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Date Posted: 17:25:51 12/01/10 Wed
Author: LauraG
Subject: Re: ignorance
In reply to: stewart 's message, "ignorance" on 15:29:28 12/01/10 Wed

Thank you.
I totally agree. It is much easier to cast aspersions about others without really listening to your own remarks. I'm afraid I was guilty of "ruining" an otherwise pleasant Thanksgiving because I finally lost it after my sister's boyfriend had made the "nth" number racist comment. I told him he was being rude and racist and I would not allow such comments in my home. I then retired to my room. He was gone the next morning before I got up. It took a lot for me to say what I did and at the same time, it took me way too long to say it. Perhaps if I had commented sooner, I'd not have been so angry. I sat there hoping my sister would respond as she knows how I feel, but the truth is, I don't think she was hearing it and not only that, she was beginning to do it as well.
Often, we are oblivious to our comments and will collude with our acquaintances. (I'm much more likely to gossip with a certain group of friends) It often takes stepping back and giving myself time to respond rather than jumping right in. If I don't think, I'm much more likely to pre-judge (prejudice). If I want to "attack" the person rather than what they are saying, I'm in trouble.
I guess what I'd like to be able to do better would be to argue my case with the best facts possible at hand.
My sister and I were talking the other day about her passing on emails without knowing they are true or not. "Just because someone says to pass it on to ten people, doesn't mean you have to. If it is humorous or thought provoking, great, but if you don't know if it is true or not, don't pass it on."
I too hesitate to label myself as anything in particular , but if that's the case, then I shouldn't "label" others.

Thanks for your thought provoking entry. I don't care whether you are Australian or American or white or red or green, I just think you're a really great guy. Consider yourself unofficially adopted and a member of Laura's Super Nephew Club! (You're in great company!)

Love,
LauraG

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[> Re: ignorance -- marse, 18:46:23 12/01/10 Wed

you think your PISSED OFF. You are .......this country was based on freedom of speech...can't have it here tho. You edit it or come back on in a snit. This country was based on freedom of religion.....You bleeped out some ones comment. You take the capital G out of God and the Christ out of Christmas. Go for it. Freedom of speech...right? The backgrounds of all countries through the ages have been abusive in takeovers of the native inhabitants...I am sorry about that. At this pont in time what are we suppossed to do. We are not responsible for generations passed, however we do have a responsibility to this generation and hopefully many generations to come. What exactly are you doing about improving this country????? and yet you gripe to the rest of us. I am American born and raised..My family have fought in wars to protect our rights and many have lost their lives. This country is by no means perfect...HOWEVER...It is better than most. I am 65 years old and I have seen things change. I am a Political activist, one of the original members of NOW, Peace Marshall, helped with the creation and protection of TENT city (Isiac Foster) in Mississippi in the mid 60's, marched to show respect when Martin Luther King was killed, was a family member of the President of the National Conference of Christians and Jews, was involved with the security of the Prime Minister of Isreal when he visited Cleveland, Ohio. Millions of AMERICANS have joined the causes I have mentioned and still strive to keep this country one of the best. Don't take the attitude that you know best. That does not fly with me. Things can change and things should, however take it to the top..write your rants to your Government officials...Things can be changed for the better...Unity and strength....There are ways to be in CONTROL of many situations instead of being CONTROLED. Many of us.. AMERICANS.. have done the best we can and will continue to do so. Is everything up to YOUR standards??? probably not....will it ever be? probably not. ACTIONS speak louder than WORDS...I was told by your partner you were very PASSIONATE about YOUR opinions....Respect others opinions also....Respect is a very important issue to coming to positive conclusions between all people of all countries, religions,colors,creeds. Wealth is sometimes abused and that is a basic issue. Many wealthy people work hard to protect out rights, our less fortunate,they donate money, food, volunteer for tons of causes, take on patients with no charge at all, help with medicines, travel to other countries to help the poor and ill.. at their own expence.....It is not a perfect world. However...I am Proud to be an American, and have the freedom to say...God Bless America and God Bless all who come here....MERRY CHRISTMAS to all who believe, and Happy Holidays to all.


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[> [> Re: ignorance -- Debbie S., 20:34:35 12/02/10 Thu

Marse,

I commend the community activities you have been involved in. I wish more Americans would step up and get involved instead of sitting around being entertained.

I for one, have done mission work at Twin Wells Indian School in Arizona, a Navajo, Christian school. A highlight was the privilege of being invited onto the reservation to meet members of the student's families and to worship with them. They prepared us a wonderful meal, fry bread and vegetables. We conducted VBS, built a gym, worked their thrift shop and helped organize the library. They can always use volunteers.

Currently, I am working with the Potawotomi Indians trying to find the correct historical place to put a marker in Johnson County, Kansas to mark the route taken on the Potawatomi Trail of Death relocation march (like the Cherokee Trail of Tears only on a smaller scale). Kansas and Oklahoma were main relocation destinations for Indians East of the Mississippi from the 1830s to the 1870s, after the Indian Removal Act of 1830. I have been researching the extraordinary works of missionaries such as Issac McCoy, Thomas Johnson and Father Benjamin Pettit in trying to set up missions to help the displaced Indians. Despite the atrocities committed by the government, there were also many individuals and churches that genuinely cared for the welfare of the Native Americans.

Debbie S.


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[> [> [> Re: ignorance -- marse, 05:18:14 12/03/10 Fri

Debbie, small world. I was involved with the Lakota tribe through a church group who have for years helped the tribe through a lot of trials and tribulations. I also was fortunate enough to meet a wonderful woman named Anna Mae Aquash during the early and mid 70's. She was an active member of AIM and in her effort to help the Native Americans she was killed. It was a very sad event. My little girl, Amanda..1980-1997, and my son Robert's Godmother was on the bureau of Indian affairs here in Connecticut. She moved to Puyalup Wa. and Passed several years ago. I helped with the re-burial of native american's (Nehantic) when the land was being sold and the land was being dug up( burial grounds) for houses that were going to be built. Their remains were being taken and put on display at museums....Several of us went and approached churches and ask if they could bury the remainns on their properties. A major fuss was made and the remains were finally laid to rest in a proper fashion....This upset my young daughter who had a gentle spirit. After her death, I approached the 2 large cassinos and ask if they could put up a marker for the Nehantic burial remains. It took 2 years but they did respond and the monument was set up. AND thank you for your previous comments you made to me in reference to another fuss on the board. It was appreciated....


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