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Date Posted: 14:00:33 03/04/11 Fri
Author: Lois
Subject: Re: After sleeping on it
In reply to: George 's message, "Re: After sleeping on it" on 23:22:03 03/02/11 Wed

>>>>>After sleeping on it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think it's time for me find a new Internet home
>to
>>>>>discuss theological beliefs. Life is short, I want
>>to
>>>>>focus on things that are meaningful to me in my
>>>>>journey with Him.
>>>>>
>>>>>Peace be with you, may you find the love of Christ!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Yours in Christ,
>>>>>
>>>>>Wally
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>>>href="http://www.voy.com/2963/16829.html">http://www
>.
>>v
>>>o
>>>>y.com/2963/16829.html
>>>>Wally,
>>>>
>>>>What do you think Jesus would say about questions of
>>>>ordaining practicing homosexuals? What do you do
>>Jesus
>>>>would say about Encounter World Religions?
>>>>
>>>>Lois
>>>>
>>>> >>>>href="http://www.voy.com/2963/16833.html">http://www
>.
>>v
>>>o
>>>>y.com/2963/16833.html
>>>>Lois,
>>>>
>>>>I think He would take a humble homosexual over
>>someone
>>>>without His charity. It's basphemy that Peter was
>>>>addressed over the law in the 2nd chapter of
>>>>Galatians. Jesus certainly shut the mouths of the
>>>>people bent on stoning the women caught in
>adultry!He
>>>>certainly had a lot to say about Pharisees.
>>>>
>>>>Just saying
>>>>
>>>>Yours in Christ,
>>>>
>>>>Wally
>>>>
>>>> >>>>href="http://www.voy.com/2963/16838.html">http://www
>.
>>v
>>>o
>>>>y.com/2963/16838.html
>>>>Wally,
>>>>
>>>>Are you comparing circumcision to sodomy?
>>>>
>>>>I asked about "practicing homosexual" and you have
>>>>tried to cloud the issue. I don't forget that you
>all
>>>>believe that they "were born that way". I on the
>>other
>>>>hand don't call someone a homosexual if they don't
>>>>actually do that behavior. And a once practicing
>>>>homosexual can repent, as Jesus told the woman
>caught
>>>>in adultery to do.
>>>>
>>>>But we all know that you are not talking about
>>>>celibate homosexuals, since you want to marry them
>to
>>>>each other in the church also. So don't try to pull
>>>>that one.
>>>>
>>>>So, I guess from your answer you do believe that God
>>>>is calling practicing homosexuals to the priesthood.
>>>>You who once portrayed yourself as a conservative
>>have
>>>>truly showed your face. You are with the program.
>>>>
>>>>Lois
>>>
>>>Lois, even the homosexuals themselves do not, deep
>>>down inside, believe that they were "born that way."
>A
>>>prime example of this is the fact that Anne Rice's
>>>book "Interview with a Vampire" was embraced
>>>enthusiastically by the homosexual subculture, which
>>>saw vampirism as a metaphor for homosexuality. In
>>>fact, none of the male vampires ever selected female
>>>companions, nor did the female vampires select male
>>>ones. That looks homosexual on the surface, but lo
>and
>>>behold, the vampires in the story actively recruited
>>>normal people to become vampires so that they would
>>>have "life companions." So, to my way of thinking,
>if
>>>the homosexual subculture thinks that Anne Rice was
>>>writing about homosexuality, they are welcome to
>think
>>>that, provided they acknowledge that Rice portrayed
>>>vampires as being the exact opposite of "born that
>>>way."
>>>
>>>Like Robbie the robot in "Forbidden Planet" refusing
>>>to fire on the rampaging invisible creature because
>he
>>>actually knows, down in his circuits, that it is
>>>really his own master, whom he has been programmed
>not
>>>to harm, the homosexuals immediately see in a fantasy
>>>culture of outcasts who enlarge their numbers by
>>>recruitment a stunning reflection of their own
>>>lifestyles. Don't blame me for this interpretation.
>>>Blame them. I don't control what homosexuals think.
>>>
>>>George
>>
>>George,
>>
>>Very interesting.
>>
>>Lois
>
>Anne Rice has become a crusader of sorts for the
>homophiliacs. (A homophiliac is as different from a
>homosexual as an Islamicist is from a Muslim.) If the
>homosexual subculture believed that her supposed
>depiction of them was inaccurate, they would be making
>a hue and cry to have publishers run her out of town
>for defaming them, with contradiction of their claim
>that they are "born that way." There were probably
>homosexuals in the CofC from day one. It was not until
>the radical homophiliac movement began, and the CofC
>unofficially adopted it, that homosexuality became a
>problem in the church. Yet, as always, those who
>object to radical homophilia are portrayed as hating
>all homosexuals. Incidentally, that's what how the
>radical Islamic terrorists are portraying those who go
>after them: as being at war with all Muslims.
>
>Anne Rice made a big whoop-de-doo about "returning to
>the Catholic Church," and wrote some abysmal books
>based upon apocryphal gospels (which Roman Catholicism
>rejects.) The last I heard of her was last year when
>she announced on CNN that she was through with
>Christianity because it didn't regard homosexuality
>correctly. Her tirade reminded me of Sinead O'Connor
>publicly tearing up a picture of the Pope. I thought
>it strange that Rice's much publicized return from
>apostasy was so ballyhooed, but so short.
>
>I'm not opposed to people reading Anne Rice's books,
>though. Their popularity among the "gay community" is
>the best expose of homosexual activism's
>self-contradiction.
>
>George

George,

So, I have been checking it out.

http://www.queerty.com/anne-rice-ditches-christianity-because-have-you-heard-its-so-anti-gay-20100729/

It seems that Ann Rice is a heroine to the homosexual community. I may have to read her book. I don't think they would like her if they didn't like her allegory of them.

Lois

from the Community of Christ
http://www.cofchrist.org/USAConf/01-2011NatlConf.pdf

"The delegate conference, July 18–22, 2012, in Independence, Missouri, will determine the level of support for

1.) Extending the sacrament of marriage to persons of the same sex/gender OR providing a church-recognized way for two persons of the same sex/gender to publicly express their commitment to each other.

2.) Allowing people in committed, monogamous, long-term, same sex/gender relationships (legal marriage, civil union, church-recognized commitment) to be considered for ordination.

The delegates’ common consent will determine if present policies will remain in place or new policies will need to be written and implemented.

These are difficult issues......"

signed by Linda L. Booth, Stassi D. Cramm, Ronald D. Harmon Jr., Rick W. Maupin, and K. Scott Murphy
USA Team of Apostles

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