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Date Posted: 10:02:25 01/23/03 Thu
Author: FawnDoo
Subject: My own two cents
In reply to: Perceptor II 's message, "Some responses" on 19:34:38 01/21/03 Tue

"I agree that the TV shows are "bawdy", but that's a reason to bomb Britain, not Iraq, since it seems that the worst shows are derived from programs from that country."

Bomb us? Why? We make good shows, it's just when TV execs in America try to do their own versions of them that they fall flat on their faces :-) If you bomb anyone, bomb Ireland - every film in recent memory which features "Scotland" was actually filmed over there, so bomb them and we'll make the filmmakers actually film in Scotland! (10% cut in it for you!) :-)

"For all the talk worldwide about how terrible it is that Bush is pushing for invading Iraq, I'm actually impressed by how he's altered his position to build a worldwide consensus behind him. And I believe it is a good thing that Saddam Hussein be confronted for its behavior."

However, his record in actually being able to build that consensus and present convincing evidence of the Iraqi administration's wrongdoings is not so impressive. Bush did work to get international opinion behind him, but look what happens when he fails - his adminstration does not rule out unilateral action regardless of what the UN says. As Goktimus points out the vast majority of UN signatories - our allies in peace - are opposed to this action. By not ruling out the possibility of unilateral action without the approval of the UN, then the countries threatening such action attack the very principles the UN was founded upon. You can't sign up every kid in the school to a club that plans to outlaw bullies and then turn into one yourself, it just doesn't work that way.

I also agree that it is a good thing that Saddam be confronted, but I have to wonder why he has been picked out of all the problem countries right now. Granted he isn't a very nice man and would have to be dealt with at one point, but with North Korea re-opening nuclear (quiet aside to Dubya - it's pronounced new-clear, not new-kew-lurr) reactors and removing UN inspection equipment, increasing destablisation in the Palestinian/Israeli situation, rebuilding Afghanistan into something its people can live in, hunting down the rest of the Taleban and Al-Qaeda, dealing with the Bali bombers, sorting out the suspended Northern Ireland assembly (direct rule is still in place) could the argument not be made that right now the UN was busy enough and that the world had enough to deal with right now? Right now picking out Saddam for special treatment (the kind that involves aircraft carriers and guns, not chocolate and drawing him a nice hot bath) strikes the cynical eye as a distraction to divert the attention of the masses away from what appears to be a faltering hunt for mister Bin Laden and his helpers. I agree he has to be dealt with - the timing is what gives me pause.

On a final point, I find it distressing that Donald "Rummy" Rumsfeld and Jack Straw (our foreign secretary) have made noises saying they would support an exile deal for Saddam - and the possibility of immunity from prosecution is hanging in the air. If they do that then forgive me, but they might as well get the keys to the Hague and let Milosevic go, because if we prosecute one dictator for war crimes and then put ourselves above the court and law we founded by striking a deal with another then we will finally have completely divorced ourselves from our principles.

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