VoyForums

Login ] [ Contact Forum Admin ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 1234 ]
Subject: Post 274 B: The MacGregors, 'Children of the Mist'


Author:
teltalheart/moderator
[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]
Date Posted: 17:56:55 06/01/11 Wed
Author Host/IP: 98-159-200-219.scottsboro.org/98.159.200.219

Post 274 B: The MacGregors, 'Children of the Mist'

It is a fact that religion has little to do with documented historical fact. It has much more to do with superstition than fact.

'It has served us well, this myth of Christ.' - Pope Leo X

It was argued by professor Hermann Samuel Reimarus, between 1744 and 1767, of Hamburg, that Jesus was little more than a failed Judaic revolutionary.

Nineteenth century German biblical scholarship has dated the Gospels to having been composed at least a generation after the events had happened. This date is still deemed valid today. How hazy do memories become in the mind of man twenty five or even fifty years after the day they occured?
On April 27th 2011 the great tornado outbreak destroyed several churches in the southern U.S. Would anyone care to say that was the work of God? Or that God, for whatever reason, was angry at churches in the south? No?

Why then should it be deemed the work of this same God when something happens to someone or, some group or organization that is not of the same ilk?

The Scottish Clan MacGregor is descended from Giric, or Grig, (Modern Gaelic: Griogair mac Dhunghail; King of the Picts or King of Alba, born abt. 855 A.D.,. Giric was the possible son of (father) Doungallas and (mother) Spontana, daughter of Kenneth mac Alpin, King of Scotland (Cinaed mac Ailpin, King of the Picts from 841 to 858). Spontana has also been said to be the dau. of the High King of Ireland.

Doungallas is said to be the son of Prince Gregor, the son of King Alpin (King of Dalriada 833-841 A.D.). No evidence of the existance of Prince Gregor has ever been found. However, During the English occupation of Scotland at the end of the 13th century Edward Plantagenet, King of England, ordered the destruction of all public records of Scotland, probably to ensure only his line and or only his descendants could claim the throne of Scotland and Ireland. This is also what the Romans had done to the public records of the hereditary line of the Kings of the Jews. Possibly leaving a young Prince, Jesus, without a claim to the throne.

Thus the Clan Gregor had a royal claim on both Scotland and Ireland. This would probably have been the underlaying reason for their great misfortunes and turmoil during the 15th, 16th and 17th centuries; courtesy of and engineered by the English Crown. The Clan Gregor apparently had a true claim to the throne. It is the only thing that explains the reason for their extremely harsh treatment. It first began with the first claimant to the throne of Scotland, Robert the Bruce. The Bruce granted the barony of Loch Awe to the chief of the Campbells. This barony included much of the MacGregor lands. In April 1603 James VI, Stuart (1567-1625) issued an edict proclaiming the name of MacGregor 'altogidder abolished'. James I of England, James VI of Scotland was the first to incorporate the arms of Scotland and Ireland into the arms of England as his possession. The MacGregors were hunted like animals. Bloodhounds were used to flush them out of the heather. They took to hiding in the Highland, thus acquiring the name 'Children of the Mist.' The MacGregors, despite their savage treatment, fought for King Charles II Stuart during the civil war.

The Crown of the Picts (Scots) was first lost due to religious superstition in the year 885 A.D. due to, of all things, a solar eclipse on St Cyrus's day, June 16th.

Because the line of descent becomes murky, depending on what source is used, I have included both versions of the line of descent.

End Post 274 B: The MacGregors, 'Children of the Mist.' www.voy.com/40560/, teltalheart=Michael D. Barnes

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]


Post a message:
This forum requires an account to post.
[ Create Account ]
[ Login ]
[ Contact Forum Admin ]



Forum timezone: GMT-6
VF Version: 3.00b, ConfDB:
Before posting please read our privacy policy.
VoyForums(tm) is a Free Service from Voyager Info-Systems.
Copyright © 1998-2019 Voyager Info-Systems. All Rights Reserved.