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Date Posted: 07:39:40 03/14/11 Mon
Author: George
Subject: Re: daily lenten scripture readings - sunday march 13, 2011.
In reply to: john 's message, "daily lenten scripture readings - sunday march 13, 2011." on 16:02:04 03/12/11 Sat

>Genesis 2:15-17, 3:1-7
>
>15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden
>of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16 And the
>LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from
>any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from
>the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when
>you eat of it you will surely die."
>Gen 2:15-17 (NIV)

>
>Chapter 3
>The Man and Woman Sin
>1 The serpent was the shrewdest of all the wild
>animals the Lord God had made. One day he asked the
>woman, �Did God really say you must not eat the fruit
>from any of the trees in the garden?�
>2 �Of course we may eat fruit from the trees in the
>garden,� the woman replied.3 �It�s only the fruit from
>the tree in the middle of the garden that we are not
>allowed to eat. God said, �You must not eat it or even
>touch it; if you do, you will die.��
>4 �You won�t die!� the serpent replied to the woman.5
>�God knows that your eyes will be opened as soon as
>you eat it, and you will be like God, knowing both
>good and evil.�
>6 The woman was convinced. She saw that the tree was
>beautiful and its fruit looked delicious, and she
>wanted the wisdom it would give her. So she took some
>of the fruit and ate it. Then she gave some to her
>husband, who was with her, and he ate it, too.7 At
>that moment their eyes were opened, and they suddenly
>felt shame at their nakedness. So they sewed fig
>leaves together to cover themselves.
>Gen 3:1-7 (NLT)

Interesting omission of the fact that the man and woman were man and woman because this very book of the Bible states clearly that God intended the relationship to be between one man and one woman. No polygamous or same sex couples. Also omitted from Chapter three at thist point is the passage immediately preceding this quote, a passage exclusive to the CofC Bible that tells of Satan going before God and demanding to be made the Redeemer, because he will see to it that everybody is saved whether they like it or not. I think that for the CofC, giving out the information that the Devil intended from the beginning to interfere in the marriage between the one man and the one woman would be counterproductive to its stated goals.

>
>Psalm 32
>
>Psalm 32
>The Joy of Forgiveness
>Of David. A Maskil.
> 1 Happy are those whose transgression is
>forgiven,
>whose sin is covered.
>2 Happy are those to whom the LORD imputes no
>iniquity,
> and in whose spirit there is no deceit.
>3 While I kept silence, my body wasted away
> through my groaning all day long.
>4 For day and night your hand was heavy upon me;
> my strength was dried up as by the heat of
>summer. Selah
>5 Then I acknowledged my sin to you,
> and I did not hide my iniquity;
>I said, "I will confess my transgressions to the
>LORD,"
> and you forgave the guilt of my sin. Selah
>6 Therefore let all who are faithful
> offer prayer to you;
>at a time of distress, the rush of mighty waters
> shall not reach them.
>7 You are a hiding place for me;
> you preserve me from trouble;
> you surround me with glad cries of deliverance.
>Selah
>8 I will instruct you and teach you the way you should
>go;
> I will counsel you with my eye upon you.
>9 Do not be like a horse or a mule, without
>understanding,
> whose temper must be curbed with bit and bridle,
> else it will not stay near you.
>10 Many are the torments of the wicked,
> but steadfast love surrounds those who trust in
>the LORD.
>11 Be glad in the LORD and rejoice, O righteous,
> and shout for joy, all you upright in heart.
>Psalms 32:1-11 (NRSV)

Notice that the Psalmist says that he was delivered from sin. Is sin a medieval concept that men need to be freed of by New Age theology, or is it a personal lifestyle that one must be rescued from?

>
>
>Romans 5:12-19
>
>The Death-Dealing Sin, the Life-Giving Gift
>12 You know the story of how Adam landed us in the
>dilemma we're in�first sin, then death, and no one
>exempt from either sin or death. 13 That sin disturbed
>relations with God in everything and everyone, but the
>extent of the disturbance was not clear until God
>spelled it out in detail to Moses. So death, this huge
>abyss separating us from God, dominated the landscape
>from Adam to Moses. 14 Even those who didn't sin
>precisely as Adam did by disobeying a specific command
>of God still had to experience this termination of
>life, this separation from God. But Adam, who got us
>into this, also points ahead to the One who will get
>us out of it.
>15 Yet the rescuing gift is not exactly parallel to
>the death-dealing sin. If one man's sin put crowds of
>people at the dead-end abyss of separation from God,
>just think what God's gift poured through one man,
>Jesus Christ, will do! 16 There's no comparison
>between that death-dealing sin and this generous,
>life-giving gift. The verdict on that one sin was the
>death sentence; the verdict on the many sins that
>followed was this wonderful life sentence. 17 If death
>got the upper hand through one man's wrongdoing, can
>you imagine the breathtaking recovery life makes,
>sovereign life, in those who grasp with both hands
>this wildly extravagant life-gift, this grand
>setting-everything-right, that the one man Jesus
>Christ provides?
>18 Here it is in a nutshell: Just as one person did it
>wrong and got us in all this trouble with sin and
>death, another person did it right and got us out of
>it. But more than just getting us out of trouble, he
>got us into life! 19 One man said no to God and put
>many people in the wrong; one man said yes to God and
>put many in the right.
>Romans 5:12-19 (MSG)

It's a shame that this great and effectual sacrifice of Jesus Christ has been negated by those in the Community of Christ and other postChristian denominations who believe that Jesus' death was unnecessary because sin is just a mental state that an individual needs to be psychoanalyzed out of.

>
>
>Matthew 4:1-11
>
>Chapter 4
>The Temptation of Jesus
> 1 Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the
>desert to be tempted by the devil. 2 After fasting
>forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. 3 The
>tempter came to him and said, "If you are the Son of
>God, tell these stones to become bread."
>
> 4 Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man does not
>live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from
>the mouth of God.' "
>
> 5 Then the devil took him to the holy city and
>had him stand on the highest point of the temple. 6
>"If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself
>down. For it is written:
>
>"'He will command his angels concerning you,
> and they will lift you up in their hands,
>so that you will not strike your foot against a
>stone.' "
>
>
> 7 Jesus answered him, "It is also written: 'Do
>not put the Lord your God to the test.' "
>
> 8 Again, the devil took him to a very high
>mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world
>and their splendor. 9 "All this I will give you," he
>said, "if you will bow down and worship me."
>
> 10 Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For
>it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve
>him only.' "
>
> 11 Then the devil left him, and angels came and
>attended him.
>Matt 4:1-11 (NIV)

Does the Word of God come from the mouth of any CofC prophet?

I do not denigrate the scriptures. I merely wish to point out that the Devil can quote scripture, as the scripture passage immediately above abundantly indicates. When reading the scriptures, one must realize that the Community of Christ does not interpret the scriptures the same way every Christian denomination has for 2,000 years. Whatever uplifting and divine message that one gets from reading the scriptures comes from God. The CofC's quotation of them does not necessarily indicate the the CofC views the scriptures in the same way that you do, or that it even accepts them as any more theoogically accurate than poems by Emily Dickenson.

If you want to know what is going on in the CofC, the scriptures John has posted will not tell you; because the only scriptures that are considered accurate and binding by the CofC are those that its own prophets have written in the last twenty years. That's the old "bait-and-switch" technique.

When someone is to be excommunicated by the CofC, or locked out of their meeting house for refusing to go along with the current "direction" of the church, he will find that the current direction of the church has absolutely nothing to do with any passage from any of the 66 books of the Bible, and everything to do with Doctrine and Covenants, Sections 160-164. When summoned to an excommunication hearing, leave your Bible at home. The CofC only uses it to try to reel in converts. When it decides to "unconvert" you, the Bible will be superfluous.

George

"Behold, thou seest that I have scriptures piled up knee-deep around me, that I have written myself, and they are mine authority."
(What CofC religious tracts would say if they were truthful)

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