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[> [> Re: Brianstorming NIL Solutions -- PFM, Sat, December 27 2025, 7:17:11

Litigation! If a lower conference develops a player they should be compensated.

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[> [> [> Re: Brianstorming NIL Solutions -- Griff, Sat, December 27 2025, 7:58:01

There has already been an enormous amount of litigation and in no universe would the Florida's of the world now agree to the cost of your Walter Clayton scenario when they currently can do the same thing for free - and have the backing of the legal system to do so.

Clayton received 1.2 million in NIL money from Florida. In your formula, Florida would have owed Iona 4.8 million - likely causing them to balk at bringing him in and then you'd be right back to the player argument (that they have already won) that their mobility and earnings are being restricted.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Brianstorming NIL Solutions -- PFM, Sat, December 27 2025, 8:08:10

OK, change the formula to something that doesn't restrict movement but pays Iona for the two years of playing time the kid had to develop his skills...something that might not have happened riding the bench as a 1st year at UF. By the way, the kid grew up 150 miles from UF...they could have had him if they wanted him then.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Brianstorming NIL Solutions -- Griff, Sat, December 27 2025, 8:48:43

Now we may be on to something.

A guy much smarter than me suggested during a conversation he and I were having not too long ago a buyout or transfer fee that would be agreed to in advance between the school and the player on an annual basis. So maybe the best player on the Canisius roster has a 40k transfer fee. When Auburn comes calling, they would pay the transfer fee from the cans and bottles they return from a home football game and the kid gets 25% and Canisius gets 75%. The kid gets initial pocket money and Canisius gets 30k. The kid is allowed to move and Auburn can then pay him whatever they choose to in NIL money. Canisius would have 30k to pay NIL to current players or go out on to the open market and pay the transfer fee on another kid. I'm sure I'm missing some things but the basic premise would seem to work and it wouldn't involve ungodly amounts of money, wouldn't restrict movement in any material way and wouldn't restrict earnings for the player.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Brianstorming NIL Solutions -- PFM, Sat, December 27 2025, 9:45:55

Well, we're not going to solve the problem here but it's clear that 1) kids shouldn't be restricted from transferring; 2) the compensation formula should be predictable (KISS) and 3) (in my opinion) the higher up a kid moves the more compensation that should be paid. If UF had a budget that allowed it to pay 1.4 mil. for WC Jr. they Iona should have received a boat load of money. Otherwise, the MAAC will always be a one team in and a 15/16 seed.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Brianstorming NIL Solutions -- Griff, Sat, December 27 2025, 9:59:58

It's already a given that the MAAC is a one bid 15/16 seed league.

And as I said previously, I don't think Power 4 schools would balk at a capped 40-50k transfer fee because that amount of money is insignificant to them and it might be worth it to have mid-majors serve as their feeder programs. They are not, however, going to agree to pay mid-majors millions of dollars when the justice system has resoundingly said they don't have to.

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[> Re: Brianstorming NIL Solutions -- griff72, Sat, December 27 2025, 6:16:37

Assume you're not being serious here as the power conferences control everything and would simply form their own association if the lesser conferences attempted some move to create some better environment to survive. it is only going to get more challenging especially for smaller private institutions, yes there are some success stories like Gonzaga, Davidson, maybe even Bona and a few others, but without huge dollar investments to pay a big name coach and to pay players sizable dollar amounts each year upward movement is not going to happen. Our real question right now is why we are not being competitive in the Maac in basketball , are the bulk of the other conference schools spending more money than us (and Niagara) or are other factors in play? Most likely everything is a moving target at this point with the changes taking place but it is always going to come down to "How much are you paying me" for most players and will continue to escalate. The only real solution for many current div1 schools is to go back to a non NIL environment whether that is a div 1AA or unfortunately down to div2 or 3, only time will tell how it is going to work out but that time is running short for many schools it would appear!

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[> [> Re: Brianstorming NIL Solutions -- Griff, Sat, December 27 2025, 6:31:11

D2 and D3 have other variables that I don't think are inviting to most if not all of the current mid-majors. At least in the short term. Your 1AA or FBS/FCS arrangement is most likely on the horizon. I don't believe, however, that it will be nearly as successful in hoops as it is in football - especially when it comes to the post-season. But that's a discussion for another time.

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[> Re: Brianstorming NIL Solutions -- alum, Sat, December 27 2025, 8:50:42

The present NIL arrangement can't work long term. At some point over the next five years or so the power conferences and some select teams from conferences like the A-10 are going to realign, and the rest will effectively become a 1AA conference. Teams like Xavier, Georgetown and Gonzaga may make it to the upper level, but I don't see how even they can compete long term with the likes of Michigan, Ohio State and Alabama, with the football revenue they can produce for other programs.

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[> [> Re: Brianstorming NIL Solutions -- Interesting..., Tue, December 30 2025, 14:18:01

Very good points. It might be a situation where the schools that de-emphasize football compared to basketball (or that don't have football) have a competitive advantage because they can sink more institutional NIL funding into basketball.

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[> [> Re: Brianstorming NIL Solutions -- Greg, Tue, December 30 2025, 15:56:49

At some point schools will need to go to multi-year NIL contracts. Why pay for a player for just one season where he will inevitably sit out the post season to preserve his health for the next school?

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