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Date Posted: 04:49:04 02/15/00 Tue
Author: kande
Subject: But...but...but...
In reply to: detoured 's message, "Ream!Ream Ream! LOL! hairytoes and kande and anyone else who wasn't wild about this ep..." on 13:22:23 02/14/00 Mon

>Sam lived in that house. That appeared to be a bureau >where she probaby had her clothes and so why wouldn't her >diary be in there?

How do we *know* it belonged to Samantha? How do we *know* Samantha lived there? I've only watched the episode once, so maybe I missed something, but the only "proof" Mulder had was that Harold said it was Samantha's. And remember when Mulder, Scully and Harold went to the base and had their seance? We got a glimpse of someone watching them. Who was that, and what was s/he doing?

> Also what was stupid about the nurse's identifying the
> CSM? We know he does indeed go around smoking whenever
> and wherever he likes (remember the hospital scene
> with Gibson?). And a nurse would surely tell him to
> put out his cigarette. So again you'll have to explain
> why you thought this was stupid. This nurse was
> recalling something that happened quite some time ago.
> I can see how the CSM would have made a lasting
> impression on her and she is just relaying that.

A LOT of people smoke, and back in the late 70's we didn't have the smoking laws we have now. As an ex-smoker, I know that any smoker can give a look that would send chills down your spine if asked to put out their cigarette. I don't know hairytoes' reason for not liking this scene, but I know I rolled my eyes a bit. Obviously, the man she was speaking to was evil, and that could only be (drum roll please) CSM.

> The thing is, Mulder accepted this as truth. This is
> his belief. And from past history we know we should
> believe Mulder. He's almost never wrong. :-) There is
> no reason not to believe here.

Mulder has accepted lies as truth in the past where Samantha was concerned. I think where Samantha is concerned there is room for doubt about Mulder's normally excellent deductive abilities. I even agree that Mulder probably believes it. It just didn't convince me.

> Skinner not bring in it. Is it just because he wasn't
> there? If so that's not a fair criticism either IMO.
> He can't be in every ep and there have been many good
> ones without him. if you feel there was a specific
> reason he should have been there then tht's ok.
> Frankly I don't know what more he would have
> contributed. He most likely was working on another
> aspect of this case with the department. We didn't
> need to see Skinner. All he could have done was echo
> Scully's concerns and tell Mulder not to be gullible
> about Harold. But why waste screen time on Skinner's
> opinion that we already know? It would be a
> superfluous scene. Unless you can think of some
> special reason we needed him there?

No special reason for him to be there except that he was so involved last week. Then for him to suddenly not be there, with no explanation, struck me as odd.

Ah, the joys of debating detoured! Nothin' like it.

krh

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I know there were less stringent smoking laws in the 70s -- SMH, 07:59:25 02/15/00 Tue
- It wasn't that long ago that you could still smoke in -- kande, 10:39:23 02/15/00 Tue
Scary guy+smoke=CSM -- detoured, 23:55:49 02/16/00 Wed
- Hmmmm...... -- kande, 03:38:16 02/17/00 Thu
- Re: Scary ? CSM? -- Sybilia, 20:46:11 02/17/00 Thu