| Subject: Re: Joseph Smith's Vision |
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cezoram
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Date Posted: 20:31:11 12/08/01 Sat
In reply to:
Shelby
's message, "Re: Joseph Smith's Vision" on 20:36:04 12/07/01 Fri
>>I apologize if this question has been asked of you a
>>lot. I know how frustrating it is to be asked to sames
>>questions over and over again.
>>But I had been wondering about this. And thought this
>>might be the best place to ask. My question is about
>>the trinity and Joseph's vision. Now please correct me
>>if i'm wrong, cos I don't know much about this, but my
>>understanding of his vision, was that he saw God and
>>Jesus Christ. As two seperate personages. Now I was
>>told that you believe in the trinity. But wouldn't,
>>what joseph saw, contridict with the trinity theory?
>>Again I apologize if you've been asked this a lot. I
>>just haven't found anyone to give me a straight
>answer.
>
>
> Thanks for your question. When Joseph Smith went
>into the grove of trees to pray, He saw God the Father
>and God the Son (Jesus Christ) as two separate beings
>which they are I also believe that the Holy Ghost was
>present as the third member of the Godhead (otherwise
>Joseph wouldn't have been able to have seen the Father
>and the Son and abided their presence. You must
>understand that the doctrine of the Trinity which is
>there is one God but three manifestations,in the
>Persons of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost was
>a teaching of the Apostacy. The Restored Church of
>Jesus Christ has alway believed in the separation of
>the Godhead since Joseph walked out of the grove in
>the spring of 1820.
>
>
>Shelby
Shelby,
I must disagree with you. The first written version of the First Vision account, was that which Joseph Smith actually wrote. He indicates that he saw only one being. I do not know when or why a second being was added to this First Vision account in subsequent versions. In the version that is in Joseph's handwriting (the only one in his handwriting), he says that he saw the Lord. This concept agrees with scripture. When Jesus was baptized, the people did not see God also. They just saw Jesus. They did hear God's voice though. On the mount, when Jesus was transfigured, Peter James, and John did not see God, also. They just saw Jesus. Yet, they heard God's voice. The Brother of Jared, when the veil was removed, saw only one being, and that being said that He was Jesus Christ, the Father and the Son. Abinadi said that Jesus is the Father and the Son -- the Father because He was conceived by the power of God and the Son because of the flesh.
I feel that the "Trinity" concept is totally alien to the scriptures. The Jews knew that there is only one God. The scriptures teach that there is only one God.
I believe the concept of God being three separate beings is unscriptural. Three separate beings equal three gods. I feel that if there are three gods, then they must either make their decisions by majority rule or common consent.
I honestly do not see any evidence for there being more than just one God.
Respectfully submitted,
Cezoram
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