VoyForums
[ Show ]
Support VoyForums
[ Shrink ]
VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

[ Login ] [ Contact Forum Admin ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 1, 2, 3, [4] ]

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Date Posted: 16:02:37 04/19/02 Fri
Author: stored
Subject: R1

Religion I


The Philosopher's Corner, (and its varied forums) is for those wishing to debate ideas in an
environment relatively free of personal attacks. This does NOT mean that ideas are not to be
challenged and/or heavily debated. Bringing arguments from another forum to this forum or any
other PC forum totally distorts the original message made, gives a biased slant and is
inappropriate. Standing firm and making one's case on its own merits is the intelligent choice.
Attacking and/or challenging an opinion is fair game.. Attacking someone personally is not.
--Susan

Alternative R1 forum
Benefits: length of posts are basically unlimited, and if webforums break down we'll have a
backup forum. :)








MESSAGES IN THIS FORUM ARE PRESENTED AS NEWEST TO OLDEST.

Sim 2
In Response To Dori
Friday April 19, 2002 at 18:02

How about peas?

Sounds good to me, Barb puts "butter" in them, and I eat like a "hog". (yep, even grunt)lol

Ten Megaton Solution
Friday April 19, 2002 at 18:00

Skip Leviticus? SKIP Leviticus? SKIP LEVITICUS?

You can't do that. That's where the cud chewing rabbit is.

Murray
In Response To dori
Friday April 19, 2002 at 18:00

Orientals eat meat loaf?

dori
In Response To Sim
Friday April 19, 2002 at 17:58

Well pull up a chair with Murray. I made lots! Hee hee... What vegetable shall I make? How
about peas?

dori
In Response To Murray
Friday April 19, 2002 at 17:57

Cold meatloaf sandwiches are the BEST! Grin... On rye bread! Have you ever had meatloaf
fried rice? An oriental friend of mine fixed that for me once with my leftover meatloaf and it
was really good! Yum! See you later. Bon appetit!

Sim 2
In Response To Dori
Friday April 19, 2002 at 17:56

But we're just having leftover spaghetti and meatballs.

I like "leftovers", Barb says we don't need a "garbage disposal" with me around. lol

I put some grapes and apple in my cooler last night and ate them on the way home, so I'm not
"too hungry" right now, but give me a couple of hours and I'll start "disposing". lol

Murray
In Response To dori
Friday April 19, 2002 at 17:51

Sounds like a plan. See ya later. BTW, I like spaghetti warmed over also, but the ultimate in
warmed over eating delight is meat loaf. Much, much better the second time and also one of
the most overlooked sandwich possibilities. And, you can cut it up and put it in spaghetti
sauce. Then you really have something. LOL

dori
In Response To Well, Murray...
Friday April 19, 2002 at 17:45

...after I finish the first five books (almost done with Leviticus), I'll read that one. A good friend
of mine told me it was important to read Leviticus, even though I wanted to just skip it. So, I'm
reading it anyway. I kind of glossed over it the other night and didn't see anything of much
interest, I'm afraid. But, I want to at least do the first five books for a better understanding of
the laws of the time. I've always ignored them.

Murray
In Response To dori
Friday April 19, 2002 at 17:38

"You know, I'll bet if we tried we could probably find a lot of scripture that blends both
points of view..."

That's because Scripture does blend both points of view.

It paints a tremendous picture of the grace of God being poured into our lives and of a lifestyle
we are to live in the world. The most beautiful example of this is the book of Ephesians, which
is six chapters. The first three deal almost exclusively with what God did for us. The last three
with what we are to do for Him and for others.

dori
In Response To Sim
Friday April 19, 2002 at 17:37

I guess that's more work for you, huh? LOL! Must be nice to sand bag. They'll pay the piper
one day, though. Sorry to disappoint ya, but we're just having leftover spaghetti and meatballs.
Of course, it always tastes better the second day to me. 8-)

Sim 2
In Response To Dori
Friday April 19, 2002 at 17:23

Yep, nice trip, 5 of the workers at GM took the day off to attend the "races", their
"replacments" took 4 hours to do what they normally do in 1, then I had to stop at the terminal
and have my air conditioner "fixed".

18 hour day are "nice". LOL

What's fur supper? Must be something "good", people who call it "dinner" fix stuff I don't like.
LOL

dori
In Response To Hey Sim!
Friday April 19, 2002 at 17:18

Things're kinda quiet right now. I'm heading off to fix supper in a minute. Did you have a nice
trip?

Sim 2
In Response To Ya'll
Friday April 19, 2002 at 17:12

OK, funs over, I'm back. LOL

dori
In Response To Pac
Friday April 19, 2002 at 16:57

Might I suggest a visit to your local library and a perusal of some of the art books? Most of
that type of art is symbolic and I daresay modern day theologians would be hard pressed to
interpret their meanings. I do know there were several biblical scenes depicted back in
Michelangelo's era. But art is truly in the eye of the beholder, isn't it? I don't think I'd want that
one in my church. LOL!

Ten Megaton Solution
Friday April 19, 2002 at 16:46

"That isn't in the Bible! That is a religion made by man." I wasn't equipped to answer them
back, but now I think I could meet that challenge.

I'll help ya out. Tell 'em that all religions are made by man, even the one they think isn't a
religion.

Covers all irrational arguments neatly, concisely, and accurately.

Pac1
In Response To Ron
Friday April 19, 2002 at 16:45

Oh, and imho, the look in Mary’s eyes portrayed a look of both dominance and satisfaction in
feeding this Shepard. While there, I discussed this picture with a few other people. They were
perplexed to say the least.

dori
In Response To Murray
Friday April 19, 2002 at 16:25

You know, I'll bet if we tried we could probably find a lot of scripture that blends both points
of view. When I first came here and was questioned about some of the practices of Catholics
and I tried to answer the questions from my limited knowledge, most of the time the response
was, "That isn't in the Bible! That is a religion made by man." I wasn't equipped to answer
them back, but now I think I could meet that challenge. At least I can defend that charge a little
better.

Pac1
In Response To Ron
Friday April 19, 2002 at 16:23

2. dori Friday April 5, 2002 at 0:10 says, “Another possibility might be the shepherd may
represent "every man" and the Virgin Mary figure might be the church.”

Dori, I doubt the shepherd represented "every man", because he had a halo over his head and
Jesus is usually represented in that way. Isn't HE ?

Ron, what do you think the picture in conveying? And why in your mind would it be that Mary
represents the Catholic Church, as dori thinks is a possibility?

Again, IMHO, the picture insinuates that Mary has preeminence over Christ.

Pac1
In Response To Ron
Friday April 19, 2002 at 16:23

1. Ron as you know there are many things, concerning Catholicism, that I disagree with, which
are relevant to Salvation.

Did you see this post?

I went to one of the California Missions in Calif.
Hanging on one of the walls was a large picture of the Virgin Mary floating on the clouds. Her
left breast was exposed and she was squirting breast milk downward to a knelling man, a
Shepard, with a Shepard’s staff, who was also floating in the clouds. He had his mouth open
and was drinking this supposed “milk" of heaven. He also had a “halo” over his head. I
personally believe this Shepard represented Jesus. There was no inscriptions explaining the
meaning of the picture.

IMHO, the picture insinuates that Mary has preeminence over Christ.. ~continued ~

dori
In Response To Ctaj
Friday April 19, 2002 at 16:19

LOL! Yeah, I'm the big disrupter here... hee hee

I don't suppose your disdain for the place has anything to do with the fact you won't be
allowed to go there and commandeer the place, does it? *-)

Murray
In Response To dori
Friday April 19, 2002 at 15:36

Yes, it is wonderful that we finally found a Scripture which, taken and understood as a whole,
unites us rather than puts us in different camps. I look forward to building upon this with you as
we interact going forward.

`Ctaj
In Response To dori
Friday April 19, 2002 at 15:35

As he clearly defines the purpose of his forum, i.e., "This forum is for those who love the One,
Holy and Catholic Church and wish to defend Her from slander and abuse," I won't be
intruding on the closed service. And I suspect that while you're there, the "petty fighting that
erupts from time to time" here will be considerably diminished.

dori
In Response To Storm is a brewing...
Friday April 19, 2002 at 15:18

...back in awhile.

dori
In Response To Connie
Friday April 19, 2002 at 15:17

When you read at the True Church site, you have to click on the previous thread and next
thread links to see all of the topics. I don't like that setup as well, but Ron may change it to an
easier format and pick the one that allows us to scroll similarly to here. I think there are a lot of
ways to set it up.

dori
In Response To Murray
Friday April 19, 2002 at 15:07

Yes, I can agree both of our viewpoints are represented in that scripture.

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]
[ Contact Forum Admin ]

Forum timezone: GMT-8
VF Version: 3.00b, ConfDB:
Before posting please read our privacy policy.
VoyForums(tm) is a Free Service from Voyager Info-Systems.
Copyright © 1998-2019 Voyager Info-Systems. All Rights Reserved.