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Date Posted: 00:21:38 12/02/21 Thu
Author: Bud
Author Host/IP: 104.3.112.146
Subject: Re: 49 unidentified historical helmet designs
In reply to: 's message, "Re: 49 unidentified historical helmet designs" on 13:10:53 12/01/21 Wed

>Here is an updated list. Pardon me if some of these
>have been mentioned already. I made an Excel
>Spreadsheet to assist. Onward!
>
>1 - Rhodes College Lynx
>
>2 - Baldwin-Wallace Yellow Jackets
>
>3 - ?
>
>4 - I think this might be Tuskegee Institute? Maybe
>Bethune Cookman?
>
>5 - Fairleigh Dickinson
>
>6 - someone else mentioned Caroll College though now
>it could be Concordia. This was jsut mentioned earlier
>today
>
>7 - someone else mentioned Hamline though their
>helmets were white in their 1976 YB. Could it be
>Morningside?
>
>8 - Quantico Marines? If you look at Muskateer
>schedule for 1970 it would make sense s all the other
>opponents do not
>
>9 - Moravian? Someone else mentioned Albright but
>Widener did not play them in 1973
>
>10 - California Lutheran University aka California
>Lutheran College
>
>11 - Not sure. Perhaps Mercyhurst or Alfred
>
>12 - Valaparasio
>
>13 - I think this is a minor league team called the
>Seattle Cavaliers. That logo is probably a feather?
>
>14 - St. Francis University
>
>15 - Minnesota State University, Mankato ak Mankato
>State College Indians
>
>16 - Not sure. Maybe Brooklyn College, New Jersey City
>University, Fairleigh Dickinson University or New York
>City College of Technology
>
>17 - Pretty sure it is the Crusaders (back then) of
>Wheaton
>
>18 - Rutgers
>
>19 - Maine Maritime. Very cool logo of US Flag
>variation with "76"
>
>20 - Elmhurst University
>
>21 - Ricks Vikings ak Brigham Young University–Idaho
>
>22 - University of Wisconsin-Whitewater. Agree on this
>logo. Very cool!
>
>23 - someone else mentioned Merchant Marine
>
>24 - Upper Iowa Peacocks
>
>25 - I think this is the Emory and Henry Wasps
>
>26 - Not sure. Still need to research
>
>27 - Not sure. Still need to research
>
>28 - Not sure. Still need to research
>
>29 - UMass-Dartmouth ak SMU (Southeastern
>Massachusetts University)
>
>30 - Rocky Mountain College
>
>31 - Hampden Sydney
>
>32 - Dickinson College Red Devils
>
>33 - Not sure. Still need to research. This one is
>tough!
>
>34 - Northern Arizona
>
>35 - Not sure. Still need to research. It was
>mentioned to be Rocky Mountain College but it may not
>be
>
>36 - This is actually North Dakota State. The Bison
>logo is ripped up and the photo is backwards!
>
>37 - Fitchburg State
>
>38 - Bud mentioned that this was Rhodes College aka
>Southwestern at Memphis (SAM)
>
>39 - Not sure. Still need to research
>
>40 - Northeastern Illinois University
>
>41 - Not sure. Still need to research. Might be La
>Verne
>
>42 - Edinboro
>
>43 - Rhodes College. Damn the Lynx are popular!
>
>44 - Utah State University Eastern aka College of
>Eastern Utah
>
>45 - Again I think this might be the Seattle Cavaliers
>(minor league)
>
>46 - Not sure. Still need to research
>
>47 - West Virginia State Yellow Jackets
>
>48 - Ithaca College Bombers
>
>49 - Truman State aka Northeast Missouri State College

#23: Colgate did not play any teams that had any kind of M in their name or nickname in 1966 (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Holy Cross, BU, Princeton, Lehigh, Lafayette, Rutgers, Bucknell), and that was true for a number of years in either direction. Charles, are you sure that was from a Colgate game?

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[> [> [> #23 -- charles arey, 21:14:35 12/02/21 Thu (173.187.51.210)

>#23: Colgate did not play any teams that had any kind of M in their name or nickname in 1966 (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Holy Cross, BU, Princeton, Lehigh, Lafayette, Rutgers, Bucknell), and that was true for a number of years in either direction. Charles, are you sure that was from a Colgate game?

Sorry, it's entirely possible that I botched the documentation somewhere along the way (I've been accumulating these for several years). I might have written "Colgate" when I meant to say "Clarion" or "Cortland" or something. I vaguely remember suspecting that this might be one of the "M" Pennsylvania teams (Millersville, Mansfield, Moravian, etc).

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[> [> [> [> Re: #23 -- No name, 00:40:58 12/03/21 Fri (75.166.159.103)

Charles,I was able to check out Clarion's and Cortland's 1966 schedules. Unfortunately,no "M" teams on the schedule. Also, that photo does not belong to either 1966 Millersville or 1966 Mansfield,. Not sure about Moravian. Still searching...

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: #23 -- charles arey, 02:49:01 12/03/21 Fri (173.187.51.210)

>Charles,I was able to check out Clarion's and
>Cortland's 1966 schedules. Unfortunately,no "M" teams
>on the schedule. Also, that photo does not belong to
>either 1966 Millersville or 1966 Mansfield,. Not sure
>about Moravian. Still searching...

Fortunately i didn’t screw up the information - the photograph appears on page 155 of Colgate’s 1967 yearbook:


https://digitalcollections.colgate.edu/object/studentyearbooks9987#page/1/mode/2up

Maybe that’s not actually an “M” on the side? Or maybe one player wore an “M” for some unknown reason?

I rarely pay any attention to football uniforms, but do sometimes to try to identify an opposing team. There are some stripes on the sleeve of the player in question which could prove diagnostic.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: #23 -- Bud, 13:16:03 12/03/21 Fri (104.3.112.146)

>>Charles,I was able to check out Clarion's and
>>Cortland's 1966 schedules. Unfortunately,no "M" teams
>>on the schedule. Also, that photo does not belong to
>>either 1966 Millersville or 1966 Mansfield,. Not sure
>>about Moravian. Still searching...
>
>Fortunately i didn’t screw up the information - the
>photograph appears on page 155 of Colgate’s 1967
>yearbook:
>
>
>https://digitalcollections.colgate.edu/object/studentye
>arbooks9987#page/1/mode/2up
>
>Maybe that’s not actually an “M” on the side? Or
>maybe one player wore an “M” for some unknown
>reason?
>
>I rarely pay any attention to football uniforms, but
>do sometimes to try to identify an opposing team.
>There are some stripes on the sleeve of the player in
>question which could prove diagnostic.

My guess is that it was a preseason scrimmage game. The white jersey has no stripes, which we assume the road jersey would have been the same design as the home (dark) jersey (back in those days), and there are no fans in the stands. And in preseason scrimmages, the teams don't necessarily wear their regular-season jerseys, anyway.

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