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Date Posted: 06:47:56 04/22/02 Mon
Author: stored
Subject: R1

Religion I


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MESSAGES IN THIS FORUM ARE PRESENTED AS NEWEST TO OLDEST.

GerryB.
In Response To Jeanie
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 23:01

When Christ comes back to rule and rein for a millennium after the end of the tribulation he will
bring all of us back with him.

GerryB.
In Response To Sunny
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 22:58

OK. You tell me what this passage is all about then. Prove that it does not describe the
rapture or snatching away of the saints. "16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven
with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ
shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in
the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17(KJV).

*Coinkydink
In Response To Sim
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 22:27

Wait a minute...you said, "WHO gets to be one of the RULERS"??, Yep "ME"."
Says who? ... and I thought you were leaving on the first Rapture train out. This stuff was
always confusing, so I skipped that class and went to the park... ;)

Sunny
In Response To Sim~
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 22:20

As the Great Trib unfolds and I do mean obviously so, you'll still be here, & I'll still be here,
posting with ya. (G) You'll see...no comfy catchign away in the air to NOT suffer at all.
Nope...dream on, it ain't gonna happen. After some suffering, we'll be going home.
huggz...back to the laundry room

Sim 2
In Response To Sunny
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 22:10

Better read your bible again, there are "TWO" reaping, one by Jesus, (rapture) and one by the
"angels reapers", and both are "Opposite" of each other.

Jesus reaps the "righteous" going up, while the angels reaper reap the "wicked, going down.

Rev 14;14 to end spells out the "sequence".

Sunny
In Response To hit & run posting....
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 22:02

But relax, I'll be back. (G)

Sunny
In Response To Gerry~
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 22:01

Hey sweetie! get over WHAt? The possibility that just as those that walked & talked with
Jesus, we just might have to SUFFER a bit, out of our comfort zones? (G) I think you need to
get over it, seriously, & get PREPARED. Bible speaks of the tares (bad folks) being taken
OUT OF & away, while the wheat is LEFT & bible speaks of the good inheriting the earth,
etc. Then when bible says 2 will be walking in a field, etc & 1 disppear, thumpers assume it
must be the GOOD(wheat) that disappear. Hmmm...put all the scriptures together & what you
see is the probability that the wicked will disappear, & the wheat are what Jesus will gather,
once, not twice. Instead of telling me to get over something, why dontcha post thoughts of
substance? (G) huggz~

dori
In Response To Stephen
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 21:37

I also read that long piece at your site. Did you write it? It was very good. A lot of truth in it.

dori
In Response To Stephen
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 21:33

Are you having fun, hon? LOL! Did you go read the stuff at Anti-Venom? Remember, it is not
the Catholic one. Chosen One is a hoot. Seems a lot like you in his style. *-)

Stephen James
In Response To Sim
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 21:32

"Do you really think that for a short "lifetime" doing whatever you chose is worth spending
"eternity" being tormented, day and night, without rest in Hell???"

I gave up being afraid of the boogerman when I was 8...seems some people think they gotta
check under the bed every night until their 88.

I know the truth...I just posted it below. Now that you know it as well, I hope this ignorance of
yours concerning these worthless scare tactics will cease.

Stephen James
In Response To Absolute Truth
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 21:27

They will never know the truth...the truth is that your spiritual soul can fly right on by Heaven
and you can give the BibleGod the finger as you zip by. If he yells to you as you go by that he
is gonna send you to Hell...just stop, turn around and say "ok, do it then, send me to Hell". The
BibleGod will say "Don't make me do it, get in here now an we'll forget the whole thing" and
you say "No, send me to Hell, do it now." The BibleGod can only threaten, that's it, so how
long you play the game is up to you, he can't send anyone to hell...I suggest ya give him 5
minutes, flip him the finger again and move on to check out what the other Spiritual
Amusements Parks have to offer.

Stephen James
In Response To Absolute Truth
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 21:26

Anyway, the whole lot of them are wimps when it comes to controlling spiritual souls, they just
can't do it. Oh they can move mountains, cause floods, give heart attacks, they can do tons of
physical damage...but once that soul is separated from the body, the Gods have no influence in
our decisions, they have no power over free souls...unless power over a souls mind had been
well established in life.

If the BibleGod scares someone good enough in their physical life, that person, upon death,
won't even see the lights of Valhalla across from Heaven, or, if he does, he will think it to be
Hell and go straight through the gates of Heaven, just as he was preconditioned to do by the
BibleGod when he lived...cont.

Stephen James
In Response To Absolute Truth
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 21:25

The BibleGod does exist...but he is only one of thousands of "Gods". And like the others he
took time to come here and scare the crap outta us all and attempt to outdo the other Gods
who came before...and like all the others, he finally got bored and quit bothering us, moving on
to more pressing Godly concerns.

Each God has his own Spiritual Amusement Park, BibleGod has Heaven, Odin has Valhalla,
etc..etc..and their hope is to entice as many spiritual customers as possible, the Gods are
scavengers, they feed off of Spiritual Energies...yeah, that sounds good...cont..

Sim 2
In Response To Stephen
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 21:07

If you live to be a hundred, then the first thousand year, (while I'm ruling the earth), you get to
"burn", that's 10 to 1 for starter, but it continues for "eternity".

Do you really think that for a short "lifetime" doing whatever you chose is worth spending
"eternity" being tormented, day and night, without rest in Hell???

Do you understand why God called people who would made that "TRADE", "fools"???

Stephen James
In Response To Sim
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 20:53

"Ya'll may not like the idea of the world being Ruled under the "laws of God", but it's going to
be "ANYWAY", and guess WHO gets to be one of the RULERS"??, Yep "ME"."

*Yawn* And in the meantime while we wait for enforcement of these "God Laws" I believe I
shall burn some more bibles, melt a few thousand crucifixes into scrap metal and trash the
name of Jesus where ever I go.

What a weak God and what equally weak humans he chooses to be his "rulers"...can't do a
dang thing to stop me while I am alive, and I am betting it will be the same in death...weak
slave souls and strong free souls...which is Sim gonna be?

Sim 2
In Response To Ya'll
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 20:38

Ya'll may not like the idea of the world being Ruled under the "laws of God", but it's going to
be "ANYWAY", and guess WHO gets to be one of the RULERS"??, Yep "ME".

Oh, did I tell you, those who don't like to live under God's law, don't have too, Nope, you
sure don't, God has the angel reapers gather all those together and "cast into the fire".

I sure you won't like that place either, but let's face it, ya'll wouldn't be happy in Heaven, ya'll
would be "Complaining" about something regardless of where you were.

But at least you don't have to live under God's law, and even that won't make ya happy??

~Veracity~
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 19:58

The Real Eve, 9 p.m. EDT, Discovery Channel.

dori
In Response To Ctaj
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 19:31

Well, I guess they wanted to do it their own way, eh? That's usually why churches start up. It
is a bit sad isn't it when we get so caught up in the trappings that we get away from just the
simple words Christ spoke to us. Of course, He only speaks to the demented and retarded, I
know. *-)

`Ctaj
In Response To dori
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 19:10

There is no fighting in individual churches of any denomination, unless they have to
replace the minister or someone got elected to the council they didn't like.

Really? How do you reckon it got from The (Catholic) Church, to the Catholic and the
Protestant Churches, to the 30,000 denominations we see today? Didn't like the songs the
choir picked?

dori
In Response To Stephen
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 14:00

Check out Anti-Venom. Chosen one did a wonderful spoof on there that I think you'll enjoy. I
know I did!

dori
In Response To Stephen
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 13:55

You're looking at the big picture. There is no fighting in individual churches of any
denomination, unless they have to replace the minister or someone got elected to the council
they didn't like. Petty stuff. The only fighting I see about religion is here. Most people in real life
are too polite to tell each other their church stinks. *-)

Stephen James
In Response To Connie
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 13:51

"Scoffers have been trying to destroy it for over 2000 years and the church still stands"

Yes, but look at how it is standing, 30,000 differing denominations have effectively crippled the
religion with all the in-fighting.

Scoffers barely even scratch the church in trying to destroy it...it is Christians themselves who
have taken a sledge hammer to it. IMO

dori
In Response To Connie
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 13:29

Better say Instant Message is turned on, hon. This is a public forum, you know and there may
be a pervert out there just waiting in the wings... giggle

Connie
In Response To Dori
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 13:25

IM turned on.

dori
In Response To Connie
Sunday April 21, 2002 at 13:08

YEs I did notice and was a bit worried. Wanta come on IM for a few minutes? Or ICQ?

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