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Subject: missing in action!


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Date Posted: Thursday, November 26, 05:38:54pm
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In reply to: Miles 's message, "What's New?" on Thursday, November 26, 10:26:11am

I would bet my last dime that on her return when ask about her experience......her answer would be I had a wonderfull experience met so many interesting people and I hope she thank the government for her vacation.She should be well rested, I am not even sure if she made it out of the hotel. last week I read on Globalbeauties blog where she mention she will post pics if she can find a camera what an embarrassment

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[> [> Subject: I take with me a lifetime of memories, experiences and friends..but no crown.


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Date Posted: Friday, November 27, 05:11:43am
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Well Madame Butterfly has been leaving loads of comments on other delegates' photos on Global Beauties. Maybe they sent her as an observer this year so she could give first hand insight to the new franchise holder as this is his debut year aka he lacking in the experience department...you never know. Maybe they misinterpreted 'beautiful woman' for 'nice person' I mean if it were me and it were my first time as a franchise holder, first of, I'd research the industry, market, competition with a hawk's eye. Afterall, I'd want to make a GREAT first impression and not get written off from day UNO. I'd like to say I'd be looking for an outstanding beauty as that will be my first criterion. But amongst a room full of beauties, one can easily get lost. I would also remind myself that sometimes though, the-not-so-beautiful girl does win. But she must have some facial appeal in the first place. If I cannot find a beautiful-enough face, I won't be sending a delegate. Whether I lose the money allocated for not spending it, is not my concern. I am here for a Certificate of Excellence, aka to win, and not for a Certificate of Participation, aka a clapper.

For Miss World, once we've sorted out the beauty criterion, we can move down the list....Do we have enough time to awaken a social conscience in her, aka Beauty with a Purpose? And for me, the candidate must take ownership of the project and thus buy-in to the Miss World's philosophy of same. In that sense, it must be a genuine interest on the part of the delegate. I think Gabrielle accomplished this.

Miss World makes it a little easier in a sense as it offers a few other fast track events, but these are not guarantees...Swimmer girl from a few years ago looked like she was constantly drinking snail soup, coz she was Miss Lethargy. She did not look like she wanted to be there. Where did she reach...according to the P&L Statement, more was spent than earned. Bottom Line=Loss. Another liability=all inclusive, all expense paid holiday for her.

Now I look at Keneisha and that woman shone in every single category. How she did not make the finals continues to be one of those things that will befuddle me for the rest of my life. Again, it is my theory that the choice of gown is usually our downfall, the area in which we can crush the competition. It's almost as if we give up the chance by choosing a gown that will single out our girl in a good way. I admit,Caribbean designers are very very talented but they do not have a mainstrean international appeal yet. I loved Keneisha's table cloth/ doily material/ the plastic thingie they put underneath a cake gown. But it did not stand out in a good way on the final stage at Miss World. It was not spectacular. It was wrong! I also felt that her killer asset would always been her flawless ebony complexion,something that should have been captialized on to the max! The lemony dress for Miss Universe looked bland on her that night-for me the colour killed the style and that killed it for the girl. I have absolutely no remorse in stating categorically that I am sending a girl to win the crown for T&T and not to showcase Caribbean Fashion Week. Reminds me of Faye's gown for Miss Universe. Hated the gown but she wore it and worked it elegantly.

To be continued...back to work lol

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[> [> [> Subject: Kenisha's year was not the dress it was that damn global voting thing. That year peru came from no where and won & Miss Phillipines was in the 5 as well and that baffaled the world. So check your facts it was not the dress it was the voting are we forgetting the following year ice land won in a granny of the bride badly made number. Don;t blame it on the dress there are always other factors as well.


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Date Posted: Saturday, November 28, 04:32:23am
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[> [> [> [> Subject: Further analysis


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Date Posted: Monday, November 30, 07:18:48am
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Lalla, I agree with you to a certain extent. I think there are at least two potential theories regarding how Keneisha ended up in the semis in the first place in Miss World 2004:

So the lines were open to the world to vote for the girl that they wanted to see in the semifinals, that is disregarding the four or five girls who advanced automatically through the fast track events. For Keneisha to advance to the semifinals, she had to have garnered at least the 6th highest number of votes among the remaining 10. The reason I say this is because the delegates with the 5 highest tally of votes advanced to the finals. This means that considering the semifinals, the public voted her in, meaning the voting system worked in her favour!

Theory 2: the rope that acted as her life line in the semis was responsible for her exclusion from the finals. So she got into the semifinals because the worldwide public loved her but other factors came into play. Philippines got into the semifinals because they are notorious for being pageant fanatics. If they messed up the whole Miss Photogenic thing at Miss Universe, how come they didn't secure a final spot for their girl?

The voting thing doesn't hold water for me, for a number of reasons. First and foremost, to think that Julia would leave this whole thing up to the public is ludicrous. Julia picks the winner! These pageants are contrived to the max! Keneisha got into the semis based on international votes, who per se voted for her? Trinis in Trinidad and abroad? Fellow Caribbean countries? Other non white nations? I also don't buy the crap that the votes were determined using a population ratio. Come on, don't you think that after excelling in every single fast track event, her omission from the semis would make a mockery of Miss World? Keneisha was the most consistent performer that year, end of! There is nothing anybody could say that will make me believe Keneisha got in because of votes. Puerto Rico is also notorious for hypervoting, they did not make the semifinals. What about Mexico, their mouths have been watering for the crown forever? While they advanced automatically with Miss Model, not enough votes? What about pageantcental Venezuela? What about India with the second largest population? C'mon, this voting thing had a purpose. At that time, circa 2003 and thereafter, text voting and the like were extremely popular in the UK. It was a way of making the public feel empowered- that the decision was in their hands, when in essence, it was a ploy to extort as much money as possible from the voters...and then the results don't reflect the voting pattern. I don't buy it. I can definitely see Philippines getting in because of votes, I can even see USA and Dominican Republic, China by virtue of their population. Nigeria got in because of votes...no no, let's be realistic. Who would have won Continental Queen of Africa if there was no African semifinalists. Do you also really believe for one second that Peru is a huge pageantaholic population or that the world saw her as the type of beauty queen that would make a great Miss World?

In the final analysis, Julia wanted Keneisha in the semis, and rightfully so, but that is where it ended. After considering all these things, I do stand corrected that maybe great dress or not, it may not have made much difference in Keneisha's placement at Miss World 2004. I beg to differ on Miss Universe.

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