior is completely understandable (like Martina and Margherita's), and at her age, I would have done the same. Francesco and Tommaso had told me about Carlotta's request, but they hadn't said whether they'd allowed her to do it or not. Maybe they were embarrassed, or maybe they were afraid I'd get angry with her, or with them, or with all three of them... how silly... So I asked them the same question you asked. Tommaso told me they were embarrassed at first and said no. But she's very intelligent, kind, and sweet, and little by little she convinced them. She said I'd said in the bathroom that she was family, that it was okay if she saw them bathing naked, so she could touch them (I hadn't actually said that... lol). Tommaso was the first one to give in and let her touch his penis and balls. Carlotta was excited and kept talking about how beautiful and soft it was, and how she liked it. After a while, Tommaso had a beginning erection that embarrassed him, and he pushed Carlotta's hand away. But she insisted, saying it was normal, that she'd seen it in the bath while I was washing him, and she reached out again. When Martina or Margherita touched each other, did you also get an erection? Did it embarrass you as much as Tommaso? After much persuasion, Francesco finally gave in to his cousin's coaxing and allowed her to touch him, just as she had with Tommaso. I'm not mad at them at all; these are youthful experiences between cousins, and I'm okay with that. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01:47:41 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 While playing with Margherita on the mat, I got an erection, but she didn't notice, because I immediately dropped into the water. Then, with an excuse, I never came back up. Instead, Martina touched me at various times, sometimes right in front of our mothers. I remember one time, after one of those famous baths, I was lying naked on the changing table, and Martina asked, "Can I try putting talcum powder on Matteo?" [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: scamptoo to Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:46:12 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 24.57.206.80 >While playing with Margherita on the mat, I got an >erection, but she didn't notice, because I immediately >dropped into the water. Then, with an excuse, I never >came back up. Instead, Martina touched me at various >times, sometimes right in front of our mothers. I >remember one time, after one of those famous baths, I >was lying naked on the changing table, and Martina >asked, "Can I try putting talcum powder on Matteo?" Did your mother allow Martina to put talcum powder on you? I'm sure that you know why she wanted to put talcum powder on you. In my opinion, since she had seen you naked, it would surprise me if she hadn't asked to put the talcum powder on you, since she would have been curious what boys felt like down there. I'm sure that you would have lived through it had your mother allowed it to happen. . . [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:05:26 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Yes, my mother allowed her to put talcum powder on me. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:12:34 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.102 >While playing with Margherita on the mat, I got an >erection, but she didn't notice, because I immediately >dropped into the water. Then, with an excuse, I never >came back up. Instead, Martina touched me at various >times, sometimes right in front of our mothers. I >remember one time, after one of those famous baths, I >was lying naked on the changing table, and Martina >asked, "Can I try putting talcum powder on Matteo?" Here I am! I imagine that since we were both in high school (with Margherita), it was very embarrassing, even though it wasn't the first time in front of a girl. But she was your classmate... You were smart to jump in right away... It's normal for Martina to have touched you several times: between the baths at your house and the beach, you've seen each other a lot, so she had many more opportunities than Margherita. Did your mothers say nothing to her when she touched you in front of them? Did your mother let her put talcum powder on you? How did you feel about this request? And if she did, how did you feel while she was applying talcum powder? On this occasion (or on other occasions when Martina touched you), did you ever get an erection in front of her? How did she react, and what did she say? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:19:49 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.102 >>While playing with Margherita on the mat, I got an >>erection, but she didn't notice, because I immediately >>dropped into the water. Then, with an excuse, I never >>came back up. Instead, Martina touched me at various >>times, sometimes right in front of our mothers. I >>remember one time, after one of those famous baths, I >>was lying naked on the changing table, and Martina >>asked, "Can I try putting talcum powder on Matteo?" Francesco confessed to me that when his cousin Carlotta touched his penis and his little balls, after a while he got an erection, just like his brother had before. He was quite embarrassed and asked his cousin to stop. But she replied that it was really cute and fun to see how his male part changed and got hard. And they continued for a while before they all started playing together again. He was very embarrassed; he said he felt very ashamed, even though he felt a mixture of intense embarrassment and pleasure. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:36:38 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 The first time Martina touched me, in a way, she had Mom's permission. It was a normal beach, lunch at the beach bar, our parents wanted to continue chatting while sitting down, while Martina and I wanted to go back to the beach. They gave us permission, and Mom asked Martina to put sunscreen on me. Of course, Martina happily agreed. Mom meant just my back, but... We went back to the umbrella, and she made me lie down on the beach towel, face down. She creamed my entire backside, focusing on my bottom. The beach was crowded, and a lot of people were staring at me. Then she wanted to do it on the front, too, but I stopped her. The time on the changing table, she was supposed to just spray some talcum powder, but she also spread it with her hand, touching my balls and dick. The two moms stopped her, smiling: "Okay, Martina, you're a little young to be touching dicks." [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:51:57 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.102 >The first time Martina touched me, in a way, she had >Mom's permission. It was a normal beach, lunch at the >beach bar, our parents wanted to continue chatting >while sitting down, while Martina and I wanted to go >back to the beach. They gave us permission, and Mom >asked Martina to put sunscreen on me. Of course, >Martina happily agreed. Mom meant just my back, but... >We went back to the umbrella, and she made me lie down >on the beach towel, face down. She creamed my entire >backside, focusing on my bottom. The beach was >crowded, and a lot of people were staring at me. Then >she wanted to do it on the front, too, but I stopped >her. The time on the changing table, she was supposed >to just spray some talcum powder, but she also spread >it with her hand, touching my balls and dick. The two >moms stopped her, smiling: "Okay, Martina, you're a >little young to be touching dicks." I confess that in those situations I would have done the same as Martina... sorry, but it's the truth... In both cases, she had your mother's permission, and I too would have taken advantage of it to take "a few more liberties"... lol... I can imagine that on the beach, in front of so many people staring at you, it was already embarrassing enough for her to rub sunscreen on your butt, penis, and balls; maybe it would have been too much. I understand why you stopped her. On the changing table: I was trying to imagine the scene. The two mothers watching her, who should be learning to spray talcum powder on you, but instead she's applying it with her hands... too funny, but I totally understand your embarrassment... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:01:41 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 I understand Martina too. Today I too wanted to touch the girl I met! I take it out on my mom, who thinks it's not embarrassing for me to be naked on the changing table in front of a classmate. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:14:54 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.102 >I understand Martina too. Today I too wanted to touch >the girl I met! I take it out on my mom, who thinks >it's not embarrassing for me to be naked on the >changing table in front of a classmate. I'm not defending Martina because she should have asked your permission before touching you. I'm just saying that I understand her desire to touch a boy, given the opportunity. And the fact that you also want to touch girls confirms that it's a normal and mutual desire. The important thing is to ask permission before doing so, and both of you must agree. I wasn't angry with Carlotta. She asked, and both my sons gave her permission, so it's okay with me too. As I've told you a thousand times, you kids shouldn't be embarrassed to be naked at home and on the beach. It should be the norm. They should ban swimsuits for prepubescent children by law (and even a little later for boys...). However, changing a diaper is a very intimate moment, different from being naked on the beach. You feel vulnerable and embarrassed because you're treated like babies. So I understand what you're saying, and in fact, if I were your mother, I would have allowed Martina to see you naked on the beach, to apply sunscreen, to watch you bathe like I did with Carlotta, but not to change your diaper. I would have closed the door and done it in private. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:20:47 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Lucia, if I were to hypothetically find myself sleeping at your house and you had to put me in diapers, would you let Francesco and Tommaso stay in the room, since they're boys? My cousins are always watching me. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:30:40 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.102 >Lucia, if I were to hypothetically find myself >sleeping at your house and you had to put me in >diapers, would you let Francesco and Tommaso stay in >the room, since they're boys? My cousins are always >watching me. I'd be super happy if you stayed over to sleep at our house after playing all afternoon with Francesco and Matteo. That would be great! You'd be the one to decide: if you let me, I'd let him come in and watch, but if you were embarrassed and would prefer it to be just you and me, I'd respect your decision and they'd wait outside the door. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:32:24 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.102 >>Lucia, if I were to hypothetically find myself >>sleeping at your house and you had to put me in >>diapers, would you let Francesco and Tommaso stay in >>the room, since they're boys? My cousins are always >>watching me. > >I'd be super happy if you stayed over to sleep at our >house after playing all afternoon with Francesco and >Matteo. That would be great! You'd be the one to >decide: if you let me, I'd let him come in and watch, >but if you were embarrassed and would prefer it to be >just you and me, I'd respect your decision and they'd >wait outside the door. Francesco and Tommaso, of course, sorry! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:39:46 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 5.90.206.128 My impression of Francesco and Tommaso is that of two well-behaved children. I'd still be embarrassed, but perhaps I'd let them watch. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:44:36 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.102 >My impression of Francesco and Tommaso is that of two >well-behaved children. I'd still be embarrassed, but >perhaps I'd let them watch. Thanks for your comment about my children. Sometimes they get angry and disobey, too—they are children, after all—but I'm happy and proud of them. I think there shouldn't be any awkward moments between the three of you. You should all be naked at home, bathing together or in the same room, without shame. But as I wrote before, diaper changing is a very private moment, so only you can decide whether they should stay in the room and watch or wait outside with the door closed. This wouldn't change their opinion of you in any way, and you would remain great friends whatever your choice. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:59:44 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Of course, I wouldn't want Carlotta as a spectator! Eheheheh [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:03:24 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.102 >Of course, I wouldn't want Carlotta as a spectator! >Eheheheh Hehehe... Diaper changes, definitely not! I'd tell her to wait outside. You can rest assured about that... As for watching your bath, could she? And play with the three of you naked? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:12:34 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 I'm not used to choosing these things: usually my parents decide for themselves whether I should be naked or not. Anyway... it would depend on Francesco... if he's much bigger than me in the private parts, I'd be afraid of Carlotta making comparisons. She might say to me: "Matteo, your penis is smaller than Francesco's." [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:25:49 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.102 >I'm not used to choosing these things: usually my >parents decide for themselves whether I should be >naked or not. Anyway... it would depend on >Francesco... if he's much bigger than me in the >private parts, I'd be afraid of Carlotta making >comparisons. She might say to me: "Matteo, your penis >is smaller than Francesco's." If I had to decide (but you're a guest and a friend, so I can't embarrass you), I'd always let you be naked, just like my children. When they're dressed, you're dressed, too; when they're naked, you're dressed, too. Fair. Play together, eat together, bathe together, sleep together. All this if Carlotta isn't there. If she's there, however, I'd do the same, except for your diaper changes, where it'd be just the two of us, and they'd be outside. But your baths and your games would be with her present (and you present with hers). However, if this makes you very uncomfortable, we'll find a solution that works for you too, when she's there. Francesco's penis and balls are both larger than Tommaso's. However, he's only been developing for a couple of months, so they're not as big as those of a boy in the midst of puberty. They're still quite boyish, even if they've grown a bit. You don't have to worry about being embarrassed by a comparison. Carlotta might eventually notice the lack of your pubic hair, but she's intelligent and sweet and sensitive, so I don't think she'll make any awkward comments. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:34:25 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Another embarrassing moment would be for me to wake up in the morning with a full diaper and let your kids smell it. And then have to tell you I used the diaper. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:38:29 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.102 >Another embarrassing moment would be for me to wake up >in the morning with a full diaper and let your kids >smell it. And then have to tell you I used the diaper. You absolutely don't have to be embarrassed about this. Francesco remembers very well when Tommaso was in diapers (until 2 years ago) and he knows what it smells like in the morning. Stop worrying about this! It's absolutely not a problem. They know you're in diapers; the other night you told me I could talk to them about it. So, no problem, my dear. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:43:26 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.102 >>Another embarrassing moment would be for me to wake up >>in the morning with a full diaper and let your kids >>smell it. And then have to tell you I used the diaper. > > >You absolutely don't have to be embarrassed about >this. Francesco remembers very well when Tommaso was >in diapers (until 2 years ago) and he knows what it >smells like in the morning. >Stop worrying about this! It's absolutely not a >problem. They know you're in diapers; the other night >you told me I could talk to them about it. So, no >problem, my dear. So is everything okay? Will you come over to our house one day, even when Carlotta's here, and stay the night? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:54:35 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Yes, I think I'd feel safe with you. Are you sure your husband would be happy with a house full of kids? Hehehe. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:58:13 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.102 >Yes, I think I'd feel safe with you. Are you sure your >husband would be happy with a house full of kids? >Hehehe. I'm very touched by what you wrote. That you feel safe with me. Thank you so much! I'm sending you a kiss and a hug. I think my husband has no problems, otherwise we'll send him to a friend's house that day... hehehehe... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hiking naked with mom. Author: spelvin [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:08:47 08/23/25 Sat Author Host/IP: 72.78.201.247 Hello, Lucia! I noticed your statement that "They should ban swimsuits for prepubescent children by law (and even a little later for boys...)" I'm curious: Do you want all children to go naked specifically at beaches and swimming pools? Or do you want all children to go naked period? If the latter is the case, you might be interested in a thread entitled "Found this place" at the following URL: https://www.voy.com/143459 The parents in those stories not only keep their children nude at home, but make them play nude outside four seasons of the year, make them eat meals in restaurants nude, and make them walk across town nude for music lessons. It seems that sexual abuse hysteria is hitting many other countries besides my own, so I question that such stories are even possible. I am currently writing a novel about a school system which requires all boys to attend school nude. I doubt if anyone will ever take my suggestion seriously, but it is pleasant to have such an event taking place in my imagination. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]