VoyForums
[ Show ]
Support VoyForums
[ Shrink ]
VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

[ Login ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, [5], 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 ]

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Date Posted: 16:48:08 09/23/11 Fri
Author: john
Subject: Re: John, Have You Anything to Say about the 40 years of "no NCC" lies
In reply to: Lois 's message, "Re: John, Have You Anything to Say about the 40 years of "no NCC" lies" on 10:03:11 09/21/11 Wed

you have pulled the jsii stuff from one version of his story, Lois... there are numerous other versions that do not have that statement.

john



>>>>i mean, you are going to have to be much plainer...
>>>>you continually comment on how stupid i am!
>>>>
>>>>john
>>>
>>>Tell you what, John, I'll lay it out plainly so that
>>>any lurkers can see for themselves.
>>>
>>>O.C. silenced Price under the false accusation that
>>>Price was a liar. The only alleged lie that
>>>O.C. could manage to identify was the truth -- that
>>>the First Presidency intended to take the church into
>>>the NCC and that the FP was lying when it denied
>this.
>>>So your calling Price's writings and publications
>lies
>>>just shows how very subjective you are in this
>>>particular instance, where the proof is laid out in
>>>plain sight.
>>>
>>>To one who drinks the Koolade, John, your bosses are
>>>always right, and when they are wrong, as is obvious
>>>to anyone who reads the transcript and knows about
>the
>>>CofC joining the NCC, you simply refer back to rule
>>>one -- your bosses are always right.
>>>
>>>God doesn't have anything to do with O.C. Henson's
>>>ministry, nor does it have anything to do with the
>>>ministry of the First Presidency -- at least not
>since
>>>around 1980, because it took a while to craft the lie
>>>O.C. was telling in the mid-80's.
>>>
>>>And, as Matt said, that was a long time ago, but I
>see
>>>absolutely no evidence whatsoever that the leopard
>has
>>>changed his spots.
>>>
>>>George
>>
>>what evidence do you have that oc was lying? perhaps
>>he believed what he was saying... maybe there even
>>really was no intention, back 30 or more years ago, to
>>take the church into the ncc... i don't know that for
>>sure, do you?
>>
>>still to this date no one, not in the church and not
>>outside the church, has been able to tell me why ncc
>>membership is a good thing or a bad thing...
>>
>>i don't like it but i would imagine my reasoning is
>>much different from yours...
>>
>>john
>
>I haven't known the RLDS/C-not-of-c to be truthful
>from at least 1984. Richard Price knew their little
>plan. They would deny, deny, deny, and then one day
>they would up and say, "Oh, we have changed our minds,
>we are going to join." And that is exactly what they
>did. Any intelligent person can see it when they look
>at the evidence.
>-------
>
>RICHARD Of course, they can change that position
>tomorrow, when they get us in a position to go in, and
>say, "Well now we've changed our position."
>
>O.C> It also says that we have "no intention."
>
>RICHARD All right. Uh, maybe they're going to do like
>the National Council. They never did join it, but they
>did get permission to join it. He sent Brother Holmes
>to New, New York to meet with them, the National
>Council, and he got permission, and I have a letter
>from them, the National Council of Churches, saying
>that they accepted us.
>
>DAVID What you're saying is that....
>
>RICHARD Maybe they won't ever sign the papers, but
>they'll go along with them in every way. Uh, how come
>it is, even the latest is, that Ann Smith, the
>prophet's wife, is a member of the board of "Bread for
>the World," which is a World Council of Churches
>organization? Uh, maybe this is evidence that
>they're never going to sign the papers to officially
>join, but they are going to cooperate with them a
>hundred percent. It's like, uh, somebody comes to
>Enoch Hill, and, uh, doesn't join the church, but they
>join the Zion's League, and the wife joins the women's
>organization, and the man joins the, uh, men's club,
>and attend church every Sunday, but they never are
>baptized. And we have the same relationship here, with
>the World Council of Churches. Brother Neff [name
>obscured] got up and said at conference, that he was
>in favor of joining the World Council of Churches. So,
>uh, I don't know what kind of uh, what they have in
>mind, but it sounds like double-talk.
>-----
>
>And now for your answer as to why it is bad to join
>the NCC and WCC. This is from Joseph Smith Jr.'s
>vision in the grove.
>
>I was answered that I must join none of them, for they
>were all wrong, and the Personage who addressed me
>said that all their creeds were an abomination in His
>sight; that those professors were all corrupt, “they
>draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are
>far from me; they teach for doctrine the commandments
>of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the
>power thereof.”
>
>And that is the reason the c-not-of-c leadership,
>which teaches the doctrines of men, etc. etc. hates
>Joseph Smith Jr. and was determined to erase all
>memory of him. All we have to do is see just who comes
>back in the resurrection of the just and who does not.
>Some people still believe in that.
>
>Submitted by Lois

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Replies:

Post a message:
This forum requires an account to post.
[ Create Account ]
[ Login ]
Forum timezone: GMT-5
VF Version: 3.00b, ConfDB:
Before posting please read our privacy policy.
VoyForums(tm) is a Free Service from Voyager Info-Systems.
Copyright © 1998-2019 Voyager Info-Systems. All Rights Reserved.