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Date Posted: 17:30:16 08/12/03 Tue
Author: BZC
Subject: Oh my god....
So....my wonderful gov of the state of Utah, Mike Leavitt, has been nominated to run the US Environmental Protection Agency(EPA). Our fearless leader, "W", is calling him an "environmental moderate"....my ass. I'm closer to environmental moderate then Mike Leavitt could ever be....this country is quickly going to hell in a handbasket...so much for even the concept of environmental protection. How does people becoming rich become so much more important than clean air and water?
Full moon today.....
Behind the Zion Curtain
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After reading "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy" I'm beginning to understand how much worse this could get. The utter selfishness of big business and corrupt governments is hard to comprehend. -- Cheesy....waving to BZC, 18:32:17 08/12/03 Tue
>So....my wonderful gov of the state of Utah, Mike
>Leavitt, has been nominated to run the US
>Environmental Protection Agency(EPA). Our fearless
>leader, "W", is calling him an "environmental
>moderate"....my ass. I'm closer to environmental
>moderate then Mike Leavitt could ever be....this
>country is quickly going to hell in a handbasket...so
>much for even the concept of environmental protection.
> How does people becoming rich become so much more
>important than clean air and water?
>
>Full moon today.....
>
>Behind the Zion Curtain
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I guess the rich people are SO rich that they are building some space ships in a big bunker somewhere so that they can escape this lousy planet once they've trashed it? Somebody should tell them Mars doesn't HAVE air and water... -- magic1, 04:07:21 08/13/03 Wed
>So....my wonderful gov of the state of Utah, Mike
>Leavitt, has been nominated to run the US
>Environmental Protection Agency(EPA). Our fearless
>leader, "W", is calling him an "environmental
>moderate"....my ass. I'm closer to environmental
>moderate then Mike Leavitt could ever be....this
>country is quickly going to hell in a handbasket...so
>much for even the concept of environmental protection.
> How does people becoming rich become so much more
>important than clean air and water?
>
>Full moon today.....
>
>Behind the Zion Curtain
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Rich people only care about power & money. They don't care if the planet's not around in 100 years or so, cause they'll be long gone. Nothing's ever going to make me believe politicians care about anything BUT power & money -- Amy, 08:14:27 08/13/03 Wed
>So....my wonderful gov of the state of Utah, Mike
>Leavitt, has been nominated to run the US
>Environmental Protection Agency(EPA). Our fearless
>leader, "W", is calling him an "environmental
>moderate"....my ass. I'm closer to environmental
>moderate then Mike Leavitt could ever be....this
>country is quickly going to hell in a handbasket...so
>much for even the concept of environmental protection.
> How does people becoming rich become so much more
>important than clean air and water?
>
>Full moon today.....
>
>Behind the Zion Curtain
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Oh my god, What a huge crock of shit! Why don't you try doing your homework on a subject before you go off the deep end with your scardy cat rantings about something you know nothing about! -- ., 16:12:23 08/13/03 Wed
>So....my wonderful gov of the state of Utah, Mike
>Leavitt, has been nominated to run the US
>Environmental Protection Agency(EPA). Our fearless
>leader, "W", is calling him an "environmental
>moderate"....my ass. I'm closer to environmental
>moderate then Mike Leavitt could ever be....this
>country is quickly going to hell in a handbasket...so
>much for even the concept of environmental protection.
> How does people becoming rich become so much more
>important than clean air and water?
>
>Full moon today.....
>
>Behind the Zion Curtain
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So why don't you sign your name...Mr. Leavitt? So who's the scaredy cat, really? -- magic1, 18:33:29 08/13/03 Wed
>>So....my wonderful gov of the state of Utah, Mike
>>Leavitt, has been nominated to run the US
>>Environmental Protection Agency(EPA). Our fearless
>>leader, "W", is calling him an "environmental
>>moderate"....my ass. I'm closer to environmental
>>moderate then Mike Leavitt could ever be....this
>>country is quickly going to hell in a handbasket...so
>>much for even the concept of environmental protection.
>> How does people becoming rich become so much more
>>important than clean air and water?
>>
>>Full moon today.....
>>
>>Behind the Zion Curtain
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Hello BZC! And to the anomynous poster, how do you know that BZC knows nothing about the environment or Mr. Leavitt? And what exactly makes you an expert, where are your credentials? I am so tired of Ad Hominem attacks meant to silence and intimidate, such a tried and true tactic of the True Believer! -- spoot, 00:52:25 08/14/03 Thu
>>>So....my wonderful gov of the state of Utah, Mike
>>>Leavitt, has been nominated to run the US
>>>Environmental Protection Agency(EPA). Our fearless
>>>leader, "W", is calling him an "environmental
>>>moderate"....my ass. I'm closer to environmental
>>>moderate then Mike Leavitt could ever be....this
>>>country is quickly going to hell in a handbasket...so
>>>much for even the concept of environmental
>protection.
>>> How does people becoming rich become so much more
>>>important than clean air and water?
>>>
>>>Full moon today.....
>>>
>>>Behind the Zion Curtain
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I'm getting a good laugh out of someone questioning BZC's credentials, myself. -- Amy, who knows BZC knows the truth is out there, 06:21:12 08/14/03 Thu
>So....my wonderful gov of the state of Utah, Mike
>Leavitt, has been nominated to run the US
>Environmental Protection Agency(EPA). Our fearless
>leader, "W", is calling him an "environmental
>moderate"....my ass. I'm closer to environmental
>moderate then Mike Leavitt could ever be....this
>country is quickly going to hell in a handbasket...so
>much for even the concept of environmental protection.
> How does people becoming rich become so much more
>important than clean air and water?
>
>Full moon today.....
>
>Behind the Zion Curtain
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Whoa! Good call, BZC! As to the anonymous poster, well - anonymous opinions genreally tend to be ignored. If you have an opinion, stand by it. Cheesy - that's a VERY good book - recommend it to you all! -- gumtree, 10:38:58 08/14/03 Thu
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Iv constantly heard of how much damage we did to planet earth. We alter it more than other creatures, But how is it damaging? What animal has put out a lightning caused fire?. What animal cleans up its own mess. Even yellowstone has garbage cans and bathrooms. Do you know of any other creature that has that. Humans alter the earth but they help it more than hurt it and they are the only creatures that can change there surroundings.It's just ourselves, It doesnt destroy the earth. Its just environmentalist in text books that try to make humans feel guilty for being humans. -- Me, 17:06:41 08/14/03 Thu
>So....my wonderful gov of the state of Utah, Mike
>Leavitt, has been nominated to run the US
>Environmental Protection Agency(EPA). Our fearless
>leader, "W", is calling him an "environmental
>moderate"....my ass. I'm closer to environmental
>moderate then Mike Leavitt could ever be....this
>country is quickly going to hell in a handbasket...so
>much for even the concept of environmental protection.
> How does people becoming rich become so much more
>important than clean air and water?
>
>Full moon today.....
>
>Behind the Zion Curtain
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I am pretty sure poo and the occasional fire is a good thing, environmentally speaking. It's just inconvenient for tourists. -- Cheesy, 18:15:51 08/14/03 Thu
>>So....my wonderful gov of the state of Utah, Mike
>>Leavitt, has been nominated to run the US
>>Environmental Protection Agency(EPA). Our fearless
>>leader, "W", is calling him an "environmental
>>moderate"....my ass. I'm closer to environmental
>>moderate then Mike Leavitt could ever be....this
>>country is quickly going to hell in a handbasket...so
>>much for even the concept of environmental protection.
>> How does people becoming rich become so much more
>>important than clean air and water?
>>
>>Full moon today.....
>>
>>Behind the Zion Curtain
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I see your point Me but I think that when we started driving around in cars, we really tipped the balance. A couple of forest fires don't compare to that kind of environmental impact. And squirrels just dig nuts out of the ground not coal and oil. I blame the fundamentalist mindset, which looks forward to a reward in some future life so who cares about this planet? -- magic1, 04:27:04 08/15/03 Fri
>>So....my wonderful gov of the state of Utah, Mike
>>Leavitt, has been nominated to run the US
>>Environmental Protection Agency(EPA). Our fearless
>>leader, "W", is calling him an "environmental
>>moderate"....my ass. I'm closer to environmental
>>moderate then Mike Leavitt could ever be....this
>>country is quickly going to hell in a handbasket...so
>>much for even the concept of environmental protection.
>> How does people becoming rich become so much more
>>important than clean air and water?
>>
>>Full moon today.....
>>
>>Behind the Zion Curtain
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Hey Magic, I understand your point but, I do my own home work though and usually and I steer clear from believing what certain political party members (with their own political best interests at heart) tells me. Nor do I listen to certain political party members who try to scare me into voting the way they want me to. Here's a link that explains my point a little better. There are some interesting articles there. -- Me, 14:57:08 08/15/03 Fri
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oops Forgot the link! http://www.sitewave.net/news/s49p1354.htm -- Me, 15:01:46 08/15/03 Fri
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Your link is interesting for several reasons - first, it debunks "scientists" - but who the hell is William Robert Johnston? Why should I believe him? Secondly, yes, there are alternative explanations to 'global warming' - but if someone tells you they left the gas on, do you light a match to check? One wears a seatbelt while riding in a car - not because you EXPECT a collision, but in case one happens. We have dumped a tremendous amount of junk in the air - Mr. Johnson only addresses carbon dioxide...*click* -- gumtree (again), 07:18:23 08/19/03 Tue
There's carbon MONoxide (the major pollutant in car exhausts) which is NOT 'recyclable in nature' - that is, trees dont breathe it like they do carbon DIoxide. How about sulfur dioxide? How about unburned fuel?
Its not quite that simple. I would prefer to reduce the level of pollution where we can NOW, than be wishing in the future that I had done something when I could. The 'economic devastation' that Mr. Johnson claims is absurd - think of all the industry DEVELOPED to make the anti-pollution gear (the auto companies dont make catalytic converters, several outside vendors do that).
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Well, Me - we must all remember that the pollution laws were put into effect to prevent an eventuality - that if we had continued at the rate prior to restrictions, we would now be breathing coal dust for air, drinking sewage and dying at a great rate (and wondering why). Having lived long enough to know what it was like BEFORE car exhaust emission standards - I'm certainly not in favor of rolling them BACK, as Mr. Leavitt has proposed. -- gumtree, 07:01:59 08/19/03 Tue
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Been to Mexico City lately? *cough* *choke* -- Amy, 11:49:24 08/19/03 Tue
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Re: Oh my god.... -- ., 12:11:42 12/01/03 Mon
>So....my wonderful gov of the state of Utah, Mike
>Leavitt, has been nominated to run the US
>Environmental Protection Agency(EPA). Our fearless
>leader, "W", is calling him an "environmental
>moderate"....my ass. I'm closer to environmental
>moderate then Mike Leavitt could ever be....this
>country is quickly going to hell in a handbasket...so
>much for even the concept of environmental protection.
> How does people becoming rich become so much more
>important than clean air and water?
>
>Full moon today.....
>
>Behind the Zion Curtain
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