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Date Posted: 18:03:42 10/28/05 Fri
Author: DAVIS
Subject: HEADS AND WELDED ON TABS RULES ETC

I SHOULD KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT AND BE HAPPY THAT SO FAR YATES IS VOTED AT 89 PERCENT, BUT I JUST CANT..........PEOPLE KEEPS TALKING FACTORY THIS, FACTORY THAT, ETC ETC.......LETS BE REAL........ IF YOU CANT WELD TABS ON THE REAR END ,YOU CANT WELD THEM TO THE FRAME RAIL FOR MOTOR AND MID PLATES.......IF THE SO CALLED CONVENTIONAL NEEDS TO BE USED, WHAT CAR CAME WITH A CONVENTIONAL NITROUS , PAIR OF SLICKS ,WHEELIE BARS, ROLL CAGE ,PARACHUTE ,CONVENTIONAL TALL DECK (LIKE ALL THE CARS CAME STOCK LOL)CONVENTIONAL OPENED EXAUST, CONVENTIONAL WINDOWS, ETC ETC THIS CAN GO ON FOR MILES .............. THE POINT IS WE GOT 10.5 TIRES AND EVERY PART OF THE REAR SUSPENTION HAS TO BOLT ONTO THE FACTORY LOCATION,,,,, BUT WE ADD STUFF TO HELP US ,THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS ................ITS JUST POINT OF THE MATTER FOR WHAT WE ALL DO AND HAVE IN THE CARS...........IF YOU HAVENT BEEN TO THE MEMBER BOARD, YOU DONT KNOW THE POSTS IM TALKING ABOUT ,SO NO RESPONCE IS NEEDED, UNLESS YOU HAVE READ EVERY POST THERE .......IF YOU HAVE PLEASE POST WHAT YOU FEEL, BUT LETS BE FAIR HERE ON THE BIG PICTURE .........WE GOT 10.5 TIRES FACTORY SUSPENTION WITH ADD ONS, FULL INTERIOR ,HECK I STILL HAVE POWER WINDOWS LOL ..........WE GOT 2 CLASSES LETS KEEP EM GOING ....AND A 302 BLOCK WITH YATES AINT HURTING NO ONE IN THE UPPER CLASS( WITH 680 PLUS C.I.ALL READY ALLOWED) AND THE OTHER CLASS CAN VOTE A WHOLE NEW SET OF RULES FOR WHAT THEY WANT ...........THE MORE POSTS I READ I AM STARTING TO AGREE WITH SHAWN ON THIS DEAL (TO A EXTINT), ONE CLASS LET EM ALL OUT ON FACTORY SUSPENTION (BUT ADD WEIGHT TO BIG BLOCKS WITH UNCONVENTIONL HEADS JUST LIKE SMALL BLOCKS), AND ONE CLASS WITH A BREAK OUT INDEX FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE BAD ASS CARS BUT CANT COMPETE FOR FIRST PLACE WITH THE FASTEST CARS IN THE CLASS ............THANKS FOR YOUR TIME READING JUST MY POINT OF VEIW............

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[> Re: HEADS AND WELDED ON TABS RULES ETC -- DAVIS, 16:11:00 10/29/05 Sat

And since i received a few emails on this post ,,,,,,,to clarify I meant if the only way yates is voted in is to also let big blocks run big cheifs ,then they should have to add weight just like small blocks ........not saying i want to totaly change up the rulls and allow that like it came across but if thats what people wants then im ok by that is what was meant ....to be honest i dont think i should have to take a 100 or 200 pd hit because of the yates ,it is a small engine spraying only one kit but i just want a place to play with it so im willing to work with this if the majority will vote to find a way to let me in ........


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[> Re: HEADS AND WELDED ON TABS RULES ETC -- Glenn, 13:26:39 11/02/05 Wed

As I'm trying to get ready for this class this is what I think: In terms of suspension, any type of traction device which bolts onto the welded tab on the rearend should be considered stock. Utilizing U-bolts to secure the bar/arm is a stock modification regardless of what type of set-up it is. Frame connectors are welded in so then front mounting points for bars/arms should be allowed as well so long as it bolts to it respectively.

For instance, if fully bolt-in kits containing lift bars and coil springs to replace leaf springs is available it should be still be considered stock. These do exist. Stock is defined as still being essentially bolted in as far as suspension goes.

In terms of engine mods, this has been going on for a while now. Allowing small blocks to run symmetrical port heads (chevy) and Yates (Ford) sbould not really constitute a weight penalty. Why? Because they're still small blocks just with better heads now. Big block heads flow way more than small blocks and there's still the cubic inch factor. A 600 plus in rat with conventional-style heads still has a huge advantage over a Yates or symmetrical headed 400 inch small block. That's for real, guys. Find some common ground on these issues so you can attract more racers and fans to FSTA events. Once again, thanks for hearing us out. Guys like me are waiting to get into the FSTA. Good luck!


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