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Date Posted: 15:59:59 04/19/02 Fri
Author: stored
Subject: R1

Religion I


The Philosopher's Corner, (and its varied forums) is for those wishing to debate ideas in an
environment relatively free of personal attacks. This does NOT mean that ideas are not to be
challenged and/or heavily debated. Bringing arguments from another forum to this forum or any
other PC forum totally distorts the original message made, gives a biased slant and is
inappropriate. Standing firm and making one's case on its own merits is the intelligent choice.
Attacking and/or challenging an opinion is fair game.. Attacking someone personally is not.
--Susan

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MESSAGES IN THIS FORUM ARE PRESENTED AS NEWEST TO OLDEST.

Ten Megaton Solution
Friday April 19, 2002 at 14:55

Professor Glueck has written, "It is worth emphasizing that in all this work no
archaeological discovery has ever controverted a single, properly understood biblical
statement."

What, did the version of the Bible he had leave out the Flood? That never happened, and
archeological evidence shows that quite convincingly.

`Ctaj
In Response To Connie
Friday April 19, 2002 at 14:55

I've never questioned the existence of Jerusalem, nor of King David or Solomon. Jerusalem,
as I recall, was where Josiah reigned after someone brought him the long lost (1,000+ years)
Mosaic Laws, which he used as an excuse to kill off all of his rivals. His reign, and jewish life
under the law of Moses, lasted about a dozen years before the several tribes scattered across
the hinterlands.

I don't see that any of this archeological evidence proves anything supernatural. Nor does
anything else in Jeffrey's book The Signature of God, in which I made an ill-advised
investment.

dori
In Response To Connie and Murray
Friday April 19, 2002 at 14:52

Connie: It won't matter what disguise anyone uses if they don't know what the password is,
they can only read there. That's the beauty of the password system. I think Ron would
welcome people like you and Gerry to come to the True Church room. He doesn't mind
dissent and he rarely gets upset even when people are rude. I think his aim is to have a place
where Catholics can refute much of the anti-Catholic hatred so prevalent in society. What
better way than an informal place to chat where everyone agrees to be civil, even when not
agreeing. I'm sure he welcomes people of all faiths. I think that could be done here a lot more if
all the hogwashes and guffaws were dispensed with. *-)

Murray: I agree!!!

Ten Megaton Solution
In Response To Connie
Friday April 19, 2002 at 14:51

"Can we Trust the Bible"?...

Yesterday I posted that the salinity of the combined flood water and oceans would be about
8000 ppm chloride, far too high for fresh water fish. Yet we have fish, but the Bible doesn't
record an aquarium.

No. We cannot trust the Bible without independent empirical fact, like a door lintel with
David's name on it to prove he existed. (Actually, I never had any doubt that he existed, but
some apparently did.)

Ten Megaton Solution
In Response To Connie
Friday April 19, 2002 at 14:48

I've never disputed that portions of the Bible are historically accurate. I reject the assumption
that it it entirely accurate.

There is adequate historical evidence to prove that George Washington existed. There is no
proof that he chopped down a cherry tree. Myths grow up around leading figures as other
people attempt to use the celebrity to fit their own purposes.

The man that developed blood typing and thus made transfusions reliable is claimed by some
to have bled to death because a whites only hospital would not admit him. That tale is false, yet
it is still repeated by the race baiters.

`Ctaj
In Response To Connie
Friday April 19, 2002 at 14:32

From Grant Jeffries' link:

One of the greatest of these pioneer archeologists is the Jewish scholar Dr. Nelson
Glueck, considered by many to be the greatest Jewish archeologist in history.

If the acheological evidence is so convincing, why is this man still jewish?

Connie
In Response To Ctaj/TMS
Friday April 19, 2002 at 14:27

More archeological evidence

Thought you'd enjoy reading about ossified brains.

Connie
In Response To Ctaj/TMS
Friday April 19, 2002 at 14:24

Archeology of Biblical sites

Connie
In Response To Ctaj
Friday April 19, 2002 at 14:21

Archeological Discoveries

The attitudes behind these attacks on biblical accuracy and authority were those of complete
rejection of God's inspiration of the Scriptures. In addition, many critics approach the Bible
with an attitude of outright denial of supernatural events, such as miracles, and biblical
prophecy. To these unbelieving critics, the presence of a miracle or prophecy in a
biblical text was absolute proof that it was not genuine. Critics rejected the possibility of
inspiration, miracles, and prophecy before they began their examination of the evidence.

Connie
In Response To Ctaj
Friday April 19, 2002 at 14:14

The historical evidence for the Bible

Archeology and historical documents can never prove that the Bible is inspired. Rather, the
confirmation of the statements of the Bible through archeological and historical investigations
provides us with powerful evidence of the historical truthfulness of the Word of God and
indicates that its statements were accurately transmitted over thousands of years.

`Ctaj
In Response To GerryB
Friday April 19, 2002 at 14:10

If you do you are only teaching half of the message.

The other half being the hocus pocus concocted by the disciples.

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