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Date Posted: 07/31/01 21:51:17
Author: Abdireyim
Subject: "Ä" ni "E" dep elishmu qa'idige uyghun

Hormetlik dostlar "Ä" ni "E" dep elishmu qa'idige uyghun.

>>>>>Waris wrote: Mäning shäxsän UKY ilmiyliki toghrisidiki chüshänchäm mundaq:
(1) Ä ni ä däp ipadiläsh tilshunasliq qa'idisigä wä yeziq layihäläsh qa'idisigä häm xälq'ara qa'idilärgä intayin Uyghun. Bumu köz yumushqa bolmaydighan pakit. (Tilshunaslar qät'iy mushuni qollaydu)
(2) Ä ni e däp elish kompyuterda kirgüzüshkä asan bolush, eghiz tiligha yeqin bolush(häqiqätän men, qelem däp sözläydighanlar bar), chastotisi yuquri bolush degändäk artuqchliqi bilän kompyuterchilarning zor küch bilän qollishigha erishishi ämäliyät.
>>>>>>>>

Toghra Ä ni ä dep ipadilesh tilshunasliq qa'idilirigha Uyghun, shuning bilen teng Ä ni "e" dep elishmu tilshunasliq qa'idilirige Uyghun, kim Uyghun emes diyeleydiken? Dunyada nurghunlighan tillarda "e" ni /e/(emgek) dep oquydu. Eger uyghun bolmighan bolsa shu tillarda "e" ni Ä dep ipadiligen bolatti, elwette.

Undaqta ikkilisila qa'idige uyghun sharaitta biz u ikki herpning bashqa tereptiki alahidiliklirini bir biri bilen yaxshi selishturup andin birni tallishimiz kerek. Qaysi qolayliq, qaysisini ishletkende mujumellikler az korunidu bu hemmimizge ayan(buni Waris yuqarda yahshi shey'ilep otti). Undaq iken biz "e" tallishimiz kerek.

Towendikidek neqilni keltureyli:

Bizning "Da Xi Men" din "Dong Kowruk(ErDaoChiao)"ke berish uchun bir qanche tallashlirimiz bar:
Birinchi usul:
17. yolgha olturup Nan Min da chushup 1. yolgha olturup andin berish.
Ikkinchi usul:(hazir 61. yol ozgurup ketmigenla bolsa)
61. yolgha olturup uddul Dong Kowruk(Er Dao Chiao)"ke berish.

Yuqarqi ikkila usulda kozlimekchi bolghan nishangha yeteleymiz, dimek ikki usul qa'idige uyghun. Lekin qaysisining biwaste hem qolayliq hem ihsatliq ikenligini bir qarapla bilgili bolidu.

"Ä" bolsa "e" gha qarighanda epsiz bir tallash. Uni komputerda chiqirish uchun ikki kunupkini berisqa toghra kelidu(bir konupka basimen disingiz keyboardni ozgertishingiz kerek, lekin bizge bu nurghun qalaymiqanchiliqlarni elip kelidu). "E" ni bolsa biwaste bir kunupka bilenla chiqiralaysiz, shundaqla bir herpni ikki hil yezishtek "mujumel" ishtin("ayrim hallarda "Ä" ni "E" dep yazsimu bolidu" deydighan) ozimizni epchillik bilen qachuralaymiz.

Yene kelip bu yerde

>>>>Waris wrote: Hazirqi märkizi mäsilä, qandaq qilip tilshunaslar bilän kompyuterchilar(~shunaslar) ni bir-birigä baghlash, öz-ara chüshänchä hasil qilish.>>>>

Mahiyette oz ara chushenmeslik mesilisi mewjut emes dep oylaymen, peqeta tilshunas aka we hedilimiz "e" gha bolghan tonishi yengilash(update) kerek.

Chunki dunyada "e" ni tallisaq qaydilirigha uyghun bolmaydu deydighan da'ide mejjut emes, qandaqsige tilshunaslar bilen komputer shunashlar otturisida ihtilap bolidu shundaqla bu yerde

>>>>Waris wrote: tilshunasliq jähättiki ilmiylik ikkilämchi orunda turidu....>>>

deydighan mesilimu mewjut emes. Chunki yuqarida sozlep ottuq Ä ni ä(ämgäk) dep elish we Ä ni "e"(emgek) dep elish ikkisila qa'idige uyghun, biraq Ä ni "e" dep elish bizning tilimizgha nisbeten eqilgha muapiq toghra tallashtur. Ä ni ä dep elish qa'idige uyghun bolsa boliwersun, uni ishletmisekla boldi. Chunki bizning qolimizda bashqa qa'idige uyghun shey'iler bar yeni Ä ni "e" dep elishmu qa'idige uyghun. Bundaq shara'itta eng qolayliq bolghan tallashni ishlitishimiz kerek.

Abdireyim
Waqit：2001-07-13.15:01:44　

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